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Old Jan 2, 2017, 6:09 pm
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** AA Domestic First on two cabin will earn business TPs and avios for departures on or after 11 January 2017 - see reference posts for more details **

** Note that the practice of AA Domestic 3-class service flights booking into A for 210 TPs when I was no longer available ceased in September 2017. Discussion here. **

Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2016 Tier Point thread. We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.

Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.

This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below!

Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
  • from AMS/RTM to US ILN4T7S6/INX6T7S6 reported in this post and this post, e.g. NYC - €1,461, ORD - €1,492, LAS - €1,460, needs to be booked by 25 September, see linked post for details
  • from PRG to US ILN4T8S6 reported in this post, e.g. IAD - £1,033, MIA - £1,133, ATL - £1,080, needs to be booked by 21 September, see linked post for details

Advanced Promotion Fares
  • from DUB to US ILN8C1S6 reported here, e.g. NYC - €1,472, MIA - €1,578, see linked post for details
  • froM DUB to US ILN8S4C1 reported here, e.g. JFK - €1,427, MIA - €1,532, LAS - €1,667, LAX - €1,795, HNL - €2,095, this is an advanced purchase fare so no book by deadline, see linked post for details
  • from OTP to PHX ILN8R4C1 reported here, e.g. PHX - £1,252, see linked post for details
  • from AMS to BKK INCEU60 reported here, e.g. BKK - £1,216, see linked post for details

See here in post # 8 for a 2017 archive of exEU sale fare, and see here in post # 445 for a 2016 archive of exEU sale fares.

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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies

Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines

Please remember to:
  • Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
  • Post full routes and full booking classes.
  • Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
  • List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.

Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.

From Europe

24APR £0.90/TP £400 440 TLL-BA/AY-HEL-LON-GLA-KOI-ABZ ; TLL-BA/AY-HEL-LON-GLA-SDZ-ABZ (see post #1221)
02NOV £1.33/TP £583 440 LHR-HEL-TLL/TLL-HEL-LHR-NCL//NCL-LHR-HEL-TLL/TLL-HEL-LHR IIIIIIIIII Google Flights armouredant 2 nested tickets, both other a Saturday night. BA ticket, BA & AY metal, AY A350 possible LHR-HEL
08FEB £1.33/TP £346 260 JER-LGW-RAK-LGW-RAK I/I/I/I BA.com ramops
14AUG £1.65/TP £593 360 OSL-HEL-AGP-HEL-OSL I-I-I-I ITA Flythe96flag SH J cabin + possible red-eye (!) AY
26JUL £1.81/TP £72.70 40 MAD-FRA Z lan.com Prospero 787 flat bed LA
1JAN £1.85/TP £444 240 JER-LGW/LHR-HEL J/I/I/J ITA Matrix flatlander Available most weekends first half of 2016, fare IM0R
23NOV £1.89/TP £377 200 DUB-LHR-MAD-SVQ r/t I-I-I-I-I-I ITA Lorcancoyle IM0B IB DUB to SVQ BA and IB flights (I2 for domestic under IB code), random dates in December available, A340 on some dates (helpfully pointed out by Temps that domestic Spain is only 20 TPs)
24NOV £1.91/TP £765.00 400 BUD-DOH-SHJ I/A/I/A QR.com Wozza2404 A320 QR
11AUG £2.10/TP £420 200 AMS-LHR-GLA-LSI-ABZ-LSI-GLA-LHR-AMS I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I ITA Matrix --> Priceline.com MrMutton
13NOV £2.56/TP £410 160 LHR-HEL ? BA.com Lorcancoyle wide open as flight+hotel, can reduce with TCB cash back BA

From North, Central and South America
26Jan £1.50/TP £960 640 LGA-CMH-DCA-PHL-RDU-CLT-ATL-MIA-PTY and return I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I ITA Matrix--> BookWithMatrix dot com --> AA.com HPN-HRL other routings available; reverse routing is £40 more - see post 388 AA
10MAY £2.50/TP £203 80 ORF-CLT-ORD I/I AA.com
21MAY £2.08/TP £250 120 YYZ-PHL/LGA-CLT-ORF/PHF I/I/I AA.com
22NOV £1.43/TP £172 120 DCA-(LGA/BOS/PHL)-CLT-RDU (one way, reverse works as well) I/I/I ITA->BWM->priceline.com

From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
23Feb £0.99/TP £356 360 TPE-xKUL-PEN(JHB)-xKUL-TPE Z http://www.malaysiaairlines.com ermen two day min stay, promo fare MH
04JAN £1.10/TP £44 40 KUL-PEN D http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/uk/en.html fitch Works in both directions, rtn £80 if you can make the timnings work MH
11Nov £0.85/TP £307 360 TPE-KUL-SIN-KUL-TPE Z http://www.malaysiaairlines.com neofung

From Africa


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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. The guide to using ITA matrix in post #4 (see here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...

For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times

Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest. AMS and JER easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.

If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seems the most cost effective for this.

Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here

Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post (here) MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the last BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and first return Sunday for well under £500.

Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports)

Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520. Also the BA fare for LHR-HEL-TLL at ~£235 is still available and would get 200 TPs for a return.

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2016 Archive
2015 Archive (6 months Jul to Dec)
2015 Archive (6 months Jan to Jun)
2014 Archive

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Old Aug 29, 2017, 1:09 pm
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Originally Posted by Wozza2404
If that's true then I'll make do for 8 hours on a day flight.

