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This 2015/16 thread is now closed. The 2017 thread is:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/british-airways-executive-club/1818553-premium-fare-deals-j-f-2017-edition.html


A collaborative collection and discussion of nice Avios-earning and TP-earning J & F premium fare deals. This thread is not for TP runs or published sales.
Some links to relevant threads can be found below.


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FIRST CLASS - RTM/AMS/BRU to West Coast (SFO, SAN, YVR, SEA) starting at 2330... (just click on the book with American link to get the good price. )
Oneworld: Italy and various EU to New York in club 1250
CONSOLIDATED QR 2017 Travel Festival Fares
Current QR Sale Fares (yes, I did...)
QR/UL FRA-MLE via DOH+CMB: 1380 RT across the board. 640 TP.
Switzerland/Italy/Sweden to East & West Coast USA in WTP (PE) 600/690 (3x Avios)
LHR-Asia/Oz for 1100/1500 on MH
Finnair J, ARN / GOT - BKK, 1150 GBP return (valid till Jan 9th)
TXL and Portugal to JNB for 1350/1450 on BA discussed from post 5021 onwards..

For promos to the US (often, but TP heavy routes in general) it is always a good idea to look at BA Tier Point Runs 2017 master thread. Current sales are often in the Wiki there.
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Old Sep 7, 2016, 3:14 pm
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Has anyone managed to book those AY flights through a travel agent? I've tried twice and no luck (incl Propeller).
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Old Sep 7, 2016, 3:22 pm
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Originally Posted by Charlie26r
Can someone please tell me if the A321(sharklets) JFK-LAX is the often talked about A321T, or something completely different? Tried searching through FT but to no avail.
yes it will be
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Old Sep 7, 2016, 3:25 pm
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Originally Posted by snuffi
yes it will be
Thanks- very grateful.
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Old Sep 7, 2016, 8:49 pm
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Old Sep 8, 2016, 3:19 am
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Originally Posted by Charlie26r
Thanks so much. Looking to plan a trip to connect with PTY run next year and really want to try the 321T and the A380 back- neither of which I've flown before.
Don't forget that if TPs are important, JFK-LAX and JFK-SFO on the A321Ts are 3-class routes, so if you are on an EU-USA Business class fare, you will be sat in Biz not First for the transcon and will only earn 140 TPs instead of 210 for a normal 2-class transcon.
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Old Sep 8, 2016, 3:33 am
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Originally Posted by nufnuf77
FRA-HNL I mention above is for Christmas only, outside of Christmas is 100 extra

