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** AA Domestic First on two cabin will earn business TPs and avios for departures on or after 11 January 2017 - see reference posts for more details **
** Note that the practice of AA Domestic 3-class service flights booking into A for 210 TPs when I was no longer available ceased in September 2017. Discussion here. **
Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2016 Tier Point thread. We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.
Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.
This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below!
Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
Advanced Promotion Fares
See here in post # 8 for a 2017 archive of exEU sale fare, and see here in post # 445 for a 2016 archive of exEU sale fares.
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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies
Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines
Please remember to:
Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.
From Europe
24APR £0.90/TP £400 440 TLL-BA/AY-HEL-LON-GLA-KOI-ABZ ; TLL-BA/AY-HEL-LON-GLA-SDZ-ABZ (see post #1221)
02NOV £1.33/TP £583 440 LHR-HEL-TLL/TLL-HEL-LHR-NCL//NCL-LHR-HEL-TLL/TLL-HEL-LHR IIIIIIIIII Google Flights armouredant 2 nested tickets, both other a Saturday night. BA ticket, BA & AY metal, AY A350 possible LHR-HEL
08FEB £1.33/TP £346 260 JER-LGW-RAK-LGW-RAK I/I/I/I BA.com ramops
14AUG £1.65/TP £593 360 OSL-HEL-AGP-HEL-OSL I-I-I-I ITA Flythe96flag SH J cabin + possible red-eye (!) AY
26JUL £1.81/TP £72.70 40 MAD-FRA Z lan.com Prospero 787 flat bed LA
1JAN £1.85/TP £444 240 JER-LGW/LHR-HEL J/I/I/J ITA Matrix flatlander Available most weekends first half of 2016, fare IM0R
23NOV £1.89/TP £377 200 DUB-LHR-MAD-SVQ r/t I-I-I-I-I-I ITA Lorcancoyle IM0B IB DUB to SVQ BA and IB flights (I2 for domestic under IB code), random dates in December available, A340 on some dates (helpfully pointed out by Temps that domestic Spain is only 20 TPs)
24NOV £1.91/TP £765.00 400 BUD-DOH-SHJ I/A/I/A QR.com Wozza2404 A320 QR
11AUG £2.10/TP £420 200 AMS-LHR-GLA-LSI-ABZ-LSI-GLA-LHR-AMS I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I ITA Matrix --> Priceline.com MrMutton
13NOV £2.56/TP £410 160 LHR-HEL ? BA.com Lorcancoyle wide open as flight+hotel, can reduce with TCB cash back BA
From North, Central and South America
26Jan £1.50/TP £960 640 LGA-CMH-DCA-PHL-RDU-CLT-ATL-MIA-PTY and return I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I ITA Matrix--> BookWithMatrix dot com --> AA.com HPN-HRL other routings available; reverse routing is £40 more - see post 388 AA
10MAY £2.50/TP £203 80 ORF-CLT-ORD I/I AA.com
21MAY £2.08/TP £250 120 YYZ-PHL/LGA-CLT-ORF/PHF I/I/I AA.com
22NOV £1.43/TP £172 120 DCA-(LGA/BOS/PHL)-CLT-RDU (one way, reverse works as well) I/I/I ITA->BWM->priceline.com
From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
23Feb £0.99/TP £356 360 TPE-xKUL-PEN(JHB)-xKUL-TPE Z http://www.malaysiaairlines.com ermen two day min stay, promo fare MH
04JAN £1.10/TP £44 40 KUL-PEN D http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/uk/en.html fitch Works in both directions, rtn £80 if you can make the timnings work MH
11Nov £0.85/TP £307 360 TPE-KUL-SIN-KUL-TPE Z http://www.malaysiaairlines.com neofung
From Africa
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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. The guide to using ITA matrix in post #4 (see here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...
For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times
Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest. AMS and JER easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.
If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seems the most cost effective for this.
Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here
Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post (here) MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the last BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and first return Sunday for well under £500.
Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports)
Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520. Also the BA fare for LHR-HEL-TLL at ~£235 is still available and would get 200 TPs for a return.
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Historic information
2016 Archive
2015 Archive (6 months Jul to Dec)
2015 Archive (6 months Jan to Jun)
2014 Archive
.
** Note that the practice of AA Domestic 3-class service flights booking into A for 210 TPs when I was no longer available ceased in September 2017. Discussion here. **
Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2016 Tier Point thread. We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.
Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.
This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below!
Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
- from AMS/RTM to US ILN4T7S6/INX6T7S6 reported in this post and this post, e.g. NYC - €1,461, ORD - €1,492, LAS - €1,460, needs to be booked by 25 September, see linked post for details
- from PRG to US ILN4T8S6 reported in this post, e.g. IAD - £1,033, MIA - £1,133, ATL - £1,080, needs to be booked by 21 September, see linked post for details
Advanced Promotion Fares
- from DUB to US ILN8C1S6 reported here, e.g. NYC - €1,472, MIA - €1,578, see linked post for details
- froM DUB to US ILN8S4C1 reported here, e.g. JFK - €1,427, MIA - €1,532, LAS - €1,667, LAX - €1,795, HNL - €2,095, this is an advanced purchase fare so no book by deadline, see linked post for details
- from OTP to PHX ILN8R4C1 reported here, e.g. PHX - £1,252, see linked post for details
- from AMS to BKK INCEU60 reported here, e.g. BKK - £1,216, see linked post for details
See here in post # 8 for a 2017 archive of exEU sale fare, and see here in post # 445 for a 2016 archive of exEU sale fares.
