BABenchley

Special Services renamed the Concorde team

FlyerTalker688786

My guess is to convert the younger and less cycles mid-J birds to high-J to replace the retiring hi-J and add wifi in the same time.

lost_in_translation

"Avios

Progressive introduction of Dynamic Pricing from 2018"

Interesting...

As is the list of initiatives on p.120:

"
- Option exercise preference for current gen (A330) over new gen (A350 / B787)
- B777-200 life extension
- B747 life extension
- B777-200 / B787 densification
- Second hand SH and LH aircraft
- Fleet harmonisation"

What is B787 densification? Amending the 789 to the horrible layout of the 788?

BA6501

767s gone by the end of 2017?!

rapidex

Air Koryo buying 200 A380's and setting up a major hub in Pyongyang.

Perhaps not.

Deltus

What does that mean? Changing the rates on Part Pay with Avios, and Avios + Cash bookings? Or making last-minute avios bookings more expensive?

Globaliser

Why is it any more laughable as a threat than Brexit, weaker sterling or terrorism? Those are the four things under the heading of "More geopolitical uncertainty".

BA6948

I think it is going to be somehow like AF/KL where you have different tiers for Award and upgrade flights. As an example, a flight to AMS from Paris can cost between 8500 to 30000 miles depending in award availability. You have promo, classic and flex tiers which determine the amount of miles you have to pay.

St Elmos Fire

Since the recent refurbishment of the Hi-J aircraft they're probably the best WTP cabins in the fleet now though, alongside possibly the 787s

Dubh

surely that would be 330Neo not current gen?

Raffles

It's not an issue if, say, you add additional capacity at a higher price - it is genuinely accretive then.

SIMPLICITY, however, is a virtue which is greatly undervalued by frequent flyer schemes. Admittedly the lack of simplicity keeps me in a job, but still ....

In my experience, people in the loyalty industry simply do not understand the concept that their members do not spend every waking hour trying to understand the nuances of their schemes.

In reality, even the staff often don't get it. If we organised a frequent flyer / loyalty quiz night because 10 FTers and 10 Avios employees, it would be a humiliating defeat for Crawley .

orbitmic

would be my understanding too. Something like: ‘having listened to our customers, ba will make an additional 100,000 seats available each year for avios redemption. Now, even more popular flights will offer increased award availability with our simple new pricing model offering four award levels in economy: low, medium-low, medium and high, and three in premium economy and business: low , medium-low, and high, to reflect demand on different flights. Base mileage will remain unchanged while medium low, medium, and high seats will respectively cost 25%, 50%, and 100% more. The system will see the end of the complex peak/offPeak calendar system with peak dates now offering medium-low as their lowest price band. Ba will still offer a minimum of 4 award seats in economy and two award seats in business on every flight. First class seats offered will all be in the medium price band. Partner seats will also all move to low medium band in Y, W and J and medium in F. A customer named Cralex Uz commented: ‘those changes are wonderful! They reflect my perception of BA as a modern, innovative, and premium airline. I’m glad I’ll be able to get more award seats for just a few more avios on popular routes and dates like the summer months’. As part of the reform, gold awards will be maintained but based on 200% of the medium low fare (and 200% of the medium fare in first class).’

Sixth Freedom

Amen. I think the same could be said for pricing.

tetudc

That's certainly how I read that slide. I am booked on a flight to FCO on the 767 in July and I wouldn't be sad to have it swapped to literally anything else given what I've read about it here. No change to MMB if anyone's curious.

travellingblade

I read that as they will be in the fleet at the end of 2017 but gone before the end of 2018. Can't see them all retiring in the next 8 weeks.

I get shudders any time I see 'densification' on a BA slide now. I wouldn't be surprised if they are planning to remove the toilets in Y on the 787 to squeeze more cargo, sorry, passengers in.

Also spotted "Single group points bank by June 2018" under Avios on slide 112. Haven't seen that mentioned before on here.