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  • from DUB to US IJN8S4Z1 reported here, e.g. JFK - €1,074, MIA - €1,119, LAS - €1,224, LAX - €1,296, HNL - €1,623, needs to be booked by 2 February, for outbound travel over Easter and summer 2016, see linked post for details
  • from DUB to US ILN8S4Z1 reported here, e.g. JFK - €920, MIA - €958, LAS - €1,048, LAX - €1,110, needs to be booked by 2 February, for outbound travel over November and Christmas & New Year 2016, see linked post for details

  • from DUB to US ILR28AP reported here, e.g. JFK - €1,538, MIA - €1,601, LAS - €1,751, LAX - €1,854, HNL - €1,834, this is an advanced purchase fare so no book by deadline, no stopovers, see linked post for details
  • from DUB to US ILN8S4E1 reported here, e.g. JFK - €1,538, MIA - €1,601, LAS - €1,751, LAX - €1,854, HNL - €1,834, this is an advanced purchase fare so no book by deadline, allows stopovers for €75, see linked post for details

  • from CPH to US ILR21AP reported here, e.g. JFK - £890, MIA - £1,132, ORD - £942, LAX - £1,277, HNL - £1,361, this is an advanced purchase fare so no book by deadline, no stopovers, see linked post for details
  • from CPH to US ILN2S4E1 reported here, JFK - £890, MIA - £1,132, ORD - £942, LAX - £1,277, HNL - £1,361, this is an advanced purchase fare so no book by deadline, allows stopovers for €75, see linked post for details

  • ILN2S4Z1 from OSL to HNL (19.5k/21.5k NOK (£1,520/£1,675) via. LON or via. HEL & LON)
    PERMITTED 23NOV 15 THROUGH 28NOV 15 OR 22DEC 15 THROUGH
    01JAN 16 OR 27MAR 16 THROUGH 31MAR 16 ON THE OUTBOUND
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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies

Please note the following:
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Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:

Date fare checked | Price per Tier Point | Total Price | Total Tier Points | Route | Booking Classes | Booking Channel | Credit | Notes (if applicable) | Airlines

Please remember to:
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  • List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.

