Nov 13, 2018, 12:10 am
Last edit by: Scotflyer80
Currently these aircraft are based in LHR T5. The registrations are:
A320neo
G-TTNA
G-TTNB
G-TTNC
G-TTND
G-TTNE
G-TTNF
G-TTNG
G-TTNH
G-TTNI
G-TTNJ
G-TTNK
G-TTNL
G-TTNM
G-TTNO
A321neo
G-NEOP
G-NEOR
G-NEOS
G-NEOT
G-NEOU
G-NEOV
G-NEOW
G-NEOX
G-NEOY
G-NEOZ
A320neo
G-TTNA
G-TTNB
G-TTNC
G-TTND
G-TTNE
G-TTNF
G-TTNG
G-TTNH
G-TTNI
G-TTNJ
G-TTNK
G-TTNL
G-TTNM
G-TTNO
A321neo
G-NEOP
G-NEOR
G-NEOS
G-NEOT
G-NEOU
G-NEOV
G-NEOW
G-NEOX
G-NEOY
G-NEOZ
NEOs and a couple of SH changes
Sep 16, 2019, 9:01 am
#541
Join Date: Nov 2010
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I think that's the only bit which (in practical terms) is new here: BA have long blocked out the last two rows on NEOs, as is mentioned up thread and in the removed CE Club table discussion. However people often did move to the final row on boarding, either with or without crew encouragement, but the EASA ruling now makes it a no go zone. It's all a bit daft, the NEO arrangement was intended to standardise IAG's fleet in this area, and the Recaro seats are a lot lighter from a fuel usage point of view, but the extra capacity factor of NEOs now seems to be ebbing away.
I haven't yet been on a NEO where I've been asked to wait before disembarking, though it has been reported upthread.
I haven't yet been on a NEO where I've been asked to wait before disembarking, though it has been reported upthread.
Sep 16, 2019, 9:03 am
#542
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Programs: BA Blue, EI Silver, Honours Gold, Marriott Gold
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I wonder if things like the table in forward rows will help? The story is that power points would not fit on the Pinnacle seats with the table, but the CEO's seem to mange? If its just the NEO's, I wonder if its directly to do with the weight of the heavier engines or the FBW system which has been reprogrammed to mimic the ceo models? My guess is that it is the latter, apparently the A318 and A380 feel the same to fly. Although pilot inputs in the flight deck are different, the effect of control surfaces is very different.
I guess loading more luggage at the front would help for now, maybe even removing the containers from the rear hold - although that would relegate the A320neos to T3 and LGW. More likely that Airbus will issue a software update to 'fix' this issue.
I guess loading more luggage at the front would help for now, maybe even removing the containers from the rear hold - although that would relegate the A320neos to T3 and LGW. More likely that Airbus will issue a software update to 'fix' this issue.
Sep 16, 2019, 9:10 am
#543
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: London, UK
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 3,440
I had noticed on EF that some Neo flights had rows 29/30 missing or they were blocked out.
As mentioned up thread, this means the ‘densification’ and smaller toilets and galleys are now all pointless. I’m sure BA are thrilled by this...
What will this mean for the deliveries scheduled early next year?
As mentioned up thread, this means the ‘densification’ and smaller toilets and galleys are now all pointless. I’m sure BA are thrilled by this...
What will this mean for the deliveries scheduled early next year?
Sep 16, 2019, 9:19 am
#544
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 5,596
I wonder if things like the table in forward rows will help? The story is that power points would not fit on the Pinnacle seats with the table, but the CEO's seem to mange? If its just the NEO's, I wonder if its directly to do with the weight of the heavier engines or the FBW system which has been reprogrammed to mimic the ceo models? My guess is that it is the latter, apparently the A318 and A380 feel the same to fly. Although pilot inputs in the flight deck are different, the effect of control surfaces is very different.
I guess loading more luggage at the front would help for now, maybe even removing the containers from the rear hold - although that would relegate the A320neos to T3 and LGW. More likely that Airbus will issue a software update to 'fix' this issue.
I guess loading more luggage at the front would help for now, maybe even removing the containers from the rear hold - although that would relegate the A320neos to T3 and LGW. More likely that Airbus will issue a software update to 'fix' this issue.
Sep 16, 2019, 9:21 am
#545
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 726
I wonder if it's been discussed by the board. Imagine them trying to implement it.
Sep 16, 2019, 9:23 am
#547
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Sep 16, 2019, 9:38 am
#548
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Location: UK
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At least there would be two toilets for the CE pax if seated at the at the rear.
Plus the queue for the single front one would balance out the tail heaviness!
Plus the queue for the single front one would balance out the tail heaviness!
Sep 25, 2019, 7:13 am
#549
Join Date: Mar 2015
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 689
After managing to avoid Neo's since introduced mostly due to a lack of flying BA Short Haul, I had the misfortune of riding on one yesterday, and stuck in the back to get the full experience. Yes, and I'm with others that say those seats are bad. The three back rows were blocked out on the flight and the flight seemed pretty much full otherwise in Economy although the internal system I was looking at said otherwise (I couldn't see 11% empty seats let alone any, so it was counting the back rows). The Ceo's running V2500's are more reliable, and don't have CoG/load issues, which nullifies the Neo fuel savings.
Sep 26, 2019, 3:11 am
#551
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Location: London, UK
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Sep 26, 2019, 10:31 am
#552
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Hertfordshire
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Posts: 553
Trimming the NEO
Sat on the A320N and the captain has just announced that the rear 3 rows need to remain unoccupied throughout the flight to keep the aircraft trimmed correctly.
Now I’d understand it if this was a charter for the Fatfighters club or we were at a STOL, it was hot and high or we were attempting a TATL, but this is a WAW-LHR short hop, its cool and raining and we’re not on a twin otter.
Surely they’re not razzing it to the max this evening and its going to be at the peak of its abilities?
Now I’d understand it if this was a charter for the Fatfighters club or we were at a STOL, it was hot and high or we were attempting a TATL, but this is a WAW-LHR short hop, its cool and raining and we’re not on a twin otter.
Surely they’re not razzing it to the max this evening and its going to be at the peak of its abilities?
Sep 26, 2019, 10:37 am
#553
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May be worth having a look at thi thread from post 533 onwards NEOs and a couple of SH changes