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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies
Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines
Please remember to:
- Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
- Post full routes and full booking classes.
- Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
- List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.
Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.
From Europe
24APR £0.90/TP £400 440 TLL-BA/AY-HEL-LON-GLA-KOI-ABZ ; TLL-BA/AY-HEL-LON-GLA-SDZ-ABZ (see post #1221)
02NOV £1.33/TP £583 440 LHR-HEL-TLL/TLL-HEL-LHR-NCL//NCL-LHR-HEL-TLL/TLL-HEL-LHR IIIIIIIIII Google Flights armouredant 2 nested tickets, both other a Saturday night. BA ticket, BA & AY metal, AY A350 possible LHR-HEL
08FEB £1.33/TP £346 260 JER-LGW-RAK-LGW-RAK I/I/I/I BA.com ramops
14AUG £1.65/TP £593 360 OSL-HEL-AGP-HEL-OSL I-I-I-I ITA Flythe96flag SH J cabin + possible red-eye (!) AY
26JUL £1.81/TP £72.70 40 MAD-FRA Z lan.com Prospero 787 flat bed LA
1JAN £1.85/TP £444 240 JER-LGW/LHR-HEL J/I/I/J ITA Matrix flatlander Available most weekends first half of 2016, fare IM0R
23NOV £1.89/TP £377 200 DUB-LHR-MAD-SVQ r/t I-I-I-I-I-I ITA Lorcancoyle IM0B IB DUB to SVQ BA and IB flights (I2 for domestic under IB code), random dates in December available, A340 on some dates (helpfully pointed out by Temps that domestic Spain is only 20 TPs)
24NOV £1.91/TP £765.00 400 BUD-DOH-SHJ I/A/I/A QR.com Wozza2404 A320 QR
11AUG £2.10/TP £420 200 AMS-LHR-GLA-LSI-ABZ-LSI-GLA-LHR-AMS I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I ITA Matrix --> Priceline.com MrMutton
13NOV £2.56/TP £410 160 LHR-HEL ? BA.com Lorcancoyle wide open as flight+hotel, can reduce with TCB cash back BA
From North, Central and South America
26Jan £1.50/TP £960 640 LGA-CMH-DCA-PHL-RDU-CLT-ATL-MIA-PTY and return I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I ITA Matrix--> BookWithMatrix dot com --> AA.com HPN-HRL other routings available; reverse routing is £40 more - see post 388 AA
10MAY £2.50/TP £203 80 ORF-CLT-ORD I/I AA.com
21MAY £2.08/TP £250 120 YYZ-PHL/LGA-CLT-ORF/PHF I/I/I AA.com
22NOV £1.43/TP £172 120 DCA-(LGA/BOS/PHL)-CLT-RDU (one way, reverse works as well) I/I/I ITA->BWM->priceline.com
From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
23Feb £0.99/TP £356 360 TPE-xKUL-PEN(JHB)-xKUL-TPE Z http://www.malaysiaairlines.com ermen two day min stay, promo fare MH
04JAN £1.10/TP £44 40 KUL-PEN D http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/uk/en.html fitch Works in both directions, rtn £80 if you can make the timnings work MH
11Nov £0.85/TP £307 360 TPE-KUL-SIN-KUL-TPE Z http://www.malaysiaairlines.com neofung
From Africa
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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. The guide to using ITA matrix in post #4 (see here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...
For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times
Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest. AMS and JER easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.
If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seems the most cost effective for this.
Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here
Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post (here) MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the last BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and first return Sunday for well under £500.
Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports)
Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520. Also the BA fare for LHR-HEL-TLL at ~£235 is still available and would get 200 TPs for a return.
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Historic information
2016 Archive
2015 Archive (6 months Jul to Dec)
2015 Archive (6 months Jan to Jun)
2014 Archive
.
