Calchas

We appreciate you volunteering like that

What improvements would you suggest?

srbrenna

Just message the mods with any updates. They will apply them quite quickly. Get writing!!

headingwest

Quick question, as the folk here are much quicker than the AA forum.

Would I be able to cancel a booking made on aa.com if a flight was cancelled in the itinerary? I have been rebooked on another flight at a similar time, but it's a different flight number. The trip starts and finishes at TXL, so I assume it was issued from AA in Germany. I know with bookings made through ba.com it wouldn't be a problem, but I'm not sure about American Airlines.

thanks for any info

jerry a. laska

What exactly have you noticed that is out of date? Looking at the individual posts it appears that Prospero made updates this year.

srbrenna

Shouldn't be a problem. AA (I have found) are quite reasonable. You'll have to call though

Dicksbits

Basic stuff like the membership tiers? It still says you receive 100% bonus avios as a Silver member on all flights and also in Gold it says that you can achieve GGL with 2 yrs x 3,000 TP. That's no longer the case.

kyushuman

Not in any rush, my next travel is September 4th.
I'm showing "Bronze Card fulfilled June 14th", though I haven't received it yet as of today (July 17th).

I moved past 600 TPs and the 4 BA flights on July 4th (credited July 8th).
Status not showing Silver online yet either. "Silver Card Expiry July 31st". l am not that concerned that it will happen eventurally,, just seems to be taking longer than those with experience have mentioned.

Is this just a manual thing? Just good to know if I should or shouldn't do anything. What time frame before I call?
Thanks

JohnnyColombia

Trying to get my head around whether O fare class AA tickets between North America and South America do or do not earn TPs and Avios

I am going to be well past qualifying for Gold by the time this arises, so it is mainly out of curiosity, but I have CPH-LHR-MIA-BOG on an AA ticket with CPH-LHR-MIA operated by BA and MIA BOG operated by AA. As such it is in my BA account. I am just trying to get my head around what I am going to earn mainly to understand it.

All are in O fare class

Tier Points first.

CPH LHR is 5TPs
LHR MIA is 20TP

My BA account is saying I will get 30TPs, so I am getting 5 for MIA BOG too?

Secondly Avios

CPH LHR is 609 miles x 25% is 152 Avios
LHR MIA is 4422 miles x 25% is 1106 Avios

Total 1258 Avios

BA account says I will earn 1634 Avios for this itinerary

This can maybe be explained because

1634-1258=376
376=1504 x 25%
1504 is near as damn it the distance between MIA and BOG

So is the BA account right or are my calculations right? I am keen to know because if they earn nothing on BA then I will throw the BOG MIA segment into AA to keep that account alive. Last night I was ever so slightly excited when an economy booking on AA booked into Q for the same price as O but if the BA account is right then this doesn't matter.

Smiley90

MIA-BOG is 1500 miles on lowest-class economy, so 5 TP, yes

if you have Gold, you get a 100% avios bonus, so you get

609*0.25*2 = 305
4422*0.5 = 2211
1507*0.5 = 753

Total: 3269 Avios

Or, without Gold calculated in, 1634 avios.

The avios AND TP earn rate for AA and BA is exactly the same for economy-pricing. So doesn't really matter whether it's an AA or BA flight between MIA and BOG.

EDIT: For reference, for AA miles, you'd earn the exact same between AA and BA flights as well at that category (O)

JohnnyColombia

I mentioned that the itinerary has a couple of BA flights in it to explain how come it is in my BA account, it has a BA PNR. I understand that they earn the same

However, my doubt was that O fare classes between North and Latin America do not earn anything at all according to the AA earning chart on BA and in the tier points chart in this thread in post #5



I just went back to BA and checked that earnings chart again and I see that the O fare class restriction on AA between North and Latin America has disappeared.

Perhaps the comment in the chart can be updated next time it gets a refresh. This O fare restriction between North and Latin America has literally just disappeared within the last couple of weeks.

One additional question since Smiley90 was kind enough to calculate my Gold bonus. I presumed originally that it would be 100% of Avios earned. I was then told that it was 100% of miles flown, Smiley90 has now worked this out as 100% of Avios earned. Which is it?

Smiley90

That's the same thing... Miles flown x class modifier x status modifier

e.g.

4000 miles * 0.25 (O) * 2 (gold)

or am I misunderstanding your question?

JohnnyColombia

Yes, I presumed when joining BAEC that it would be

4000 miles * 0.25 (O) * 2 (gold)

But I was told on here that it is actually

4000 miles * 0.25 (O) +4000 (gold)

Smiley90

the guy might've misunderstood you and said (4000 miles + 4000 miles) *0.25 and/or was ignoring the class modifier

JohnnyColombia

Ii just found it, it was esteemed forum ambassador Calchas himself and there is no indication that there was any misunderstanding

He was actually confirming what the BA Avios calculator had told me

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24949472-post302.html

Smiley90

I take back what I said, his word over mine. I think I got confused by the fact that Economy Lowest in AA is the 50% band which gave me wrong Avios numbers as well. Apologies. The fact that JFK-LHR on BA Gold gives you 3450miles*0.25+3450=4312 avios and not (3450+3450)*0.25=1725 avios confirms that.

So you should be earning
609*0.25+609 = 761
4422*0.25+4422= 5527
1507*0.25+1507 = 1884

Total: 8172 Avios


I think the initial problem on whether O fares on AA earn avios, tp and tier bonuses could've been solved by a quick look on the executive club page as well, though (http://www.britishairways.com/en-ca/...-avios/flights)