From Europe
17DEC | £0.75/TP | £909 | 1200 | DUB-LHR-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-DUB | I/I/A/A/A/A/I/I | aa.com | perthflyer | BA AA
30JUL | £0.93/TP | £335 | 360 | JER-LGW-SSH-LGW-JER | J/I/I/J | ba.com | dom462 | CE | BA
01 NOV | £0.99/TP | £1343 | 1360 | CPH-HEL-LHR-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-HEL-CPH | I/I/I/A/P/P/A/I/I/I | ITA Matrix | MrMutton
19 AUG | £1.01/TP | £1,375 (1938 EUR) | 1360 | DUB-HEL-LON-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-HEL-DUB | IIIAAAAIII | OttoMH | J/F | AY BA AA
16 AUG | £1.22/TP | £1,675 (21.5k NOK) | 1360 | OSL-HEL-LON-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-HEL-OSL | IIIAAAAIII | OttoMH | J/F | AY BA AA
16 AUG | £1.27/TP | £1,518 (19.5k NOK) | 1200 | OSL-LON-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-OSL | IIAAAAII | OttoMH | J/F | BA AA
14AUG | £1.31/TP | £470 | 360 | OSL-HEL-AGP-HEL-OSL | I-I-I-I | ITA | Flythe96flag | SH J cabin + possible red-eye (!) | AY
04 SEP | £1.31/TP | £1,220 (1681 EUR) | 910 | DME-MAD-JFK-LAX-MIA-MAD-DME | all in I | iberia.com | henkybaby | J | BA AA IB | works till 6/16 so far
23AUG | £1.34/TP | £1148 | 860 | DUB-PHL-PHX-LAS-PHX-JFK-LHR,LCY-DUB | I/P/P/P/P/I/I | ticketed on aa.com | megaloman | AA & BA (UD on 747 JFK-LHR)
17AUG | £1.67/TP | £1408 |840 |BHX-JFK-PHX-LAS & back | I-A-A-A-A-I | aa.com |Swiss Tony | AA ski slope bed on TATL | AA
26JUL | £1.81/TP | £72.70 | 40 | MAD-FRA | Z | lan.com | Prospero | 787 flat bed | LA
23NOV | £1.89/TP | £377 | 200 | DUB-LHR-MAD-SVQ r/t | I-I-I-I-I-I | ITA | Lorcancoyle | IM0B IB DUB to SVQ | BA and IB flights (I2 for domestic under IB code), random dates in December available, A340 on some dates (helpfully pointed out by Temps that domestic Spain is only 20 TPs)
17 AUG | £1.89/TP | £1818 | 960 | OSL-LON-KUL//SIN-SYD/SYD-PER/PER-SYD-SIN/SIN-LHR-OSL | BugAlugs | J | BA QF | INCSALE ended 14thSep - (Applied GUF via TA (moves J to F on BA longhaul and scores 1260 TPS in total)
31 DEC | £1.91/TP | £1220 | 640 | AMS-LHR-MIA-SCL // EZE-JFK-LHR-BCN | J/I/I-I/I/J | AA.com | nufnuf77 (can also return to LHR for £20 less but 40TP less
13NOV | £2.56/TP | £410 | 160 | LHR-HEL | ? | BA.com | Lorcancoyle | wide open as flight+hotel, can reduce with TCB cash back | BA
1JAN | £1.85/TP | £444 | 240 | JER-LGW/LHR-HEL | J/I/I/J | ITA Matrix | flatlander | Available most weekends first half of 2016, fare IM0R
24NOV | £1.91/TP | £765.00 | 400 | BUD-DOH-SHJ | I/A/I/A | QR.com | Wozza2404 | A320 | QR
7DEC | £2.24/TP | £942 | 420 | MAD-MIA-SXM-CLT-JFK-LHR | I/I/I/A/I | ticketed on aa.com | megaloman | other routings possible earning more TPs could have lower the price with added LHR-CDG leg to £865 (£2.06/TP)
22JAN | £2.29/TP | £640 | 280 | FCO-CMB-FCO | I/I | book on SriLankan website | theultimateflyer

From North, Central and South America
31JUL | £0.39/TP | £484 | 1240 | HNL-LAX-BOS-MIA-BAQ-MIA-PHL-LAX-HNL | AAAIIAAA | ITA Matrix | Pawel Siewko | AA
16OCT | £0.55/TP | £298.50 | 540 | JFK-LAX-DEN-LAX-JFK | P-P-P-P | aa.com | Calum | AA A321t F seat between JFK & LAX (FARE GONE)
16JUL | £0.57/TP | £554 | 980 | LAX-LAS-PHX-PHL-CLT-TPA-MIA-PTY-MIA-PHL-PHX-LAS-LAX | PPPPPPIIPPPP | aa.com | Airprox | AA + US
27JUL | £0.80/TP | £15.94 | 20 | VVC-BOG-MDE | A | lan.com | JohnnyColombia | A is economy on LA | LA
08NOV | £0.84/TP | £772.50 | 920 | KOA-LAX-CLT-SJU-CLT-LAX-KOA | AAIIAA | aa.com | Lappe | Same day turnarounds available
30SEP | £0.87/TP | £808.00 | 920 | BOG-MIA-LAX-HNL-LAX-MIA-BOG | I-P-P-P-P-I | aa.com | JohnnyColombia | No comments
20SEP | £1.00/TP | £663.20 | 660 | LGA-BOS-LAX-PHX-LAX-BOS-LGA | P-P-P-P-P-P | americanairlines.co.uk | njf63 | TCON on 737 so not too comfortable but good availability next Mar/Apr
21AUG | £1.05 | £253 | 240 | BOS-PHL-PIT-PHL-BOS | PPPP | aa.com | Simon Schus | AA op by US
02NOV | £1.27/TP | £1250 | 980 | MCO-MIA-LAX-HNL | A | AA | Mr 1A
05AUG | £1.37/TP | £578 | 420 | LAS-PHL-LAS | A/P | aa.com | Lucanesque | First | AA op by US
28JUL | £1.43/TP | £400 | 280 | SCL-IPC-SCL | Z | lan.com - Chilean version | moonman85 | 787 flat bed | LAN
06NOV | £1.67/TP | £66.00 | 40 | JFK-YYZ | Z | tam.com.br | frb98mf | Fifth Freedom flight every Wed/Fri/Sun, 767 flat bed
13NOV | £1.06/TP | £705 | 660 | RIC-CLT-PHL-PHX-PHL-CLT-RIC | A | AA.com | wenzlydale | 2 trips this year - mixture of A320s and B757s not a lot of food offered but all the G&Ts you could wish for
07JAN|£1.24/TP | £668 | 540 | SEA-MIA-ATL-CLT-SEA | P/P/P/P | aa.com | EsherFlyer | 24h transcon bounce. All I could fit in...