BA Tier Point Runs | 2017 master thread
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rule application and other conditions note - the following text is informational and not validated for autopricing. First/business class transatlantic fares application area these fares apply from europe to united states. Class of service these fares apply for first/business class service. Types of transportation fares governed by this rule can be used to create one-way/round-trip/circle-trip/open-jaw journeys. The ticket is invalid if flight coupons are not used in sequence. Fare does not apply for refund calculation after travel at a higher fare passenger expences not absorbed by carrier. Capacity limitations the carrier shall limit the number of passengers carried on any one flight at fares governed by this rule and such fares will not necessarily be available on all flights. The number of seats, which the carrier shall make available on a given flight, will be determined by the carriers best judgement. Level- are not subject to capacity control. Eligibility no eligibility requirements apply. Day/time no day/time travel restrictions apply. Seasonality permitted 25jun17 through 22aug17 or 23nov17 through 30nov17 or 18dec17 through 04jan18 or 19mar18 through 12apr18 for each transatlantic sector. Season is based on trip date. Flight application the fare component must not be on one or more of the following ha flights 1900 through 9999. And the fare component must not include travel between puerto rico/us virgin islands and united states/canada on one or more of the following any as flight any b6 flight any ha flight any ws flight. And the fare component must not include travel via sen/stn airport on one or more of the following any be flight. And the fare component must not be on one or more of the following any ba flight operated by vy in combination with one or more of the following any ba flight operated by aa any ba flight operated by ab any ba flight operated by ay any ba flight operated by be any ba flight operated by bt any ba flight operated by hn any ba flight operated by ig any ba flight operated by us any ba flight operated by s7 any ab flight any af flight any ay flight any at flight any be flight any bt flight any hg flight any ig flight any jp flight any ju flight any kk flight any km flight any ou flight any ro flight any ov flight any s7 flight any tu flight any us flight any 6e flight. And if the fare component includes travel within europe then that travel must be on one or more of the following any ba flight any ib flight operated by ba any ib flight operated by ab any ib flight operated by ay any ib flight operated by hg any ib flight operated by ib any ib flight operated by s7 any ay flight operated by ay any ay flight operated by ab any ay flight operated by ba any ay flight operated by hg any ay flight operated by ib any ay flight operated by s7 any ab flight operated by ab any ab flight operated by ba any ab flight operated by ay any ab flight operated by hg any ab flight operated by ib any hg flight operated by hg any s7 flight operated by s7 any at flight operated by at any be flight operated by be any bt flight operated by bt any ig flight operated by ig any jp flight operated by jp any ju flight operated by ju any kk flight operated by kk any km flight operated by km any ou flight operated by ou any ov flight operated by ov any ro flight operated by ro any tu flight operated by tu any fb flight operated by fb any 9b flight. And if the fare component includes travel within canada then that travel must be on one or more of the following any ba flight any aa flight operated by aa any ws flight operated by ws. And if the fare component includes travel within hawaii then that travel must be on one or more of the following any ba flight any aa flight operated by aa any ha flight operated by ha. And if the fare component includes travel within united states then that travel must be on one or more of the following any ba flight any aa flight operated by aa any as flight operated by as any ha flight operated by ha. And if the fare component includes travel between canada and united states then that travel must be on one or more of the following any ba flight any aa flight operated by aa. And if the fare component includes travel between hawaii and contiguous u.s.a./alaska then that travel must be on one or more of the following any ba flight any aa flight operated by aa any as flight operated by as. And the fare component must include travel via each transatlantic sector on one or more of the following any ba flight. Advance reservations/ticketing confirmed reservations for all sectors are required at least 28 days before departure. Ticketing must be completed within 3 days after reservations are made or at least 28 days before departure whichever is earlier. Note - text below not validated for autopricing. Due to ttl robot process differences may exist between the crs last ticketing date and ttl robot remark. The information by ssr in the pnr prevails. Minimum stay travel from inbound transatlantic sector must commence no earlier than the first sun after departure of the outbound transatlantic sector. Maximum stay travel from last stopover must commence no later than 12 months after departure from fare origin. Stopovers stopovers not permitted on the fare component. Transfers 2 transfers permitted in each direction. 2 permitted via aa/ab/ay/ba/hg/ib only in europe in each direction. And - 2 transfers permitted in each direction. 1 permitted between aa/ba/ib and b6 in bos/ jfk in each direction 1 permitted between aa/ba/ib and as in lax/ pdx/sea in each direction 1 permitted between aa/ba/ib and ws in canada in each direction 1 permitted between aa/ba/ib and ha in hawaii in each direction 2 permitted via aa/ba/ib only in united states/canada in each direction. Fare break surface sectors not permitted and embedded surface sectors permitted on the fare component. Combinations end-on-end not permitted. Side trips permitted with no restrictions. Open jaws fares may be combined on a half round trip basis -to form single or double open jaws a maximum of two international fare components permitted. Mileage of the open segment must be equal/ less than mileage of the longest flown fare component. Provided - combinations are with any fare for carrier ba/ib/ ay/aa in any rule in tariff aatbar - between the usa/canada-area 2/3 via atl fbra12p - between area 1/2 except usa/ca fbra13p - between area 1/3 except usa/ca fbrinpv - between usa/ca-area 1/2/3 ipra - between usa/ca-area 2/3 and guam-area 2 iprai - between the usa/canada-area 2/3 via atl iprsaa2 - between the western hemisphere-area 2 via atl iprsaa3 - south atlantic/central/south america/ mexico/caribbean/greenland/st pierre et miquelon - area 3 sa2bar - between western hemisphere-area 2 via atl sa3bar - between the western hemisphere-area 3 via atl tafpbar - between area 1-area 2/3 and guam-area 2. Round trips/circle trips fares may be combined on a half round trip basis -to form round trips -to form circle trips except for around-the-world fares a maximum of two international fare components permitted. Provided - combinations are with any fare