Changes to redemption prices on partner airlines eff 30 May 2019
May 30, 2019, 12:01 am
#166
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old multiplier for band 4 was 1,2,3,4 not 1,1.5,2,4 (consistently with your top table).
May 30, 2019, 1:21 am
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I don't think so. Other airlines just announce the changes with (deliberately) no notice, whereas BAEC's own rules based framework suggests that they have to give some sort of notice of changes. So they told everyone the changes were coming, which was the limit of their responsibilities, at least in their mindset. I'm sure they then thought it would be confusing (given that actually not everyone lives on Flyertalk) to give the precise details, and perhaps some of them weren't fully signed off by the relevant parties at the time of the first announcement. My speculation is that they felt they had done the right thing by the announcement they did give, and as we have seen upthread, anyone ringing BAEC to find out the changes, on a particular route, would be told the future position.
May 30, 2019, 1:42 am
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May 30, 2019, 2:12 am
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I don't think so. Other airlines just announce the changes with (deliberately) no notice, whereas BAEC's own rules based framework suggests that they have to give some sort of notice of changes. So they told everyone the changes were coming, which was the limit of their responsibilities, at least in their mindset. I'm sure they then thought it would be confusing (given that actually not everyone lives on Flyertalk) to give the precise details, and perhaps some of them weren't fully signed off by the relevant parties at the time of the first announcement. My speculation is that they felt they had done the right thing by the announcement they did give, and as we have seen upthread, anyone ringing BAEC to find out the changes, on a particular route, would be told the future position.
May 30, 2019, 2:22 am
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In my case, Band 3 Premium Economy appear to be 25,750 avios. not 27,250.
Great work, KARFA, by the way. Helps us a lot to have the new chart.
I knew the speculation but I was secretly hoping that the change was really ONLY 4 percent.
The announcement page in French, Spanish clearly stated that the increase would be ONLY 4 percent in each language. So I was confused with the expression as little as 4 percent.
Great work, KARFA, by the way. Helps us a lot to have the new chart.
I knew the speculation but I was secretly hoping that the change was really ONLY 4 percent.
The announcement page in French, Spanish clearly stated that the increase would be ONLY 4 percent in each language. So I was confused with the expression as little as 4 percent.
May 30, 2019, 2:24 am
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Make the mileage enthusiasts panic in advance, get a lot of liability off the books in that period (ie make sure that lots of "OMG I must do this before armageddon strikes!" redemptions booked), and then make minimal changes.
May 30, 2019, 5:16 am
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Thanks, amended charts now in post 161.
Fantastic, thanks BA Humbug ^
Thanks super_agori and welcome to FT!
For PE do you mean band 4 rather than band 3? On band 3 PE was 15,000, and just double checked my "go to" band 3 route of HKG-ICN and it is showing 16,500 now.
On band 4 PE was 25,000. Just double checked my "go to" band 3 route of HKG-DEL and it is showing 25,750 so you are quite right, I must have made a typo when I was doing this last night so all corrected now. Thanks.
For PE do you mean band 4 rather than band 3? On band 3 PE was 15,000, and just double checked my "go to" band 3 route of HKG-ICN and it is showing 16,500 now.
On band 4 PE was 25,000. Just double checked my "go to" band 3 route of HKG-DEL and it is showing 25,750 so you are quite right, I must have made a typo when I was doing this last night so all corrected now. Thanks.
May 30, 2019, 5:21 am
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Great work KARFA.
In an odd way, little realignments of pricing like this are actually quite a good thing as they mean large devaluations of the programme overnight are much less likely. I'm happy to pay 5% more for CX and JL redemptions if it means they aren't going to increase in price by 50% in the near future.
In an odd way, little realignments of pricing like this are actually quite a good thing as they mean large devaluations of the programme overnight are much less likely. I'm happy to pay 5% more for CX and JL redemptions if it means they aren't going to increase in price by 50% in the near future.
May 30, 2019, 5:42 am
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@ KARFA - great job on the new chart, thank you ^
@ lost_in_translation - fair comment, and in principle am inclined to agree (though not sure I would call any increases “a good thing” ! .....)
@ lost_in_translation - fair comment, and in principle am inclined to agree (though not sure I would call any increases “a good thing” ! .....)
May 30, 2019, 6:12 am
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Great work KARFA.
In an odd way, little realignments of pricing like this are actually quite a good thing as they mean large devaluations of the programme overnight are much less likely. I'm happy to pay 5% more for CX and JL redemptions if it means they aren't going to increase in price by 50% in the near future.
In an odd way, little realignments of pricing like this are actually quite a good thing as they mean large devaluations of the programme overnight are much less likely. I'm happy to pay 5% more for CX and JL redemptions if it means they aren't going to increase in price by 50% in the near future.
May 30, 2019, 6:32 am
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Great work on that table @KARFA, a lot of work no doubt (and others who added the last few some missing sections) will be referred to countless times for the future by many, many members of FT and no doubt this update will incorporated into the Main Dashboard ^
May 30, 2019, 6:40 am
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AA domestic US routes in economy under 650 miles are still 7500 miles (15000 miles for AA domestic US First/Business, whatever it is called). Not sure why there is no change yet.