From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
18AUG | £1.25/TP | £440.00 | 360 | BKK-KUL-ICN Return | Z | www.malaysiaairlines.com | Wozza2404 | A330 Angle Flat for long haul sectors | MH
12OCT | £1.68/TP | £1,546 | 920 | TLV-MAD-LHR-JFK-LAX-JFK-LHR-MAD-TLV | I/I/I/I/I/I/I | iberia.com | frb98mf | Business (bonus: A330/A340 on the TLV legs!) | IB
24NOV | £1.43/TP | £803 | 560 | CTS-HKG-DPS-HKG-CTS | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | zeltergiset | One 24hr+ stopover in HKG allowed | CX
06JAN | £1.86/TP | £856 | 460 | HND-HKG-DPS-HKG-CTS | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | Gastrocnemius | One 24hr+ stopover in HKG allowed | CX
11JAN | £1.26/TP | £707 | 560 | KTM-KUL-TPE-KUL-KTM | D/D/D/D | malaysiaairlines.com | zeltergiset | MH
11JAN | £1.68/TP | £940 | 560 | TPE-KUL-KTM-KUL-TPE | D/D/D/D | malaysiaairlines.com | zeltergiset | MH

From Africa
11AUG | £0.89/TP | £748 | 840 | ACC-LHR-MIA-LAX-MIA-LHR-ACC | I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I | iberia call centre | njf63 | CW / AA J | IB
15NOV | £2.00/TP | £1200 | 600 | CPT-DOH-JFK-DOH-CPT | I/I/I/I | QR Website | Calum | QR J on the B788/A350 & 46hrs of flying | QR

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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?

Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. Prospero's guide to using ITA matrix in post 3 (here along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...

For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times

Need 80 TPs or less
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest. AMS and JER easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.

If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year)

Or a slightly more interesting fun run

Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here

Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post (here) MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the last BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and first return Sunday for well under £500.

Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports)

Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VLL via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520
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Old Mar 11, 2015, 4:57 pm
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Originally Posted by PWOZUK
Clues please - fare code/rules ?

I am looking to get to LAS around the 20th October. Do you see the same fare then ?

If anything is available via the baby bus then I'd look to book before the 28th April to get the 210 TP.
It was IL28SALE, but it was not available in October.

There are usually pretty good DUB fares all year round though.

I think the oneworld joint venture is trying to squeeze EI out of existence.
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Old Mar 12, 2015, 12:39 pm
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another attempt at working out LAS strategies, might need to make a trip out at the end of the month, nothing better then £2200, so I'm wondering something else: Flying AA its offering me LHR-JFK-LAS-PHL-LHR in economy for about £580, which is great, but, is there any way to mix travel classes, obviously aiming to fly transatlantic in Y and the domestic legs in F?

AA multicity doesn't give that option
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Old Mar 12, 2015, 12:47 pm
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Originally Posted by aceman
another attempt at working out LAS strategies, might need to make a trip out at the end of the month, nothing better then £2200, so I'm wondering something else: Flying AA its offering me LHR-JFK-LAS-PHL-LHR in economy for about £580, which is great, but, is there any way to mix travel classes, obviously aiming to fly transatlantic in Y and the domestic legs in F?