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ILN4S4T1    AA       I        Round-Trip  1058.00 (GBP)  B      18/12/15   02/01/17    SU / 12M 14
ILN4S4T1    BA       I        Round-Trip  1058.00 (GBP)  B      18/12/15   02/01/17    SU / 12M 14
ILN4S4Z1    AA       I        Round-Trip  1186.00 (GBP)  B      22/11/16   29/11/16    SU / 12M 14
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                                                                27/03/17   11/04/17
ILN4S4Z1    BA       I        Round-Trip  1186.00 (GBP)  B      22/11/16   29/11/16    SU / 12M 14
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                                                                27/03/17   11/04/17
ZLPR1DE     KL       Z        Round-Trip  1186.00 (GBP)  B      22/11/16   29/11/16    SU / 3M  14
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                                                                27/03/17   11/04/17
IKN4S4T1    AA       I        Round-Trip  1245.00 (GBP)  B      22/11/16   29/11/16    SU / 12M 14
                                                                10/02/17   18/02/17
                                                                19/02/17   31/03/17
                                                                01/04/17   15/04/17
IKN4S4T1    BA       I        Round-Trip  1245.00 (GBP)  B      22/11/16   29/11/16    SU / 12M 14
                                                                10/02/17   18/02/17
                                                                19/02/17   31/03/17
                                                                01/04/17   15/04/17
INN4S4T1    AA       I        Round-Trip  1717.00 (GBP)  B                             SU / 12M 14
INN4S4T1    BA       I        Round-Trip  1717.00 (GBP)  B                             SU / 12M 14
ZPR1DE      KL       Z        Round-Trip  2316.00 (GBP)  B      01/09/16   21/11/16    SU / 3M  14
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ILN8S4C1    AA       I        Round-Trip  2383.00 (GBP)  B      22/11/15   29/11/16    SU / 12M 28
                                                                21/12/15   10/01/17
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ILN8S4C1    BA       I        Round-Trip  2383.00 (GBP)  B      22/11/15   29/11/16    SU / 12M 28
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ZL4LSDE     KL       Z        Round-Trip  2383.00 (GBP)  B      22/11/15   29/11/16    SU / 12M 28
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                                                                27/03/17   11/04/17
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INN9S4E1    AA       I        Round-Trip  2574.00 (GBP)  B                             SU / 12M 90
INN9S4E1    BA       I        Round-Trip  2574.00 (GBP)  B                             SU / 12M 90
Z4LSDE      KL       Z        Round-Trip  2574.00 (GBP)  B                             SU / 12M 90
INN6S4C1    AA       I        Round-Trip  2783.00 (GBP)  B                             SU / 12M 60
INN6S4C1    BA       I        Round-Trip  2783.00 (GBP)  B                             SU / 12M 60
Z2SFDE      KL       Z        Round-Trip  2783.00 (GBP)  B                             SU / 12M 60
I1SFDE      KL       I        Round-Trip  2993.00 (GBP)  B                             V / 12M  28
INN8R4C1    AA       I        Round-Trip  2993.00 (GBP)  B                             V / 12M  28
INN8R4C1    BA       I        Round-Trip  2993.00 (GBP)  B                             V / 12M  28
DNNQ14C3    AA       D        Round-Trip  3077.00 (GBP)  B                             SU / 12M 10
ISFDE       KL       I        Round-Trip  3077.00 (GBP)  B                             SU / 12M 10
RNNQ14C3    BA       R        Round-Trip  3077.00 (GBP)  B                             SU / 12M 10
DNN0Y4C5    AA       D        Round-Trip  3412.00 (GBP)  B                             -- / 12M 
RNN0Y4C5    BA       R        Round-Trip  3412.00 (GBP)  B                             -- / 12M 
DNN0Y4C5    BA       D        Round-Trip  3664.00 (GBP)  B                             -- / 12M 
RNN0Y4C5    AA       R        Round-Trip  3664.00 (GBP)  B                             -- / 12M 
I2FFDE      KL       I        Round-Trip  3714.00 (GBP)  B                                      
DFFDE       KL       D        Round-Trip  3966.00 (GBP)  B                                      
CNN0Y4C5    BA       C        Round-Trip  4334.00 (GBP)  B                             -- / 12M 
CFFDE       KL       C        Round-Trip  4636.00 (GBP)  B                                      
J2ER        BA       J        Round-Trip  4636.00 (GBP)  B                             -- / 12M 
J2N0Y4C5    AA       J        Round-Trip  4636.00 (GBP)  B                             -- / 12M 
J2N0Y4C5    BA       J        Round-Trip  4636.00 (GBP)  B                             -- / 12M 
CIF         YY       C        Round-Trip  5345.00 (GBP)  B                                      
CIFRT2      YY       C        Round-Trip  5345.00 (GBP)  B                                      
JFFDE       KL       J        Round-Trip  5927.00 (GBP)  B                                      
JFFEU       KL       J        Round-Trip  5928.00 (GBP)  B                                      
J1ER        BA       J        Round-Trip  6591.00 (GBP)  B                             -- / 12M 
J1N0Y4C5    AA       J        Round-Trip  6591.00 (GBP)  B                             -- / 12M 
J1N0Y4C5    BA       J        Round-Trip  6591.00 (GBP)  B                             -- / 12M 
J2EO        BA       J        Round-Trip  8030.00 (GBP)  B                             -- / 12M 
J2N0O4C5    AA       J        Round-Trip  8030.00 (GBP)  B                             -- / 12M 
J2N0O4C5    BA       J        Round-Trip  8030.00 (GBP)  B                             -- / 12M 
J1EO        BA       J        Round-Trip  9214.00 (GBP)  B                             -- / 12M 
J1N0O4C5    AA       J        Round-Trip  9214.00 (GBP)  B                             -- / 12M 
J1N0O4C5    BA       J        Round-Trip  9214.00 (GBP)  B                             -- / 12M 
CIFRT       YY       C        Round-Trip  10239.00 (GBP) B                                      
J1FFDE      KL       J        Round-Trip  10286.00 (GBP) B

Have these fares gone already?
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Old Sep 8, 2016, 5:26 am
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Originally Posted by Airprox
Don't forget that if TPs are important, JFK-LAX and JFK-SFO on the A321Ts are 3-class routes, so if you are on an EU-USA Business class fare, you will be sat in Biz not First for the transcon and will only earn 140 TPs instead of 210 for a normal 2-class transcon.
Yeah I did consider that. As the PTY run is already 1220TP then I'm happy to forego some points for a bit more comfort. I may just end up doing as many points as I can to link up to the PTY run and do the comfort option another time.
Thanks for your opinion though 😊
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Old Sep 8, 2016, 6:04 am
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Hi all, with the recent triple avios promotion am I right in thinking a DUB - HNL with a few sectors thrown in would earn a stonking amount of points or does the promotion merely get you to JFK/PHL and then you're on your own?

Anyone with better info on this?

EDIT: I called and it is only on direct flights. Just so everyone knows. Not bad but still not the discount I'm on the hunt for!

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Old Sep 8, 2016, 6:26 am
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Originally Posted by bostonmadeagle
Has anyone managed to book those AY flights through a travel agent? I've tried twice and no luck (incl Propeller).
Not sure which ones you mean exactly but I managed to get DUB-CLT-MCO to price using AY codes on both Expedia and Amex TA but I booked in the end with my bank for an extra 10% off. So 2 adults 2 kids at average 875 pp on the AA A330 J including discount.

