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This thread examines BA's use of Amadeus' Theoretical Seating module. This kicks in at T-72 hours before departure, so this thread is primarily of interest to those travelling within the next few days.
FAQ : 'Theoretical Seating' : Blocked seats and status
#961
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I am not clear that CWS post says that Gold can choose any seat and no seats are blocked to Golds after TS kicks in.
My experience is that a block next to a gold is a block next to a gold, even for other golds, until the cabin starts to fill.
maybe a gold can post a picture of a cabin seatmap that is has every non occupied seat available to them after t-72 despite apparent status blocks showing in Expert traveller?
My experience is that a block next to a gold is a block next to a gold, even for other golds, until the cabin starts to fill.
maybe a gold can post a picture of a cabin seatmap that is has every non occupied seat available to them after t-72 despite apparent status blocks showing in Expert traveller?
#962
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The thread contained reports that sometimes it was not possible to move next to a Gold - so I certainly agree that there seems to be cases where a Gold can block another Gold, but my question was is this universally true from T-72? I don't know - we've got different observations/impressions being reported. More data would be useful
Re-reading some of that thread I can see it is something I actually did check at the time as it was directly relevant to the subject under discussion - it seemed all expected seats (not bassinets etc) were available to me on MMB at T-60 on a flight I was due to take. And I know for a fact there was another Gold in the cabin (his block held, mine - alas - did not, but c'est la vie).
But as I say, I'm not certain what the exact rules might be. You could well be right.
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BertieBadger and scottishpoet, I've got this example for you, about 30 hours before departure.
So I'd almost lay money on 3D being a Goldie, and that 3A, B, C, E and F are blocked to everyone except Goldies. I am in 4F and I can if necessary sit in 3E if I so wished but no Silver or below can sit in 3E or next to me. Then have a look at row 5 and 6. Now I think this flight may leave fairly full, though at the moment they have zero'd out all the fare buckets. So it wouldn't surprise me if in fact most of the front middles end up being taken. But at this stage I would say Golds can sit anywhere, Silvers can't get some seats or take a blocked seat, but can block the seat next to them, Bronze and below will get what they are given.
So I'd almost lay money on 3D being a Goldie, and that 3A, B, C, E and F are blocked to everyone except Goldies. I am in 4F and I can if necessary sit in 3E if I so wished but no Silver or below can sit in 3E or next to me. Then have a look at row 5 and 6. Now I think this flight may leave fairly full, though at the moment they have zero'd out all the fare buckets. So it wouldn't surprise me if in fact most of the front middles end up being taken. But at this stage I would say Golds can sit anywhere, Silvers can't get some seats or take a blocked seat, but can block the seat next to them, Bronze and below will get what they are given.
#964
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I will be rectifying that tomorrow at the airport for certain. Incidentally seatguru describes it as 'misaligned' but I guess the wording doesn't really matter - you can either see interesting aircraft and clouds out of it or you can't.....
Thanks very much for the heads up.
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Oh. Yes it massively is, and therefore no I very much didn't know haha.
I will be rectifying that tomorrow at the airport for certain. Incidentally seatguru describes it as 'misaligned' but I guess the wording doesn't really matter - you can either see interesting aircraft and clouds out of it or you can't.....
Thanks very much for the heads up.
I will be rectifying that tomorrow at the airport for certain. Incidentally seatguru describes it as 'misaligned' but I guess the wording doesn't really matter - you can either see interesting aircraft and clouds out of it or you can't.....
Thanks very much for the heads up.
#966
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BertieBadger and scottishpoet, I've got this example for you, about 30 hours before departure.
So I'd almost lay money on 3D being a Goldie, and that 3A, B, C, E and F are blocked to everyone except Goldies. I am in 4F and I can if necessary sit in 3E if I so wished but no Silver or below can sit in 3E or next to me. Then have a look at row 5 and 6. Now I think this flight may leave fairly full, though at the moment they have zero'd out all the fare buckets. So it wouldn't surprise me if in fact most of the front middles end up being taken. But at this stage I would say Golds can sit anywhere, Silvers can't get some seats or take a blocked seat, but can block the seat next to them, Bronze and below will get what they are given.
So I'd almost lay money on 3D being a Goldie, and that 3A, B, C, E and F are blocked to everyone except Goldies. I am in 4F and I can if necessary sit in 3E if I so wished but no Silver or below can sit in 3E or next to me. Then have a look at row 5 and 6. Now I think this flight may leave fairly full, though at the moment they have zero'd out all the fare buckets. So it wouldn't surprise me if in fact most of the front middles end up being taken. But at this stage I would say Golds can sit anywhere, Silvers can't get some seats or take a blocked seat, but can block the seat next to them, Bronze and below will get what they are given.
Anywhere ... apparently ... except for 5E ...
#968
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That's an interesting seat map and does not reflect what I ever saw when I was gold.
CWS, interesting you cannot pick 10D!! Its blocked in EF rather than occupied but not available to you.
CWS, interesting you cannot pick 10D!! Its blocked in EF rather than occupied but not available to you.
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I don't currently have any BA flights until July but I'll try remember to look at T-72 onwards. As I say the only time I appear to have checked, seems I could sit myself next to the other Gold and the cabin wasn't anywhere near full at time of checking, but there may have been other factors at play there......I'm certainly not offering it as anything conclusive.
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Hardly the end of the world and I'm sure it'll be sortable.
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Possibly, certainly for 10D that would make sense. I was a fairly late booking (today). I've just had another look and not much has changed other than that someone has taken 3F, but it's now 26 hours from departure so not much will change now, until the OLCI comes into play.
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Hi All
Hoping his is the correct place to ask this;
I am on the BA36 From MAA To LHR on 1st of June.
Seat expert shows 10J available however MMB App shows it as unavailable. See images below. I am BA Silver (not sure if that helps). Why is MMB not allowing me to move to 10J. I am guessing possible BA Gold members yet to book/reserve seat?
Any help is appreciated.
Hoping his is the correct place to ask this;
I am on the BA36 From MAA To LHR on 1st of June.
Seat expert shows 10J available however MMB App shows it as unavailable. See images below. I am BA Silver (not sure if that helps). Why is MMB not allowing me to move to 10J. I am guessing possible BA Gold members yet to book/reserve seat?
Any help is appreciated.
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#974
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Not sure, I am surprised the seat is open in Expert flyer as its more than t-72 so would typically be shown as blocked for golds. Similarly if it was a basinet. Will be nothing to do with Theoretical seating as its not T-72 yet so TS has not kicked in.
#975
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Thanks. Is it worth ringing the silver line and seeing if they can move me there? Or is experflyer wrong here?
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