AA multicity doesn't give that option
Yes you can but you'd have to book by telephone. You will probably find it is easier to book the legs separately.

Domestic F can be quite expensive: you will be paying for the transatlantic and domestic parts as separate journeys, even if you push them all on the same ticket.
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Old Mar 12, 2015, 12:58 pm
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Originally Posted by Calchas
Yes you can but you'd have to book by telephone. You will probably find it is easier to book the legs separately.

Domestic F can be quite expensive: you will be paying for the transatlantic and domestic parts as separate journeys, even if you push them all on the same ticket.
hmmm really not worth it then, rather hoped it would be like £300 more at most!

Even just booking economy JFK-LAS-JFK is about £480, F comes in at £840 unfortunately. Ah well, at least end of june is only £1200 in the baby bus ^
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Old Mar 12, 2015, 1:40 pm
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Originally Posted by aceman
hmmm really not worth it then, rather hoped it would be like £300 more at most!

Even just booking economy JFK-LAS-JFK is about £480, F comes in at £840 unfortunately. Ah well, at least end of june is only £1200 in the baby bus ^
Consider WT+? Then the domestic sectors would book into full Y class and earn 70 points instead of 35 each way.
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Old Mar 13, 2015, 2:48 am
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Originally Posted by Misiu
Hello
Looking for review of planned TP run and your experience on ideas etc
First off I am 1000 points short of maintaining my GGL, and I want to spend a few days in Vegas. So looking to combine the two
Normally I had made GGL with just normal work travel, but been “stranded” in London for the last few months and now need do make it up before then end of the month
Start in AMS, via LCY, to JFK return and then a AA in first return (direct) JFK to LAS
..............
Thank you so much for any help
Leslie
Hi
BA booked my trip from AMS via LCY/JFK to LAS all in one ticket and heading pout next week to do the 1000TP run.
But tis the first time I have done ex-EU ticket thing, and I so a newbie at this. 2 questions

I am on the 4:20pm AMS-LCY flight on Monday (doing LCY-JFK the next morning). There is a 13:05pm LCY to AMS flight, getting in at 15:10pm in AMS
My guess is that its that same plane, but not sure. The point is I don’t want to miss the start of my AMS to LAS run, so do I risk the 1 Hour 10min turn around, or take an earlier flight and hang around AMS for 3 hours?
From what I read in the forums, I need to get my boarding card, for the AMS to LCY run first. Where do I do this? Print at home?
The question is I was not planning on taking my luggage for the Las trip to AMS, and would just want to check that in the next morning in LCY. Will they let me do this if I have checked-in in already and printed boarding pages?

Thank you for the help
Leslie
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Old Mar 13, 2015, 2:56 am
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MCT at CPH

Thinking of booking a TP run/holiday hybrid in the Qatar sale. Am looking at return flights to CPH (QR 163 arriving at 19:00) and wondering if there was sufficient time to connect to the last BA flight of the day (BA 821 leaving at 19:50).

My main concern is whether Qatar would through check my bags to London on a separate ticket. I accept the connection is risky (and I would have to buy a new seat if missed) but:
- My limited experience of Qatar suggests their annoyingly early boarding approach is likely to reduce the probability of delays
- The BA flight towards the end of the day will probably be delayed
- CPH seems to bean easy airport to navigate

Any thoughts?
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Old Mar 13, 2015, 3:00 am
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Speaking of Qatar - there's some interesting propositions with their online upgrade offer (offered ~3 days before the flight). It says if you're crediting to Qatar Privilege Club you receive only the original fare miles/TP. Has anyone ever taken these and credited to BA? Any idea how they credit?
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Old Mar 13, 2015, 11:06 am
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Originally Posted by Misiu
Hi
BA booked my trip from AMS via LCY/JFK to LAS all in one ticket and heading pout next week to do the 1000TP run.
But tis the first time I have done ex-EU ticket thing, and I so a newbie at this. 2 questions