for carrier ba/ib/ ay/aa in any rule in tariff aatbar - between the usa/canada-area 2/3 via atl fbra12p - between area 1/2 except usa/ca fbra13p - between area 1/3 except usa/ca fbrinpv - between usa/ca-area 1/2/3 ipra - between usa/ca-area 2/3 and guam-area 2 iprai - between the usa/canada-area 2/3 via atl iprsaa2 - between the western hemisphere-area 2 via atl iprsaa3 - south atlantic/central/south america/ mexico/caribbean/greenland/st pierre et miquelon - area 3 sa2bar - between western hemisphere-area 2 via atl sa3bar - between the western hemisphere-area 3 via atl tafpbar - between area 1-area 2/3 and guam-area 2. Open jaws fares may be combined on a half round trip basis -to form single or double open jaws a maximum of two international fare components permitted. Mileage of the open segment must be equal/ less than mileage of the longest flown fare component. Provided - combinations are with any fare for carrier aa in any rule in tariff ipra - between usa/ca-area 2/3 and guam-area 2 iprai - between the usa/canada-area 2/3 via atl iprsaa2 - between the western hemisphere-area 2 via atl iprsaa3 - south atlantic/central/south america/ mexico/caribbean/greenland/st pierre et miquelon - area 3. Round trips/circle trips fares may be combined on a half round trip basis -to form round trips -to form circle trips a maximum of 2 fare break points permitted. Provided - combinations are with any fare for carrier aa in any rule in tariff ipra - between usa/ca-area 2/3 and guam-area 2 iprai - between the usa/canada-area 2/3 via atl iprsaa2 - between the western hemisphere-area 2 via atl iprsaa3 - south atlantic/central/south america/ mexico/caribbean/greenland/st pierre et miquelon - area 3. Blackout dates no blackout dates apply. Surcharges no surcharge requirements apply. Accompanied travel accompanied travel not required. Travel restrictions no travel date restrictions apply. Sales restrictions footnote rule reservations must be made on/after 08jun17 and on/ before 22jun17. Fare rule tickets must be issued on the stock of ba or aa. Tickets may not be issued by pta. Tickets must be issued by electronic ticketing. Extension of ticket validity is not permitted. Or - tickets must be issued on the stock of ba or ib. Tickets may not be issued by pta. Tickets must be issued by electronic ticketing. Extension of ticket validity is not permitted. Or - tickets must be issued on the stock of ba or ay. Tickets may not be issued by pta. Tickets must be issued by electronic ticketing. Extension of ticket validity is not permitted. Or - tickets must be issued on the stock of ba or us. Tickets may not be issued by pta. Tickets must be issued by electronic ticketing. Extension of ticket validity is not permitted. General rule - apply unless otherwise specified tickets may not be sold in argentina/venezuela/nigeria/ angola. Tickets may only be sold in area 1/area 2/area 3. Penalties cancellations any time ticket is non-refundable. Note - text below not validated for autopricing. Fare component is non-refundable. ---------------------------------------------- waived for death of a passenger and passengers travelling companions. ---------------------------------------------- when combining non-refundable fares with refundable fares 1. The amount paid on each refundable fare component is refunded. 2. The amount paid on each non-refundable fare component will not be refunded. 3. When combining fares charge the sum of the cancellation fees of all cancelled fare components. ---------------------------------------------- refund of unused taxes fees and charges paid to third parties permitted. Associated carrier imposed charges will not be refunded. ---------------------------------------------- refund permitted within ticket validity. ---------------------------------------------- any non-refundable amount from a previous ticket remains non-refundable following a change. ---------------------------------------------- ticket is not transferable to another person. ---------------------------------------------- -------cancellation repricing conditions------ reprice using any fare type except eru and eou. Flown coupons must be repriced using historical fares in effect on the previous ticketing date. The fare for the journey travelled must be capped at the total fare amount plus carrier imposed charge paid on the ticket being presented for refund. Fully flown fare components may be repriced using any booking code within the same cabin provided the new fare amount is equal or higher than original. Partially flown fare components must be repriced using the same or higher booking code. Changes any time charge eur 300.00 for reissue/revalidation. Note - text below not validated for autopricing. With the exception of tickets changed in the us any penalty fee must be collected via an emd. Refer to speedbirdclub.com or batraveltrade.com and your gds for instructions. ---------------------------------------------- charge applies per transaction - per person for all passenger types. Infants without a seat - no charge. -------------------------------------------------- a change is a date/flight/routing/booking code change. New reservation and reissue/revalidation must be made on the same day. -------------------------------------------------- reissue must be made the same day as change of reservation but no later than scheduled departure time of flight being changed. Otherwise the ticket will only be valid for refund if applicable. -------------------------------------------------- when more than one fare component is changed the highest penalty of all changed fare components within the journey applies. -------------------------------------------------- --- repricing conditions --- reprice using any fare type except eru and eou. A. Before departure of journey when the first fare component is changed the itinerary must be re-priced using current fares in effect on the date the ticket is reissued. B. Before departure of journey when changes are to booking code only in the first fare component and result in a higher fare the itinerary must be re-priced using historical fares in effect on the previous ticketing date or using current fares in effect on the date the ticket is reissued - whichever is lower. C. Before departure of journey when there are no changes to the first fare component but other fare components are changed the itinerary must be re-priced using historical fares in effect on the previous ticketing date or using current fares in effect on the date the ticket is reissued- whichever is lower. D. After departure of journey the itinerary must be re-priced using historical fares in effect on the previous ticketing date. -------------------------------------------------- 1. If same booking class is used new ticket may be lower - equal or higher than previous and must comply with all provisions of the new fare being applied. 