BA Handling of laptop/tablet ban
#181
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I think it’s a matter of investing in new or more (or both) screening equipment. Why this should be the airline’s problem and not the government’s or the airport’s, I don’t know. But in any case the other airlines have done what it takes and BA hasn’t, and, by the looks of it, it won’t. As a result, BA passengers from those airports are compelled to check in bags if they want to take anything more than a phone with them, which is absurd. (Personally, I doubt security as such is at stake, and I’d certainly not feel more secure with lots of extra lithium-ion batteries arbitrarily forced into the hold: it’s just one more of these things that governments do to make us feel—or to look as though they make us feel—more “secure”).
Thankfully I am going on a 3 night city break not a long trip so will try and last without my iPad. No way I am putting it in the hold, as I am assuming BA won't pay for a new one if its stolen or damaged?
I should have done more research before planning this trip. Before you booked it I think the BA website should come up with a warning making passengers aware.
Fruther I have discovered that my phone allowance isn't available to use in Turkey with 3 Feel at Home, and the roaming charges are horrendous! The only phone company to allow use of allowances in Turkey is Vodafone it seems. This doesn't bother me as much as the iPad business, in fact it might be nice to be able to totally switch off for a few days.
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If BA forces the item into the hold then my reading of the Montréal Convention is that it is covered. Ryanair has something in their terms and conditions which clearly implies that there is cover, provided the item is properly powered down and packaged against getting a heavy knock. You can also insure the item too. EE have a travel package which caps data usage at 500mb for £6 a day
#183
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Are the restrictions still as listed at https://www.gov.uk/hand-luggage-rest...ectrical-items ?
I.e
Also, are chargers for phones (wall-plug with USB socket, USB to phone cable) allowed?
With those, my phone might just about survive an LHR-IST-LHR back-to-back
(Documentation on this remains very unclear; BA's website doesn't have obvious links to Turkish special restructions, the UK Government website says ask your airline, so it's still a hugely customer-hostile mess)
I.e
- 16cm in length
- 9.3cm in width
- 1.5cm in depth (thickness)
Also, are chargers for phones (wall-plug with USB socket, USB to phone cable) allowed?
With those, my phone might just about survive an LHR-IST-LHR back-to-back
(Documentation on this remains very unclear; BA's website doesn't have obvious links to Turkish special restructions, the UK Government website says ask your airline, so it's still a hugely customer-hostile mess)
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Are the restrictions still as listed at https://www.gov.uk/hand-luggage-rest...ectrical-items ?
I use a Polanfo Q5 which generally leads to a conversation that suggests it's not allowed. I then invite them to try the slot and the agents tend to be somewhat surprised it goes through, it's 1.3cm. In one case the agent wrote out the model number so he could get one for himself. The size of the USB plug is such that these pack are usually thicker so if your one is just 1cm thick then you should be ok. These restrictions apply to anything that is run off a PC/tablet/phone directly, such as power banks, disk drives and so on. Cables, headphones and wall socket plugs are ok. Phones are just given a visual check rather than put through the slot.
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What the security check agents have is a piece of clear perspex with two slots in it, like the UK post office. The important one is the bottom, smaller slot which is 1.5cm x 16 cm. This is tricky for power banks to get through, most are somewhat thicker. The top slot is presumably 9.3 cm x 16 cm though I haven't seen that used but theoretically the item needs to go through both slots.
Sneaky
Mine is a rather smaller Amazon Basics power back, which is no longer sold so I can't point to a specification page, but has a form factor very similar to that of a phone. It must use a flat Li-Polymer cell rather than the round Li cells used to build up most power packs, which is what makes most of them about 1.5cm (more or, in your case, less) thick.
#186
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Are the restrictions still as listed at https://www.gov.uk/hand-luggage-rest...ectrical-items ?
I.e
Also, are chargers for phones (wall-plug with USB socket, USB to phone cable) allowed?
With those, my phone might just about survive an LHR-IST-LHR back-to-back
(Documentation on this remains very unclear; BA's website doesn't have obvious links to Turkish special restructions, the UK Government website says ask your airline, so it's still a hugely customer-hostile mess)
I.e
- 16cm in length
- 9.3cm in width
- 1.5cm in depth (thickness)
Also, are chargers for phones (wall-plug with USB socket, USB to phone cable) allowed?
With those, my phone might just about survive an LHR-IST-LHR back-to-back
(Documentation on this remains very unclear; BA's website doesn't have obvious links to Turkish special restructions, the UK Government website says ask your airline, so it's still a hugely customer-hostile mess)
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The sizes were supposed to be set to allow all but the largest mobile phones, but smaller than the smallest Kindle or tablet. So yes, any iPad is intentionally excluded.
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What the security check agents have is a piece of clear perspex with two slots in it, like the UK post office. The important one is the bottom, smaller slot which is 1.5cm x 16 cm. This is tricky for power banks to get through, most are somewhat thicker. The top slot is presumably 9.3 cm x 16 cm though I haven't seen that used but theoretically the item needs to go through both slots.
"You can’t take any spare batteries or portable power sources in your hand or hold luggage if they’re larger than these measurements and could be used with a phone, laptop, tablet or e-reader.".
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I thought that larger powerbanks / spare batteries were still totally banned in both hold and hand luggage? They are at least according to the Gov.uk website:
"You can’t take any spare batteries or portable power sources in your hand or hold luggage if they’re larger than these measurements and could be used with a phone, laptop, tablet or e-reader.".
"You can’t take any spare batteries or portable power sources in your hand or hold luggage if they’re larger than these measurements and could be used with a phone, laptop, tablet or e-reader.".
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Yes, that's a second point I should have mentioned (it wasn't the question posed). Originally power banks were banned altogether, then they were allowed in hand luggage if the right dimensions, and more recently they were allowed in checked luggage if the right dimension. If it's bigger than the dimensions it shouldn't travel at all, however my guess is that if it's slightly bigger than the dimensions then you'd probably be OK in checked luggage, you definitely won't get it into hand luggage.
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Yes, that's a second point I should have mentioned (it wasn't the question posed). Originally power banks were banned altogether, then they were allowed in hand luggage if the right dimensions, and more recently they were allowed in checked luggage if the right dimension. If it's bigger than the dimensions it shouldn't travel at all, however my guess is that if it's slightly bigger than the dimensions then you'd probably be OK in checked luggage, you definitely won't get it into hand luggage.
https://www.britishairways.com/en-gb...d-restrictions
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Power banks are absolutely NOT permitted in checked luggage on BA.