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British Airways has revealed the configuration for its Airbus A350-1000 (56J 56W 219Y):

56 business class featuring all-new Club Suites
56 premium economy
219 economy
(BA maintains that no A350s will have first class)

Familiarisation flights to Madrid (starts August 6th):

10x Weekly flights.
Daily on BA464/465
3x Weekly (Thurs, Sat, Sun) on BA456/457
No end date yet.
See for more details: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...ps-thread.html
A Couple of days are NO OP due to training and other requirements.

First A350 flights have also been revealed:

02 to 06 Sep, 09 to 30 Sep, and from 08 Oct 2019 daily to Dubai (DXB) - BA107/106
from 01 Oct 2019, daily to Toronto (YYZ) - BA92/93
from 01 Dec 2019, daily to Tel Aviv (TLV) - BA163/162
from 01 Jan 2020, daily to Bangalore (BLR) - BA119/118
from 01 Mar 2020, double daily to Dubai (DXB) - BA107/106 & BA105/104

More pics and details at https://www.ausbt.com.au/british-air...ess-class-seat

Flights planned to be operated by a A350

Summer 2021 (Updated: 9th February 2021)

Austin - Daily
Buenos Aires via São Paulo - Daily
Denver - Daily
Dubai - 3 x Weekly (Tuesday to Thursday)
Las Vegas - Daily
Newark - 2 x Weekly (Monday/Sunday)
Vancouver - Daily

Winter 2021 (Updated: 9th February 2021)

Bangalore - Daily
Boston - 9 x Weekly
BA213/212 - Daily
BA215/214 - 2 x Weekly (Mon/Sun)
Chicago - 2 x Daily
Mumbai - Daily (BA139/138)
San Diego - Daily
Tel Aviv - Daily (BA163/162)
Washington - 3 x Weekly (BA293/292 Tuesday to Thursday)
Vancouver - Daily

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Jul 18, 2019, 10:54 am

#361

WVFM

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From BA trade support:
The start date for our brand new Airbus 350 operating between London (LHR) and Dubai (DXB) will be brought forward to 2nd September 2019 from 8th October.

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Jul 18, 2019, 11:03 am

#362

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WVFM

From BA trade support:
The start date for our brand new Airbus 350 operating between London (LHR) and Dubai (DXB) will be brought forward to 2nd September 2019 from 8th October.

Does this mean no A350 flights to Madrid in September?

Jul 18, 2019, 11:05 am

#363

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Originally Posted by Jameel

Does this mean no A350 flights to Madrid in September?

I don't think anyone knows. G-XWBB is due for delivery in September. Already painted in TLS.

Jul 18, 2019, 11:09 am

#364

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jameel

Does this mean no A350 flights to Madrid in September?

For most of the month, yes. Until the 2nd aircraft is delivered

Jul 18, 2019, 11:12 am

#365

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For most of the month, yes. Until the 2nd aircraft is delivered

If they even bother. After 1 month of Madrid and then most of September with DXB they may not go back to Madrid.

Jul 18, 2019, 11:18 am

#366

Jameel

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Quote:

Originally Posted by george77300

If they even bother. After 1 month of Madrid and then most of September with DXB they may not go back to Madrid.

hopefully they update flight information soon with the flights operating the A350 so any bookings can be changed. Wouldn't want to waste avios points on business class in an A321!

Jul 18, 2019, 11:20 am

#367

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Originally Posted by Jameel

hopefully they update flight information soon with the flights operating the A350 so any bookings can be changed. Wouldn't want to waste avios points on business class in an A321!

I believe flights with the A350 will be updated at T-72 for Madrid flights.

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Jul 18, 2019, 11:21 am

#368

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Quote:

Originally Posted by george77300

If they even bother. After 1 month of Madrid and then most of September with DXB they may not go back to Madrid.

Good point, I agree, they won't be going to Madrid in September.

Jul 18, 2019, 11:21 am

#369

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Quote:

Originally Posted by george77300

I don't think anyone knows. G-XWBB is due for delivery in September. Already painted in TLS.

They're telling us that MAD will continue until at least mid-Sept for crew familiarisation, but I wouldn't be surprised if these stopped earlier than planned.

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Jul 18, 2019, 11:23 am

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Originally Posted by Jameel

hopefully they update flight information soon with the flights operating the A350 so any bookings can be changed. Wouldn't want to waste avios points on business class in an A321!

In short as with the 787/A380 they were only scheduled a couple days before in case of swaps. I wouldn't expect the whole month to swap to A350 anytime soon, more likely days at a time. (EDIT: as other mentioned T-72 would be normal)

I'd see the main MAD thread for more details: BA A350-1000 training flights meet-ups thread

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Jul 18, 2019, 11:24 am

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Originally Posted by MFCC

They're telling us that MAD will continue until at least mid-Sept for crew familiarisation, but I wouldn't be surprised if these stopped earlier than planned.

But if G-XWBA is off to DXB on 2nd September it physically won't have time.

Jul 18, 2019, 11:52 am

#372

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Originally Posted by george77300

But if G-XWBA is off to DXB on 2nd September it physically won't have time.

Well, I'm curious if the following would be the strategy?

From Sept 2:

LHR MAD LHR (dep 0620 returns 1215 local times)
LHR DXB LHR (dep 1250 returns 0615 local times)*

*assumes current 777 flight times and A319/320/321 timings remain valid but may trim some time off?

Obviously that would mean they have no contingency to deal with delays but timings always have some extra time to deal with delays already so maybe this is the strategy for Sept?

Just a thought, nothing to back it up...obviously it means that the evening rotations fall away and all Sept would be morning MAD runs... but would utilise the A350 fully and then when the second frame comes in it could allow some relief of maybe doubling of MAD flights (or even earlier start to YYZ / other...

Thoughts?

Last edited by BotB; Jul 18, 2019 at 11:54 am Reason: correcting timings...

Jul 18, 2019, 11:55 am

#373

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Originally Posted by BotB

Well, I'm curious if the following would be the strategy?

From Sept 2:

LHR MAD LHR (dep 0620 returns 1215 local times)
LHR DXB LHR (dep 1215 returns 0615 local times)

Obviously that would mean they have no contingency to deal with delays but timings always have some extra time to deal with delays already so maybe this is the strategy for Sept?

Just a thought, nothing to back it up...obviously it means that the evening rotations fall away and all Sept would be morning MAD runs... but would utilise the A350 fully and then when the second frame comes in it could allow some relief of maybe doubling of MAD flights (or even earlier start to YYZ / other...

Thoughts?

The Dubai it's on is BA107/106. This would not allow adequate time to do the first morning MAD flight.

Secondly confirmed in other thread to be doing NO MAD flights in September. I think September is well and truly done. The question now is how long in August they operate.

Jul 18, 2019, 11:59 am

#374

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Presumably BA have better info than we do about the likely delivery date of G-XWBB (or indeed any info!). Say it's early September. Then BA would have the option to bring forward the start of the Toronto service from the start of October, or do some MAD flights with it - or both?

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Jul 18, 2019, 12:00 pm

#375

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Quote:

Originally Posted by george77300

But if G-XWBA is off to DXB on 2nd September it physically won't have time.

Anyone’s guess is as good as mine at the moment. We just go where they send us!