‘FLUB’ class: travel in First (F) cabin but with Club (J) service on 4-class aircraft
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I thought they were moved. But yes the reason I asked was because sometimes the F seats can show as available and you are advised not to move yourself there, if BA want to open F seats they will choose who to move up so by doing it yourself you do run a considerable risk of being moved back.
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Interestingly I am on a 789 run without F next week and currently in J. The flight looks pretty full in J so there is definitely a chance of FLUB. I agree with the OP that I would be a little annoyed if I get FLUB'ed and then get moved back to a different less desirable seat. Would I complain? No as it isn't really a failure as such.
Now if it come to taking revenge against BA I am sure I have many instances of poor service over the years I could invoke as (self) justification, but then BA are hardly going to join the dots so it would all be a bit pointless - albeit the issue the OP cites is more BA doing something within policy but not what the OP wanted, rather than an actual service failure anyway.
Now if it come to taking revenge against BA I am sure I have many instances of poor service over the years I could invoke as (self) justification, but then BA are hardly going to join the dots so it would all be a bit pointless - albeit the issue the OP cites is more BA doing something within policy but not what the OP wanted, rather than an actual service failure anyway.
I thought they were moved. But yes the reason I asked was because sometimes the F seats can show as available and you are advised not to move yourself there, if BA want to open F seats they will choose who to move up so by doing it yourself you do run a considerable risk of being moved back.
I know what you mean. I realise there would be no point complaining about a seat change to FR/U2 etc. But BA will probably chuck some Avios at me and then we will be even.
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I was able to select it just after booking (at T-48ish). I was aware of the risk in practical terms, but that still doesn't mean I'm not disappointed that it's happened, and particularly so at such short notice that there is just one (even worse) other seat free in J.
If this is a service failure it appears to be one of your own making where you took a gamble and knew the risk.
As for it not being personal, you are hiding it well

#470
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Ok, so BA253 on Friday has opened up FLUB rows 1 + 2 in MMB. We have had our preferred CS seats for a while. I was going to ask on this thread whether to select them or not.
Reading the last few pages - it looks like the answer is NO. So the best bet is to do OCLI when opens tomorrow, don't download BP and just don't touch the current seat selection?
Reading the last few pages - it looks like the answer is NO. So the best bet is to do OCLI when opens tomorrow, don't download BP and just don't touch the current seat selection?
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Ok, so BA253 on Friday has opened up FLUB rows 1 + 2 in MMB. We have had our preferred CS seats for a while. I was going to ask on this thread whether to select them or not.
Reading the last few pages - it looks like the answer is NO. So the best bet is to do OCLI when opens tomorrow, don't download BP and just don't touch the current seat selection?
Reading the last few pages - it looks like the answer is NO. So the best bet is to do OCLI when opens tomorrow, don't download BP and just don't touch the current seat selection?

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Ok, so BA253 on Friday has opened up FLUB rows 1 + 2 in MMB. We have had our preferred CS seats for a while. I was going to ask on this thread whether to select them or not.
Reading the last few pages - it looks like the answer is NO. So the best bet is to do OCLI when opens tomorrow, don't download BP and just don't touch the current seat selection?
Reading the last few pages - it looks like the answer is NO. So the best bet is to do OCLI when opens tomorrow, don't download BP and just don't touch the current seat selection?
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I have given advice about this upthread, along the lines of allowing yourself to be Flubbed rather than choosing a Flub seat, for precisely the reasons you are now facing. The back-and-fro on Flub is such it's not worth the gamble if you are attached to a particular sort of seat, particularly if you do this well before the flight is closed.
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You knew very well that you'd likely be moved out of FLUB. It's mentioned many times on this very thread, as are the reasons for doing it.
#476
Sitting in F when they aren't selling it
Hi all,
I'm flying on BA168 next month from PVG to LHR. The aircraft is a 789 and I'm booked in J. I see on ExpertFlyer that the first two rows of Business appear to be First seats (1-2-1), showing as blocked, as it appears they are not selling First on this route. In summer of 2021, I had a similar situation on CX from HKG-JFK. I called 48hr before the flight, asked to sit in one of the unsold First seats, and it worked. Does trying something similar on BA have any shot at working? It's the old CW seat, so an F seat, even without any improvement in service, would make a substantial difference.
Any input is greatly appreciated!
I'm flying on BA168 next month from PVG to LHR. The aircraft is a 789 and I'm booked in J. I see on ExpertFlyer that the first two rows of Business appear to be First seats (1-2-1), showing as blocked, as it appears they are not selling First on this route. In summer of 2021, I had a similar situation on CX from HKG-JFK. I called 48hr before the flight, asked to sit in one of the unsold First seats, and it worked. Does trying something similar on BA have any shot at working? It's the old CW seat, so an F seat, even without any improvement in service, would make a substantial difference.
Any input is greatly appreciated!
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Have a read through this topic, you’ll find all your answers here:‘FLUB’ class: travel in First (F) cabin but with Club (J) service on 4-class aircraftbut basically these seats cannot normally be selected in advance and are usually assigned by BA according to status shortly before checkin opens.
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It's also worth noting that they will only open the F cabin if J is full. Otherwise the cabin stays closed, much to the annoyance of my seat mate on a YYZ-LHR flight a few months back.
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Today I treated myself to a Flub World Europe experience!
Shorthaul work trip from LHR just happened to be a 777! I upgraded myself using avios (Ł8.50! and 5k avios) and put myself in 10A.
T-48 I noticed F opened up..trying my luck, I put myself in 1A although I read here that it's very much likely to be closed again and I'd be back in Club - not a big deal at all as a) it was what I was paying for and b) it's better than any small plane!
Checked in at LHR and paper ticket still said 1A...still wasn't sure it'll stick until I boarded...and it did!
Clearly lots of planegeeks - er - enthusiasts : Group 1 had those taking photos of the other B-gated aircrafts & meticulously following FR24, tracking any delays (there was, in fact, a 40 min delay before we were airborne).
There was even a DYKWIA moment on board when Pax X was not happy about being in Club World, he wanted to be in Flub! Unfazed, the CSM let X move.
Anyway... 1A was delightful, even for the 80 minute flight, good crew & a nice meal. Deplaning happened from 1L too which was a nice touch. I’ll have to start planning more of my work trips based on aircraft…😅


Shorthaul work trip from LHR just happened to be a 777! I upgraded myself using avios (Ł8.50! and 5k avios) and put myself in 10A.
T-48 I noticed F opened up..trying my luck, I put myself in 1A although I read here that it's very much likely to be closed again and I'd be back in Club - not a big deal at all as a) it was what I was paying for and b) it's better than any small plane!
Checked in at LHR and paper ticket still said 1A...still wasn't sure it'll stick until I boarded...and it did!
Clearly lots of plane
There was even a DYKWIA moment on board when Pax X was not happy about being in Club World, he wanted to be in Flub! Unfazed, the CSM let X move.
Anyway... 1A was delightful, even for the 80 minute flight, good crew & a nice meal. Deplaning happened from 1L too which was a nice touch. I’ll have to start planning more of my work trips based on aircraft…😅



#480
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My GF an I were 'FLUB'd' on BA252 on Wednesday. Seats had been moved to row 2 at OLCI time and thankfully they moved. (As expected, on the way out on BA253, First cabin wasn't used despite the seat map appearing to open up for a few hours before flight).