2. If a different booking class is used new ticket may be equal or higher than previous and must comply with all provisions of the new fare being applied. -------------------------------------------------- when the itinerary results in a higher fare the difference will be collected. Any applicable change fee still applies. -------------------------------------------------- when the new itinerary results in a lower fare the change fee applies and no credit of the residual amount will be made. -------------------------------------------------- any non-refundable amount from a previous ticket remains non-refundable following a change. -------------------------------------------------- no-shows for a flight are considered a cancellation after departure and changes are not permitted. -------------------------------------------------- ticket is not transferable to another person. Hip/mileage exceptions the higher intermediate point rule does not apply for connections. And - the higher intermediate point rule does not apply for stopovers. Ticket endorsements the original and the reissued ticket must be annotated - non/ref restrictions apply - in the endorsement box. Children discounts cnn/accompanied child psgr 2-11 - charge 75 percent of the fare. Ticket designator - ch. Must be accompanied on all flights by adult psgr. Or - ins/infant with a seat psgr under 2 - charge 75 percent of the fare. Ticket designator - ch. Must be accompanied on all flights by adult psgr. Or - inf/infant without a seat psgr under 2 - charge 10 percent of the fare. Ticket designator - in. Must be accompanied on all flights by adult psgr. Tour conductor discounts tur/tour conductor psgr - no discount. Agent discounts agt/agent psgr - no discount. All other discounts no discounts for others. Miscellaneous provisions this fare must not be used as through fare with a differential and/or to calculate differential. Fare by rule not applicable. Groups no group provisions apply. Tours no tour provisions apply. Visit another country no visit another country provisions apply. Deposits no deposit provisions apply. Voluntary changes in the event of changes to ticketed flights before departure of journey and within ticket validity certain domestic reissue provisions may be overridden by those of ba international fares charge eur 300.00 or highest fee of all changed fare components and reprice using fares in effect when tkt was issued provided all of the following conditions are met- 1. No change to 1st fare component 2. When no intl coupons remain - all new travel must be domestic 3. Change is before original scheduled flight 4. Any carrier i- fare family is used 5. Any fare type except eou/eru are used 6. All rule and booking code provisions are met 7. Adv res is measured from original tkt date to departure of pricing unit or - reprice using fares in effect when tkt was issued provided all of the following conditions are met- 1. No change to 1st fare component 2. When no intl coupons remain - all new travel must be domestic 3. Change is before original scheduled flight 4. Any carrier fares are used 5. Any fare type except eou/eru are used 6. New tkt has equal or higher value than previous tkt 7. All rule and booking code provisions are met 8. Adv res is measured from original tkt date to departure of pricing unit or - reprice using fares in effect today provided all of the following conditions are met- 1. When no intl coupons remain - all new travel must be domestic 2. Change is before original scheduled flight 3. Any carrier i- fare family is used 4. Any fare type except eou/eru are used 5. Adv res is measured from reissue date to departure of pricing unit or - reprice using fares in effect today provided all of the following conditions are met- 1. When no intl coupons remain - all new travel must be domestic 2. Change is before original scheduled flight 3. Any carrier fares are used 4. Any fare type except eou/eru are used 5. New tkt has equal or higher value than previous tkt 6. Adv res is measured from reissue date to departure of pricing unit when change results in lower fare ignore residual then add-collect endorsement box - higher non-ref amt and new endorsements. Or - before departure of journey and within ticket validity certain domestic reissue provisions may be overridden by those of ba international fares charge highest fee of all changed fare components - discounts apply - no fee for infants w/o seat changes not permitted/refund tkt-any remaining amt will apply to new tkt when change results in lower fare ignore residual then add-collect endorsement box - higher non-ref amt and new endorsements. Or - after departure of journey and within ticket validity certain domestic reissue provisions may be overridden by those of ba international fares charge eur 300.00 or highest fee of all changed fare components and reprice using fares in effect when tkt was issued provided all of the following conditions are met- 1. When no intl coupons remain - all new travel must be domestic 2. Change is before original scheduled flight 3. Any carrier i- fare family is used 4. Any fare type except eou/eru are used 5. All rule and booking code provisions are met 6. Adv res is measured from original tkt date to departure of pricing unit or - reprice using fares in effect when tkt was issued provided all of the following conditions are met- 1. When no intl coupons remain - all new travel must be domestic 2. Change is before original scheduled flight 3. Any carrier fares are used 4. Any fare type except eou/eru are used 5. New tkt has equal or higher value than previous tkt 6. All rule and booking code provisions are met 7. Adv res is measured from original tkt date to departure of pricing unit when change results in lower fare ignore residual then add-collect endorsement box - higher non-ref amt and new endorsements. Or - after departure of journey and within ticket validity certain domestic reissue provisions may be overridden by those of ba international fares charge highest fee of all changed fare components - discounts apply - no fee for infants w/o seat changes not permitted/refund tkt-any remaining amt will apply to new tkt when change results in lower fare ignore residual then add-collect endorsement box - higher non-ref amt and new endorsements. . Voluntary refunds check category 16 or contact carrier for details. Negotiated fares not applicable. International construction not a constructed fare
#2087
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: UK
Posts: 221
Thank you Catharsis.
Found what I was looking for:
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Found what I was looking for:
"Reservations must be made on/after 08JUN17 and on/before 22JUN17."
#2088
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: UK
Programs: VS Gold and a few more.....
Posts: 95
DUB-LCY-JFK-LAX-LAS-LHR-DUB for £1263 in July/August for anyone looking for a semi-decent fare.
BA1 included and 540TP's.
https://goo.gl/flights/kiE1
BA1 included and 540TP's.
https://goo.gl/flights/kiE1
#2089
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Jerusalem
Programs: ba gold
Posts: 103
Thanks Karfa for the wonderful guide
just one route I noticed that was missing from the long-haul+ routes on AA is lax-hkg
just one route I noticed that was missing from the long-haul+ routes on AA is lax-hkg
#2090
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2014
Location: UK
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 12,262
Book it before the € strengthens and wipes out the deal.