Coming back from PHL so no issues there as it is the old US A330.
We did not even ask AA for compensation. I received an email immediately after the flight (the sector) with an apology and information that they will send out paper vouchers to my address which I received and used for a LAX-HNL AA fare.

Be aware though on the vouchers:
- you have to send them in or present them at an airport
- they only work on AA flights
- interesting information: If the total fare is lower than the voucher value there will be no tax to be paid.

How to redeem: You are best off booking on hold via the aa.com side. Then you call American Airlines to put the voucher in.

Both travelers Emerald/ BA Gold

This was the original text of the email.
I was then able to change from AA miles to cash compensation.

Text from AA:

I am writing to you about your recent trip aboard flight xxx. Please accept my apologies that an aircraft equipment change meant you were unable to fly in a lie-flat seat.

As a gesture of our goodwill, we have added 25,000 bonus miles to your AAdvantage® account. This adjustment will be reflected in your account very soon. We look forward to seeing you on a future flight.
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Old Aug 29, 2017, 3:54 pm
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With the change that some CE destinations no longer need a Saturday night stay to be a reasonable price, what routes are good for a short notice (ie. this week!) midweek 1 or 2 overnight trip?
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Old Aug 29, 2017, 11:45 pm
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Originally Posted by Wozza2404
On the MAN-SAT fares that were available earlier in the year, does the 767-300 from MAN-ORD tend to be the retrofitted ones, or do they still fly those angle flat ones as well?

Good news for all of us. AA will have an all-flat-bed widebody fleet by the end of October 2017, as the last 6 unrefurbished 767s will be retired by then.
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Old Aug 30, 2017, 3:11 am
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Originally Posted by florens
Good news for all of us. AA will have an all-flat-bed widebody fleet by the end of October 2017, as the last 6 unrefurbished 767s will be retired by then.
There was talk last year of MAN-ORD going to a 787, but doesn't seem to have materialised.
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Old Aug 30, 2017, 3:13 am
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Originally Posted by Wozza2404
There was talk last year of MAN-ORD going to a 787, but doesn't seem to have materialised.
It will be, from next year, 25MAR18.

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/...as-of-20aug17/
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Old Aug 30, 2017, 3:20 am
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Originally Posted by florens
It will be, from next year, 25MAR18.

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/...as-of-20aug17/
At which point justifying going to LHR to get on a BA 777 in CW will become pretty difficult...
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Old Aug 30, 2017, 3:28 am
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Wasn't there a rumour that BA would take over MAN-ORD?
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Old Aug 30, 2017, 3:50 am
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Originally Posted by Calchas
Wasn't there a rumour that BA would take over MAN-ORD?
MAN-JFK was rumoured here http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...keover-aa.html
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Old Aug 30, 2017, 3:51 am
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Originally Posted by Wozza2404
There was talk last year of MAN-ORD going to a 787, but doesn't seem to have materialised.
I think it was a 787 for a while and has now swapped back to a 767.
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Old Aug 30, 2017, 6:36 am
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I'm about to purchase one of these:

AMS-LHR-KUL-BKK-SIN-LHR-AMS
AMS-LHR-KUL-BKK-HKG-LHR-AMS
AMS-LHR-HKG-BKK-HKG-LHR-AMS

Considering that I would like to use a GUF2 which one would you ?
SIN and KUL give me 160 TP but I would miss the HKG-BKK in first and the nice lounges in HKG.
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Old Aug 30, 2017, 6:39 am
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Originally Posted by Protocol7
I'm about to purchase one of these:

AMS-LHR-HKG-BKK-HKG-LHR-AMS
AMS-LHR-KUL-BKK-HKG-LHR-AMS
AMS-LHR-KUL-BKK-SIN-LHR-AMS

Considering that I would like to use a GUF2 which one would you choose?
SIN and KUL give me 160 TP but I would miss the HKG-BKK in first and the nice lounges in HKG.
I would choose AMS-LHR-HKG-BKK-HKG-LHR-AMS purely for the CX lounges both ways, and the CX hard product on the regional flights is better than MH.
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Old Aug 30, 2017, 6:39 am
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Originally Posted by Protocol7
I'm about to purchase one of these:

AMS-LHR-HKG-BKK-HKG-LHR-AMS
AMS-LHR-KUL-BKK-HKG-LHR-AMS
AMS-LHR-KUL-BKK-SIN-LHR-AMS

Considering that I would like to use a GUF2 which one would you choose?
SIN and KUL give me 160 TP but I would miss the HKG-BKK in first and the nice lounges in HKG.
I don't think you get Tier Points on MH in 'I' class if that's a consideration.
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Old Aug 30, 2017, 6:47 am
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Bear in mind that MH I class doesn't earn TP - although obviously LHR-KUL is a 6000+ route so earns 160 TPs.

I happened to do an AMS-BKK fare at the weekend albeit I stopped in KUL on the way out and was only in BKK for 2 hours on the way back. I did AMS-LHR-KUL-BKK-HKG-LHR-AMS and UuA'ed the two long haul flights. The LHR-KUL flight on a 789 was good. However I would say the experience departing KUL was a bit rubbish, and MH J on the KUL-BKK flight was underwhelming.

I definitely think routing via HKG out or back is worth it both for the A380 F and the CX lounges.
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Old Aug 30, 2017, 6:49 am
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Oh, oh, I didn't consider that, I would definitely pick the AMS-LHR-HGK-BKK return then. Thanks for letting me know.
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Old Aug 30, 2017, 6:50 am
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You could also use RJ's 787 between HKG and BKK each way depending on your days of travel. Their 'I' class does earn Tier Points.
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