Jan 26, 2020, 5:00 am
Last edit by: Globaliser
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BA have cancelled all flights to PKX (Beijing/Peking) and PVG (Shanghai Pu Dong) "until 19 April 2020".
BA frequency to HKG has been reduced with effect from 13 February 2020 - see below for further details. From HKG, Cathay is running a heavily reduced schedule to mainland destinations until the end of March.
If you are due to fly to PKX, PVG and your flight is cancelled then you have refund, re-route and rebook options. BA can rebook on to several other airlines.
If you are due to fly to Hong Kong until 1st April you have refund and rebook options.
If you are transiting into mainland China you are also covered as above.
If you are transiting internationally (e.g. LHR-HKG-SYD) you are not able to move your flights, unless they are cancelled anyway.
The latest ba.com update was on 21 February 2020 at 1510.
More information on the advice of Her Majesty's Government about travel and health is on the Foreign and Commonwealth Office website.
https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/china
For the Special Administration Regions of Hong Kong and Macao:
https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/hong-kong
https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/macao
Summary from IATA of all travel restrictions due to Coronavirus as added to TIMATIC https://www.iatatravelcentre.com/int...1580226297.htm
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HKG frequency reductions (as of 1330 on 21 February 2020, all dates inclusive).
LHR-HKG
From Thu 13.02.2020 to Mon 01.06.2020: BA31 cancelled. BA27 operates (380).
Exceptions:-
HKG-LHR
From Fri 14.02.2020 to Tue 02.06.2020: BA32 cancelled. BA28 operates (380).
Exceptions:-
Note: Schedule changes take effect on Sun 29.03.2020 in both directions.
BA have cancelled all flights to PKX (Beijing/Peking) and PVG (Shanghai Pu Dong) "until 19 April 2020".
BA frequency to HKG has been reduced with effect from 13 February 2020 - see below for further details. From HKG, Cathay is running a heavily reduced schedule to mainland destinations until the end of March.
If you are due to fly to PKX, PVG and your flight is cancelled then you have refund, re-route and rebook options. BA can rebook on to several other airlines.
If you are due to fly to Hong Kong until 1st April you have refund and rebook options.
If you are transiting into mainland China you are also covered as above.
If you are transiting internationally (e.g. LHR-HKG-SYD) you are not able to move your flights, unless they are cancelled anyway.
The latest ba.com update was on 21 February 2020 at 1510.
More information on the advice of Her Majesty's Government about travel and health is on the Foreign and Commonwealth Office website.
https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/china
For the Special Administration Regions of Hong Kong and Macao:
https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/hong-kong
https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/macao
Summary from IATA of all travel restrictions due to Coronavirus as added to TIMATIC https://www.iatatravelcentre.com/int...1580226297.htm
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HKG frequency reductions (as of 1330 on 21 February 2020, all dates inclusive).
LHR-HKG
From Thu 13.02.2020 to Mon 01.06.2020: BA31 cancelled. BA27 operates (380).
Exceptions:-
- Tue 18.02.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (777).
- Tue 10.03.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (777).
- Mon 27.04.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
- Tue 28.04.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
- Wed 29.04.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
- Thu 30.04.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
- Mon 11.05.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
- Tue 12.05.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
- Mon 18.05.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
- Tue 19.05.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
- Sun 24.05.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
- Mon 25.05.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
- Tue 26.05.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
- Mon 01.06.2020: BA31 cancelled. BA27 operates (777).
HKG-LHR
From Fri 14.02.2020 to Tue 02.06.2020: BA32 cancelled. BA28 operates (380).
Exceptions:-
- Wed 19.02.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (777).
- Wed 11.03.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (777).
- Sun 29.03.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
- Tue 28.04.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
- Wed 29.04.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
- Thu 30.04.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
- Fri 01.05.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
- Tue 12.05.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
- Wed 13.05.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
- Tue 19.05.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
- Wed 20.05.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
- Mon 25.05.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
- Tue 26.05.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
- Wed 27.05.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
- Tue 02.06.2020: BA32 cancelled. BA28 operates (777).
Note: Schedule changes take effect on Sun 29.03.2020 in both directions.
*Coronavirus : BA Suspends all flts to mainland China* +discussion on long haul flts
Jan 21, 2020, 1:09 pm
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Jan 21, 2020, 2:42 pm
#32
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I‘m in Beijing right now, due to travel back to Europe on BA from PKX on Friday.
I just received a travel advisory note from our internal travel risk department with the usual obvious things like wash your hands, stay away from markets & livestock, avoid obviously sick people etc. it also advises that this could cause delays, especially right now during the Chinese New Year travels.
No message at all from BA.
Personally I’m not to concerned at this stage. It is true that they’ve now demonstrated cases of human to human transmission, but the odds for me of catching it are pretty low outside of Wuhan.
That said we are probably still early in the developments.
I just received a travel advisory note from our internal travel risk department with the usual obvious things like wash your hands, stay away from markets & livestock, avoid obviously sick people etc. it also advises that this could cause delays, especially right now during the Chinese New Year travels.
No message at all from BA.
Personally I’m not to concerned at this stage. It is true that they’ve now demonstrated cases of human to human transmission, but the odds for me of catching it are pretty low outside of Wuhan.
That said we are probably still early in the developments.
Jan 21, 2020, 2:51 pm
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I‘m in Beijing right now, due to travel back to Europe on BA from PKX on Friday.
I just received a travel advisory note from our internal travel risk department with the usual obvious things like wash your hands, stay away from markets & livestock, avoid obviously sick people etc. it also advises that this could cause delays, especially right now during the Chinese New Year travels.