However, trying to choose seats has been 'interesting'!
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Old Sep 8, 2016, 7:00 am
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Originally Posted by Airprox
Don't forget that if TPs are important, JFK-LAX and JFK-SFO on the A321Ts are 3-class routes, so if you are on an EU-USA Business class fare, you will be sat in Biz not First for the transcon and will only earn 140 TPs instead of 210 for a normal 2-class transcon.

Just to assist with the decision, can anyone provide feedback on the choice between F on an old LH 767 versus J on the A321T when flying AA?

AS I see it the acceptable ways across the US in AA are the 767 MIA-LAX in F, ( and possibly the 777 MIA-LAX in J?), and the A321T in J.

Can anyone compare/contrast these?

My feedback on the 767 is that while a flat bed is nice and you do get the extra 70TP each way, the lack of direct aisle access and single-aisle config mean that you will inevitably have someone climbing over you or asking you to 'unrecline' your chair, or you will have to clamber over someone, and the flat seat is a little old-fashioned and uncomfortable (worse than CW!!!!) but still way preferable to any 'domestic F' offering in the US.

I have no experience of the A321T - and I'm not certain whether the MIA-LAX 777 is the 77W or another config.

(obviously if the 77W then this is probably the best biz seat around so a great option of the TP points are not needed)
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Old Sep 8, 2016, 7:04 am
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Originally Posted by catharsis
Just to assist with the decision, can anyone provide feedback on the choice between F on an old LH 767 versus J on the A321T when flying AA?

AS I see it the acceptable ways across the US in AA are the 767 MIA-LAX in F, ( and possibly the 777 MIA-LAX in J?), and the A321T in J.

Can anyone compare/contrast these?

My feedback on the 767 is that while a flat bed is nice and you do get the extra 70TP each way, the lack of direct aisle access and single-aisle config mean that you will inevitably have someone climbing over you or asking you to 'unrecline' your chair, or you will have to clamber over someone, and the flat seat is a little old-fashioned and uncomfortable (worse than CW!!!!) but still way preferable to any 'domestic F' offering in the US.

I have no experience of the A321T - and I'm not certain whether the MIA-LAX 777 is the 77W or another config.

(obviously if the 77W then this is probably the best biz seat around so a great option of the TP points are not needed)
Look forward to expert opinions on this catharsis. Lots of options to link up to my PTY run and it's not until next July, so I've lots of options to consider and time for (hopefully) sales to make an appearance. Torn between sacrificing TP'S for the sake of more luxury- although I won't knock domestic F too much.
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Old Sep 8, 2016, 7:28 am
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Originally Posted by catharsis
Just to assist with the decision, can anyone provide feedback on the choice between F on an old LH 767 versus J on the A321T when flying AA?

AS I see it the acceptable ways across the US in AA are the 767 MIA-LAX in F, ( and possibly the 777 MIA-LAX in J?), and the A321T in J.
A321T in J and 772/77W in J are all better and more comfortable than the old 763 F. AA forum has contrasted views on new vs old 763, I tend to prefer the new because of the greater privacy but many find the old more comfortable.

J on A321T or 777s will also get better food as they are treated as premium transcons for food purposes with more choice and better food. That said, all three are perfectly fine for a transcontinental flight.
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Old Sep 8, 2016, 7:57 am
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Originally Posted by orbitmic
A321T in J and 772/77W in J are all better and more comfortable than the old 763 F. AA forum has contrasted views on new vs old 763, I tend to prefer the new because of the greater privacy but many find the old more comfortable.

J on A321T or 777s will also get better food as they are treated as premium transcons for food purposes with more choice and better food. That said, all three are perfectly fine for a transcontinental flight.
Better food but still pretty awful.

Last week I had "chicken and waffles" for breakfast and on the return I had "chicken sliders"

I tried them both but to me that is not food. I'm not sure what the food is like in F but it's definitely for the American market
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Old Sep 8, 2016, 8:17 am
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Originally Posted by ianfly
Better food but still pretty awful.

Last week I had "chicken and waffles" for breakfast and on the return I had "chicken sliders"

I tried them both but to me that is not food. I'm not sure what the food is like in F but it's definitely for the American market
Tobias-UK also reported getting the flight with chicken sliders on transcons which sounds pathetic indeed. For the rest, however, based on my own experience which thankfully avoided that particular menu, I can't agree that the food is pretty awful. I typically find it quite good and like the AA transcon breakfasts much better than the BA ones (even the slightly more generous band 4 ones).

I should also add that the new menus for September look like some of the best to date and correspond to AA introducing their new menus on transcons and international flights (having done so on Hawaii flights already and waiting for them to come on domestics which should be in the Autumn), so from that point of view, I'd say that until those new menus come to domestic, the differential will be even bigger between premium transcons and regular domestics food wise.
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Old Sep 8, 2016, 9:44 am
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Originally Posted by orbitmic
(having done so on Hawaii flights already and waiting for them to come on domestics which should be in the Autumn)
Did I miss a major news story?

Will DUB-HNL no longer be priced as Ireland-USA?
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