The end of Diamond Club! [MBNA CC earning ceased 30 Sept, Avios transfer 30 Nov 2016]
#151
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#152
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When used at the AAnytime rate the miles required are very high (i.e. expensive to have collected). When MilesAAver is available I'll use my Avios. Perhaps I'm being a bit thick but I don't understand your comment.
#153
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Raffles wrote it all up about 3 weeks ago! http://www.headforpoints.com/2016/09...sa-mastercard/
Thanks for the pointer.
I no longer frequent this place as often so missed it.
cs
#154
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Just to be clear, the DC benefits are not being reduced, they're being eliminated.
#155
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The interchange cap is killing off all these, earnings cut on many others. Raffles has said on many occasions he expects the licenced cards to go.
#156
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As I said,
If the benefits had been reduced as with some other cards, you may have had a point. As it is, confusing 'Brussels' with BA is a non sequitur.
FWIW I don't like BA's decision either but I'm not blaming 'Brussels'..
FWIW I don't like BA's decision either but I'm not blaming 'Brussels'..
#157
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Why do you think that the UK is being worse affected than other EU countries? Doesn't the cap apply equally to all EU countries?
#158
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UK to USA west coast - AA is 90,000 return vs BA 150,000 peak or 125,000 off-peak.
UK to Dubai is - 85,00 on AA vs BA 120,000 or 100,000 off peak.
UK to Sydney is - 170,000 vs BA 300,000 Peak or 250,000 off peak.
Why would you use Avios to any of these destinations when you can use AA.
#159
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Why you redeem at AAnytime rates? Lets compare what is available to BA which is saver rates which offer miles better value.
UK to USA west coast - AA is 90,000 return vs BA 150,000 peak or 125,000 off-peak.
UK to Dubai is - 85,00 on AA vs BA 120,000 or 100,000 off peak.
UK to Sydney is - 170,000 vs BA 300,000 Peak or 250,000 off peak.
Why would you use Avios to any of these destinations when you can use AA.
UK to USA west coast - AA is 90,000 return vs BA 150,000 peak or 125,000 off-peak.
UK to Dubai is - 85,00 on AA vs BA 120,000 or 100,000 off peak.
UK to Sydney is - 170,000 vs BA 300,000 Peak or 250,000 off peak.
Why would you use Avios to any of these destinations when you can use AA.
#160
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I have a 7 figure Avios balance. I have a 6 figure AA balance. As a general rule, if I can use Avios I will because I have so many more and will probably keel over before I run out of them. I save my AA miles for when I need something last minute and in situations where I don't have a joker and cannot use Avios or MilesAAver because there's no availability. In those circumstances I redeem AA miles at the AAnytime rate which - mile for mile and point for point - are more expensive to collect than Avios.
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Just so we're clear, if the current class action against MasterCard for excessive interchange fees succeeds (and it should as the EU has already found them guilty and the only discussion is over the level of penalty) will you be accepting the £200 or so due to you or not?
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Eg A ban on fishing turbot can be equally applied across the EU but I don't think Luxembourg have much to worry about.
Last edited by hugolover; Sep 21, 2016 at 4:58 pm
#164
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Also. Didn't he point out that other licenced non-Amex cards have seen huge reductions in earnings due to the cap?
So whether this card got killed right now it was gonna get killed and when it did it would be cos of Brussels usual interference. The future is bleak for MBNA.
I single out the UK because having lived in a few different MS (especially rich ones) there was never anything like what we have in the UK when it comes to loyalty cards & the various deals. It's a much more competitive and vast marketplace and more difficult to obtain credit. Look at credit card usage in DE. So many people are just using an ec debit card.
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