#2091
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Wolverhampton
Programs: BA Silver, Hilton Diamond, Marriot Gold, Radisson Gold, Amex Platinum
Posts: 1,607
When do they typically stop BA1 near christmas?
Never mind, the fare adds £500 when BA1 selected on my dates..
Never mind, the fare adds £500 when BA1 selected on my dates..
Last edited by Smid; Jun 9, 2017 at 3:32 am
#2092
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: UK
Programs: BA Silver, Marriott Titanium, Accor Plat, IHG Diamond
Posts: 651
DUB-LCY-JFK-LAX-LAS-LHR-DUB for £1263 in July/August for anyone looking for a semi-decent fare.
BA1 included and 540TP's.
https://goo.gl/flights/kiE1
BA1 included and 540TP's.
https://goo.gl/flights/kiE1
You can also route via LAX-JFK on the return part for a bit more (I can price it at $1840/£1445 on the dates you posted) for a total of 720 tier points.
Advance purchase of 28 days though, I would have booked if it allowed travel this month.
#2093
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 118
does anyone have any intel on BA sale in the UK? I need to book work trip to Montreal but all the low cost carrier competition is so much cheaper!! And I want to fly oneworld.
#2094
Ambassador, British Airways; FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Original Poster
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Leeds, UK
Programs: BA GGL/CCR, GfL, HH Diamond
Posts: 42,967
#2095
Ambassador, British Airways; FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Original Poster
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Leeds, UK
Programs: BA GGL/CCR, GfL, HH Diamond
Posts: 42,967
#2096
Join Date: May 2012
Location: SXE
Programs: QF LTG, VA Gold, BA Gold, HH, SFSC
Posts: 502
Wonder if anyone could give me some advice on how to approach the next few months of my BAEC membership.
My goal is to attain Silver status next year so I can get lounge access when I make 4 or 5 transatlantic crossings.
I'm currently sitting on 485 TP with a flight to come in August that'll take me to 555 TP.
My collection year ends 8th November 2017.
I've also recently relocated to NYC from London. So if I make my first ever Tier Point run it'll likely have to be from there.
I'm also wondering whether it makes sense to switch to AA loyalty program?
My goal is to attain Silver status next year so I can get lounge access when I make 4 or 5 transatlantic crossings.
I'm currently sitting on 485 TP with a flight to come in August that'll take me to 555 TP.
My collection year ends 8th November 2017.
I've also recently relocated to NYC from London. So if I make my first ever Tier Point run it'll likely have to be from there.
I'm also wondering whether it makes sense to switch to AA loyalty program?
#2097
Ambassador, British Airways; FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Original Poster
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Leeds, UK
Programs: BA GGL/CCR, GfL, HH Diamond
Posts: 42,967
As spotted by gingeola, and exDUB sale to the US in J.
exDUB ILN8S4T1 Sale Fare
This is an exDUB sale fare to the US. The fare does cover travel dates for 2018. However, if you are looking for 2018 you need to bear in mind that AA flights are only released at 330 days whilst BA flights are released at 355 days.
Example prices for summer 2017, all price with a LHR connection. Slightly lower prices may be found by taking the direct AA DUB-US flights:
Prices updated 19 June
Example prices:
DUB-NYC - €1,407
DUB-ORD - €1,575
DUB-MIA - €1,464
DUB-LAX - €1,697
DUB-LAS - €1,604€1,438
DUB-HNL - €1,972
There is a BA DUB-LCY service which started in October 2014 and there is an early morning arrival in to LCY you can do a same day connection from DUB to LCY connecting on to BA1 departing at 0945. Any booking made on BA1-4 will only now earn 140 TPs.
There is also a AY DUB-HEL service starting in March 2015 which you may be able to add in, so DUB-HEL-LHR/LCY-JFK- etc. DUB-HEL gets 40 TPs and the 80 TP rate would only apply to HEL-LHR as shorthaul+ is only exUK. Adding HEL may increase the price by £80-100 due to mileage restrictions.
Another alternative is DUB-MAD-LHR or DUB-LHR-MAD before doing the TATL. As there are more and more EI flights with BA codeshares now you could also do routings like DUB-AMS-LHR which would get you 60 TPs compared to DUB-LHR which would get you 40 TPs. Bear in mind there is no business cabin on EI shorthaul. DUB-MAN-LHR would also be possible, and this would get you 20+40 TPs (now we have domestic CE) so more than just DUB-LHR at 40 TP.
Note that the both outbound and inbound transatlantic flights must be within the permitted dates.
This allows positioning for your inbound TATL prior to the Sunday. You can therefore set off from HNL on Friday night arriving in PHX on Saturday morning, do PHX-JFK during Saturday, have a night in NYC on Saturday night and then do your TATL on Sunday.
An overnight connection of up to 24 hrs between flights would be counted as a transfer, anything beyond that would be a stopover.
So 2 in Europe and 2 in the US each way.
To HNL the optimal routing is something like DUB-HEL-LHR-XXX-LAX/PHX-HNL and return which gets you 1080 TPs. If you leave HEL out coming back then reduce by 80 TPs, and if you leave HEL out both out and back reduce to 920 TPs. XXX can be any east coast city provided that XXX-LAX/PHX is a > 2,000 mile flight.
If you look at post #2 of this thread there is a list of >2,000 mile flights.
exDUB ILN8S4T1 Sale Fare
This is an exDUB sale fare to the US. The fare does cover travel dates for 2018. However, if you are looking for 2018 you need to bear in mind that AA flights are only released at 330 days whilst BA flights are released at 355 days.
