EsherFlyer

After also reading your now closed thread the OCD part of me is encouraging me to say:

BAEC! BAEC! BAEC!

adrianlondon

I only have 50 avios in the travel awards programme. The email says they will create a new Exec Club account for me. If I end up with two, with tier point expiry dates around 6 months apart, it could prove useful. I guess they'll end up being merged though.

BA6501

I'm also interested in this. I have a stash of 220k Iberia Avios because I didn't want them to be part of my BA HHA. If I don't send them over before 20 May, will they be stuck there forever?

memesweeper

lizban

None of this replies has dealt with the key question - will I still be able to to get in store avios at cafe Nero?!

It’s an alarmingly effective (and eye opening) way to earn avios.

corporate-wage-slave

I am going to guess it's going to be a bit like Vueling or Aer Lingus' scheme. So that involves having an email address and username combination unique to Flybe, so you end up with a new Avios.com account, and a rather long Avios membership number. That number will be used by Flybe to earn on their flights, though as you say that due to limitations on their MMB equivalent is very clunky from a customer perspective. Then the redemptions will look similar to Avios.com today but with relatively few ways of earning additional Avios within that scheme apart from via Flybe. The one merit it may have is that it could preserve the swapping of Avios between the various partners with the benefit of an Avios.com start point.

EsherFlyer

Reading each line of the FAQ again I found this:

As far as I can tell:

• AerClub and Vueling credit direct to Avios.com, who will continue to provide this service (no talk of them setting up a new programmes)
• Flybe are creating a new programme

So it looks like there will continue to be a web of connections to allow Avios transfer. If Avios.com continues "as is" for those two airlines maybe that will become the way to deal with the HHA challenge, or maybe it will become impossible.

One thing I don't understand is whey there is no reference to Iberia in the FAQ, etc. Wouldn't that be a sensible new "home" for some current Avios.com members ?

ratechaser

Prospero

The IAG presentation provided some insight about how the loyalty platform is expected to be structured with the ATRP, AerClub, FlyBe, kulula, and Vueling accounts configured on a single database. This allows for customers belonging to any one, or more than one of the above programmes to collect and redeem through a single balance. This already appears to be happening for customers who belong to both AerClub and ATRP, as with the ATRP element removed this week, the combined balance is now (or should be) showing when they log into their AerClub accounts.

The legacy BAEC, IB Plus, and Meridiana Club databases remain on standalone platforms but will be migrated to the main platform.

I don't fully understand the anatomy and inner workings but I think this is the gist of it.

neuromancer

bluemoon68

I'm still confused over Flybe. If some Avios members are being told their Avios account/ points will convert to a flybe account, what will happen between May 20 and whenever the Flybe programme opens?

sjrk1

I've read and reread the FAQ on avios.com, am I correct on the following?

- The ability to earn (via the e-store) and store points in a centralised pot on avios.com is being removed
- Everyone is being migrated to BAEC and may run the risk to two accounts if you don't proactively move points to BA
- Now have to use the BA e-store to earn points via hotels/online shopping etc which I believe has fewer partners
- Tesco Clubcard automatic collection will move to BAEC
- We can move avios from program to program, so there will be no orphaned points
- The whole thing will mess up in ways we cannot comprehend

I'm always confused by Flybe!
I would also like to know as ~75% of my avios earning flying is with them. I think the plan of attack is to continue as normal and hope for the best!
Hopefully if there are changes, it will be something straight forward such as there will be a temporary avios.com pool for flybe avios with the option to move points out. Once/if the flybe system is up and running it should hopefully act as pot for flybe avios with the ability to easily transfer out. It would be good if we could transfer automatically to BAEC but I doubt that will happen

One thing I want to know is, if I have pending avios will they transfer to BAEC or the mythical flybe program?

Calchas

Something that is quite annoying is the loss of the Avios redemptions map search constrained by date.

Quite often you just want to go somewhere sunny / cultural / far away but you are restricted by date. No one else offers a broad search like that.

T8191

I'm not sure if this is the right thread or not, but please bear with me.

My SiL and BiL have 51,819 Avios in their BAEC HHA ... these are about to expire, and it is unlikely they will ever get to use them due to age/health issues. SiL asked if they could transfer them to our BAEC accounts.

Having logged in to BAEC, that should be simple - as a BAEC Gold I can do that free, as they are part of my Friends and Family grouping. However, using her log-in as a Blue, it is clear they would each have to pay £140 [for up to 24,400], which makes their Avios a rather expensive purchase for me. I don't see that as good value, and the Avios aren't really needed anyway - I just hate waste!

So I wondered about transferring their Avios to new accounts at avios.com, and then getting them re-directed from there to my BAEC account. However, the changes discussed here seem to suggest that this is about to become a bit of a PITA - if not impossible.

Does anyone have a suggestion of how THEIR Avios with BAEC could get transferred to OUR BAEC accounts without paying £280?

I repeat, they have no foreseeable use for over 51k Avios, and simply want to get them to us.

JAXBA

Add them to your own HHA and spend them?

If they're expiring soonish, you may need to make, and then cancel, a redemption booking so that there's activity.