No message at all from BA.
Personally I’m not to concerned at this stage. It is true that they’ve now demonstrated cases of human to human transmission, but the odds for me of catching it are pretty low outside of Wuhan.
That said we are probably still early in the developments.
I just received a travel advisory note from our internal travel risk department with the usual obvious things like wash your hands, stay away from markets & livestock, avoid obviously sick people etc. it also advises that this could cause delays, especially right now during the Chinese New Year travels.
No message at all from BA.
Personally I’m not to concerned at this stage. It is true that they’ve now demonstrated cases of human to human transmission, but the odds for me of catching it are pretty low outside of Wuhan.
That said we are probably still early in the developments.
Jan 21, 2020, 3:57 pm
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Jan 21, 2020, 4:15 pm
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Also heading out there in a just over two weeks. Looks like we may be there around the same time. Largely unconcerned at the moment, but will continue to monitor the situation.
Jan 22, 2020, 5:46 am
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Have made a thread on the UK forum pleading for help about how to accomplish this (and why I’m asking). Would really appreciate advice!
Where to buy (and which exactly) N95 masks in the UK (need soon!)
Jan 22, 2020, 8:03 am
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Basic surgical masks are good for infected people as it stops the droplets from coughing. Whether they are truly effective to stop "receiving" the virus is a matter of debate. N95 are indeed more secure. And certainly never reuse a disposable mask.
Jan 22, 2020, 8:08 am
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This might be a dumb question, but why not go with the N100s? If N95 is good, wouldn't 100 be better?
Jan 22, 2020, 8:20 am
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News and media creating panic for no reason, only couple of deaths and no demographic data released on these accept one man was 89... when your 89 most respiratory infections have good chance to finish you off especially if you have comorbidities which is likely..
People die from influenza every year which has caused a number of pandemics, yet we don’t panic every winter over that...
People die from influenza every year which has caused a number of pandemics, yet we don’t panic every winter over that...
Jan 22, 2020, 8:43 am
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I go to HK in a couple of weeks and tagged a trip to PEK. Flying BA so will keep tabs on this thread.
If it gets any worse I will just stick to HK.
If it gets any worse I will just stick to HK.
Jan 22, 2020, 8:48 am
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This is going OT for this particular thread....
In response to 13901, I don't have the UK influenza incidence figures to hand, but I think in the US, it's estimated that there are 10-40M cases of 'flu/ year, resulting in 10-50k deaths annually. That would put a case-fatality ratio of ~1/1000. By contrast, 2019-nCoV has an estimated case-fatality of 2+%, i.e. 1/50, which makes it 20-times 'more lethal' than 'flu....
That's why there's a fuss....
tb
In response to 13901, I don't have the UK influenza incidence figures to hand, but I think in the US, it's estimated that there are 10-40M cases of 'flu/ year, resulting in 10-50k deaths annually. That would put a case-fatality ratio of ~1/1000. By contrast, 2019-nCoV has an estimated case-fatality of 2+%, i.e. 1/50, which makes it 20-times 'more lethal' than 'flu....
That's why there's a fuss....
tb
Jan 22, 2020, 8:50 am
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I don't know what officially BA was supposed to do but as a practical matter they didnt do anything in my case. I was flying ex China with a wicked flu during the height of SARS and they nicely gave me my own box of tissues.
Jan 22, 2020, 9:20 am
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This is going OT for this particular thread....
In response to 13901, I don't have the UK influenza incidence figures to hand, but I think in the US, it's estimated that there are 10-40M cases of 'flu/ year, resulting in 10-50k deaths annually. That would put a case-fatality ratio of ~1/1000. By contrast, 2019-nCoV has an estimated case-fatality of 2+%, i.e. 1/50, which makes it 20-times 'more lethal' than 'flu....
That's why there's a fuss....
tb
In response to 13901, I don't have the UK influenza incidence figures to hand, but I think in the US, it's estimated that there are 10-40M cases of 'flu/ year, resulting in 10-50k deaths annually. That would put a case-fatality ratio of ~1/1000. By contrast, 2019-nCoV has an estimated case-fatality of 2+%, i.e. 1/50, which makes it 20-times 'more lethal' than 'flu....
That's why there's a fuss....
tb
Jan 22, 2020, 9:21 am
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While I personally rhino (and I have a biology background) that this entire scare is way overrated, I ended up flying back today instead of Friday from Beijing as several of my meetings got canceled, people prefer to stay home.
Let’s see what the true mortality rate of this thing is in a couple of weeks. As said above, regular stuff like flu and pneumonia kill thousands every year, mainly weaker patients like elderly or immuno-compromised.
The only thing is that this Friday with the Chinese new year starts the bigger travel season of China with hundreds of millions traveling, which may help spreading the new virus.
But I still plan to be back in Shanghai end of February and am not too concerned about this overall.
Let’s see what the true mortality rate of this thing is in a couple of weeks. As said above, regular stuff like flu and pneumonia kill thousands every year, mainly weaker patients like elderly or immuno-compromised.
The only thing is that this Friday with the Chinese new year starts the bigger travel season of China with hundreds of millions traveling, which may help spreading the new virus.
But I still plan to be back in Shanghai end of February and am not too concerned about this overall.
Jan 22, 2020, 9:33 am
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Perhaps this thread could stick with the BA impact, if any, of this latest outbreak, rather than discuss face mask efficacy or outbreak morbidity and mortality rates. If things deteriorate, FTers will need actual information etc.