Example prices for summer 2017, all price with a LHR connection. Slightly lower prices may be found by taking the direct AA DUB-US flights:
Prices updated 19 June
Example prices:
DUB-NYC - €1,407
DUB-ORD - €1,575
DUB-MIA - €1,464
DUB-LAX - €1,697
DUB-LAS - €1,604
DUB-HNL - €1,972
There is a BA DUB-LCY service which started in October 2014 and there is an early morning arrival in to LCY you can do a same day connection from DUB to LCY connecting on to BA1 departing at 0945. Any booking made on BA1-4 will only now earn 140 TPs.
There is also a AY DUB-HEL service starting in March 2015 which you may be able to add in, so DUB-HEL-LHR/LCY-JFK- etc. DUB-HEL gets 40 TPs and the 80 TP rate would only apply to HEL-LHR as shorthaul+ is only exUK. Adding HEL may increase the price by £80-100 due to mileage restrictions.
Another alternative is DUB-MAD-LHR or DUB-LHR-MAD before doing the TATL. As there are more and more EI flights with BA codeshares now you could also do routings like DUB-AMS-LHR which would get you 60 TPs compared to DUB-LHR which would get you 40 TPs. Bear in mind there is no business cabin on EI shorthaul. DUB-MAN-LHR would also be possible, and this would get you 20+40 TPs (now we have domestic CE) so more than just DUB-LHR at 40 TP.
RESERVATIONS MUST BE MADE ON/AFTER 08 JUN 17 AND ON/BEFORE 22 JUN 17.
PERMITTED
25 JUN 17 THROUGH 22 AUG 17 OR
23 NOV 17 THROUGH 30 NOV 17 OR
18 DEC 17 THROUGH 04 JAN 18 OR
19 MAR 18 THROUGH 12 APR 18
FOR EACH TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
25 JUN 17 THROUGH 22 AUG 17 OR
23 NOV 17 THROUGH 30 NOV 17 OR
18 DEC 17 THROUGH 04 JAN 18 OR
19 MAR 18 THROUGH 12 APR 18
FOR EACH TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
RESERVATIONS FOR ALL SECTORS ARE REQUIRED AT LEAST 28 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE.
TRAVEL FROM INBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN THE FIRST SUN AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE OUTBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
Code:
STOPOVERS NOT PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.
Code:
2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION FREE 2 FREE ON AA/AB/AY/BA/HG/IB ONLY IN EUROPE IN EACH DIRECTION. AND - 2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION FREE 1 FREE BETWEEN AA/BA/IB AND B6 IN BOS/JFK IN EACH DIRECTION 1 FREE BETWEEN AA/BA/IB AND AS IN LAX/PDX/SEA IN EACH DIRECTION 1 FREE BETWEEN AA/BA/IB AND WS IN CANADA IN EACH DIRECTION 1 FREE BETWEEN AA/BA/IB AND HA IN HAWAII IN EACH DIRECTION 2 FREE ON AA/BA/IB ONLY IN THE UNITED STATES/ CANADA IN EACH DIRECTION FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.
To HNL the optimal routing is something like DUB-HEL-LHR-XXX-LAX/PHX-HNL and return which gets you 1080 TPs. If you leave HEL out coming back then reduce by 80 TPs, and if you leave HEL out both out and back reduce to 920 TPs. XXX can be any east coast city provided that XXX-LAX/PHX is a > 2,000 mile flight.
If you look at post #2 of this thread there is a list of >2,000 mile flights.
Code:
CANCELLATIONS ANY TIME TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE. NOTE - FARE COMPONENT IS NON-REFUNDABLE. ---------------------------------------------- WAIVED FOR DEATH OF A PASSENGER AND PASSENGERS TRAVELLING COMPANIONS. ---------------------------------------------- WHEN COMBINING NON-REFUNDABLE FARES WITH REFUNDABLE FARES 1. THE AMOUNT PAID ON EACH REFUNDABLE FARE COMPONENT IS REFUNDED. 2. THE AMOUNT PAID ON EACH NON-REFUNDABLE FARE COMPONENT WILL NOT BE REFUNDED. 3. WHEN COMBINING FARES CHARGE THE SUM OF THE CANCELLATION FEES OF ALL CANCELLED FARE COMPONENTS. ---------------------------------------------- REFUND OF UNUSED TAXES FEES AND CHARGES PAID TO THIRD PARTIES PERMITTED. ASSOCIATED CARRIER IMPOSED CHARGES WILL NOT BE REFUNDED. ---------------------------------------------- REFUND PERMITTED WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY. ---------------------------------------------- ANY NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT FROM A PREVIOUS TICKET REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE FOLLOWING A CHANGE. ---------------------------------------------- TICKET IS NOT TRANSFERABLE TO ANOTHER PERSON. ---------------------------------------------- -------CANCELLATION REPRICING CONDITIONS------ REPRICE USING ANY FARE TYPE EXCEPT ERU AND EOU. FLOWN COUPONS MUST BE REPRICED USING HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE. THE FARE FOR THE JOURNEY TRAVELLED MUST BE CAPPED AT THE TOTAL FARE AMOUNT PLUS CARRIER IMPOSED CHARGE PAID ON THE TICKET BEING PRESENTED FOR REFUND. FULLY FLOWN FARE COMPONENTS MAY BE REPRICED USING ANY BOOKING CODE WITHIN THE SAME CABIN PROVIDED THE NEW FARE AMOUNT IS EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN ORIGINAL. PARTIALLY FLOWN FARE COMPONENTS MUST BE REPRICED USING THE SAME OR HIGHER BOOKING CODE. CHANGES ANY TIME CHARGE EUR 300.