Raffles

Lots more going on too, yes. For example, cabin crew will now be checking passports at the aircraft door, allowing BA to remove one person from the gate.

L1705

what’s your source?

Raffles

Cabin crew. I believe it was in one of the ops Powerpoint presentations given the other week.

L1705

Interesting! It didn’t feature in either of the cabin crew ones, but ops would be more likely.

Only benefit I would see to that is it keeps crew numbers up onboard for inflight services. I wouldn’t mind having to check boarding cards (we do anyway at the door) if it means not reducing crew compliments

subject2load

Yes this was the subject of some lively discussion after it was first raised (by an insider, IIRC) a while back. I seem to think it was on a different thread, perhaps even before the plans for reduced headcount had been officially announced.

Will100

Are we really expecting people to work FT for less than £26k? Am I on a different planet? Surely you cannot live in London on that.

KARFA

Many people both within BA and in the wider work force already do.

subject2load

You might be on a different planet yourself. Many, many, workers - in all manner of sectors - already do exactly that.

13901

I see it more as a boutade as a real plan. Or a plan that somebody with little, if any, experience in the airline operation has actually taken up. I've worked in the terminals and I've seen situations such as people with the wrong passports arriving at the gate, people without green cards, people without ESTA/ETA/correct Visas. Offloading them at the A/C door will cost a lot more in punctuality, and EC261 compensation, than doing it earlier at the gate. Plus the cost (in fines) for letting people on with the wrong documentation. Countries fine Airlines tens of thousands of dollars per passengers (also, on US flights G4S must be present to carry out passport checks unless it's a biometric).

What I was referring to is different: I understand that the whole Flight Management Unit (aka closeout), allocation of ground staff/GSE drivers and even Centralised Load Control might be outsourced. We often speak about cabin crew but I'd like to pause a little bit on these guys: these are teams that had to go through a re-org, with partial outsourcing and the reapply-for-your-job charade, last year. At the end of a process that lasted more than a year. To throw them back into the meat grinder again is not only heartless, it's savage. For what? Those remaining from FMU and CLC number in less than 100 if I'm not mistaken. And what they do is highly technical. Cock it up and the consequences on the day-to-day operation are dire.

flygirl68

Hi sorry for the delayed reply. It’s not really about hours. My 75% contract gives me 7 days out of every 28 days in which BA cannot roster me a trip. Our hours per week can vary hugely.

krispy84

Do you live in London? Or do you eat, drink, socialise in London?

The lovely man at the cloakroom in Claridges will probably be on less than 26k. The KPs at The Wolseley, Sabor, Barrafina, Palomar, Bao etc will be on less than that.

Id like to know what world you inhabit where everyone earns more than 26k a year?

subject2load

An entirely different planet (apparently) .

rockflyertalk

Whichever world he or she inhabits, I’d like to welcome them to the (less than) <26K world and yes from first hand experience it definitely does exist. It’s also full of wonderful, talented, skilful yet massively and mostly under appreciated people. These people keep the world ticking, BA crew are a fine example of that.

Will100

Appreciate my post may not have been the best in hindsight but have I touched a nerve?

Will100

My point was that this shouldn’t be the case.

Of course, I know this is the case and it is also very difficult to live in London on that level of pay.