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION. NOTE - WITH THE EXCEPTION OF TICKETS CHANGED IN THE US ANY PENALTY FEE MUST BE COLLECTED VIA AN EMD. REFER TO SPEEDBIRDCLUB.COM OR BATRAVELTRADE.COM AND YOUR GDS FOR INSTRUCTIONS. ---------------------------------------------- CHARGE APPLIES PER TRANSACTION - PER PERSON FOR ALL PASSENGER TYPES. INFANTS WITHOUT A SEAT - NO CHARGE. -------------------------------------------------- A CHANGE IS A DATE/FLIGHT/ROUTING/BOOKING CODE CHANGE. NEW RESERVATION AND REISSUE/REVALIDATION MUST BE MADE ON THE SAME DAY. -------------------------------------------------- REISSUE MUST BE MADE THE SAME DAY AS CHANGE OF RESERVATION BUT NO LATER THAN SCHEDULED DEPARTURE TIME OF FLIGHT BEING CHANGED. OTHERWISE THE TICKET WILL ONLY BE VALID FOR REFUND IF APPLICABLE. -------------------------------------------------- WHEN MORE THAN ONE FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE HIGHEST PENALTY OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS WITHIN THE JOURNEY APPLIES. -------------------------------------------------- --- REPRICING CONDITIONS --- REPRICE USING ANY FARE TYPE EXCEPT ERU AND EOU. A. BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY WHEN THE FIRST FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE ITINERARY MUST BE RE-PRICED USING CURRENT FARES IN EFFECT ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED. B. BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY WHEN CHANGES ARE TO BOOKING CODE ONLY IN THE FIRST FARE COMPONENT AND RESULT IN A HIGHER FARE THE ITINERARY MUST BE RE-PRICED USING HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE OR USING CURRENT FARES IN EFFECT ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED - WHICHEVER IS LOWER. C. BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY WHEN THERE ARE NO CHANGES TO THE FIRST FARE COMPONENT BUT OTHER FARE COMPONENTS ARE CHANGED THE ITINERARY MUST BE RE-PRICED USING HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE OR USING CURRENT FARES IN EFFECT ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED- WHICHEVER IS LOWER. D. AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY THE ITINERARY MUST BE RE-PRICED USING HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE. -------------------------------------------------- 1. IF SAME BOOKING CLASS IS USED NEW TICKET MAY BE LOWER - EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS AND MUST COMPLY WITH ALL PROVISIONS OF THE NEW FARE BEING APPLIED. 2. IF A DIFFERENT BOOKING CLASS IS USED NEW TICKET MAY BE EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS AND MUST COMPLY WITH ALL PROVISIONS OF THE NEW FARE BEING APPLIED. -------------------------------------------------- WHEN THE ITINERARY RESULTS IN A HIGHER FARE THE DIFFERENCE WILL BE COLLECTED. ANY APPLICABLE CHANGE FEE STILL APPLIES. -------------------------------------------------- WHEN THE NEW ITINERARY RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE THE CHANGE FEE APPLIES AND NO CREDIT OF THE RESIDUAL AMOUNT WILL BE MADE. -------------------------------------------------- ANY NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT FROM A PREVIOUS TICKET REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE FOLLOWING A CHANGE. -------------------------------------------------- NO-SHOWS FOR A FLIGHT ARE CONSIDERED A CANCELLATION AFTER DEPARTURE AND CHANGES ARE NOT PERMITTED. -------------------------------------------------- TICKET IS NOT TRANSFERABLE TO ANOTHER PERSON.
Last edited by KARFA; Jun 19, 2017 at 2:57 am
#2099
Join Date: May 2017
Programs: BA
Posts: 23
How can I book this, I'm having a real hard time on the AA website. Are people achieving this via the multi-city option?
17DEC | £0.75/TP | £909 | 1200 | DUB-LHR-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-DUB | I/I/A/A/A/A/I/I | aa.com | perthflyer | BA AA
any help would really be appreciated, i've spent all day looking at these but have not come close to any of the prices that are listed.
17DEC | £0.75/TP | £909 | 1200 | DUB-LHR-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-DUB | I/I/A/A/A/A/I/I | aa.com | perthflyer | BA AA
any help would really be appreciated, i've spent all day looking at these but have not come close to any of the prices that are listed.
#2100
Join Date: Jul 2009
Programs: BAEC Silver, IHG Diamond
Posts: 7,770
How can I book this, I'm having a real hard time on the AA website. Are people achieving this via the multi-city option?
17DEC £0.75/TP £909 1200 DUB-LHR-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-DUB I/I/A/A/A/A/I/I aa.com perthflyer BA AA
any help would really be appreciated, i've spent all day looking at these but have not come close to any of the prices that are listed.
17DEC £0.75/TP £909 1200 DUB-LHR-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-DUB I/I/A/A/A/A/I/I aa.com perthflyer BA AA
any help would really be appreciated, i've spent all day looking at these but have not come close to any of the prices that are listed.
More likely £1400-£1800 minimum nowadays.