I am on the 4:20pm AMS-LCY flight on Monday (doing LCY-JFK the next morning). There is a 13:05pm LCY to AMS flight, getting in at 15:10pm in AMS
My guess is that its that same plane, but not sure. The point is I don’t want to miss the start of my AMS to LAS run, so do I risk the 1 Hour 10min turn around, or take an earlier flight and hang around AMS for 3 hours?
From what I read in the forums, I need to get my boarding card, for the AMS to LCY run first. Where do I do this? Print at home?
The question is I was not planning on taking my luggage for the Las trip to AMS, and would just want to check that in the next morning in LCY. Will they let me do this if I have checked-in in already and printed boarding pages?

Thank you for the help
Leslie
The B2B Immediate Turnarounds thread tells you what you need to know - you can find it here:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...tinations.html

I've done a same plane turnaround with Hand Baggage Only (HBO) at AMS and it's very straight forward. Coming from London, you arrive non-Schengen, and arriving/departing passengers mix, so you don't need to go anywhere - just wait for the boarding call.

The general feeling is that doing a B2B is safer than arriving on an earlier aircraft. If the inbound aircraft is delayed then the outbound will be delayed as well, whereas a much earlier flight might get cancelled, or delayed so much that you arrive after your return flight departs from AMS. So your LCY-AMS is BA8453 I assume, and your AMS-LCY is BA8454, so this will be the same plane.

With a 1 hour 10 min gap, you might want to head to the lounge - I think it's a new lounge at AMS if memory serves me well. If you want to do that I think all you need to do is go through a simple security check on the way back to the gate.
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Old Mar 14, 2015, 7:56 am
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Cheapest way to get 30TP?

Should I be trying to book before 28th April changes?

Probably should point out, exLHR
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Old Mar 14, 2015, 9:09 am
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Originally Posted by aceman
another attempt at working out LAS strategies, might need to make a trip out at the end of the month, nothing better then £2200, so I'm wondering something else: Flying AA its offering me LHR-JFK-LAS-PHL-LHR in economy for about £580, which is great, but, is there any way to mix travel classes, obviously aiming to fly transatlantic in Y and the domestic legs in F?

AA multicity doesn't give that option
Have you checked WTP from Dublin?
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Old Mar 14, 2015, 10:42 am
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Originally Posted by CocoPops
Cheapest way to get 30TP?

Should I be trying to book before 28th April changes?

Probably should point out, exLHR
SH to EU? Maybe sth like LHR-TXL-ORY/ORY-LHR? At around 170GBP. You probably won't find anything for less than 100GBP, though.
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Old Mar 14, 2015, 3:20 pm
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Originally Posted by billinghamn
The B2B Immediate Turnarounds thread tells you what you need to know - you can find it here:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...tinations.html

I've done a same plane turnaround with Hand Baggage Only (HBO) at AMS and it's very straight forward. Coming from London, you arrive non-Schengen, and arriving/departing passengers mix, so you don't need to go anywhere - just wait for the boarding call.

The general feeling is that doing a B2B is safer than arriving on an earlier aircraft. If the inbound aircraft is delayed then the outbound will be delayed as well, whereas a much earlier flight might get cancelled, or delayed so much that you arrive after your return flight departs from AMS. So your LCY-AMS is BA8453 I assume, and your AMS-LCY is BA8454, so this will be the same plane.
Thank you!

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Old Mar 14, 2015, 3:34 pm
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Originally Posted by CocoPops
Cheapest way to get 30TP?

Should I be trying to book before 28th April changes?

Probably should point out, exLHR
IB to somewhere in Spain LHR-MAD-XYZ 2x10+2x5=30

or

AY/BA to HEL = 2x20
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Old Mar 15, 2015, 3:09 am
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Although not a TP run question, it is related to my forthcoming TP run - which starts a week on Friday. I have searched on FT but not been able to find what I want, even though I am sure I have read it on here. Hoping somebody can help based on their experience, especially as it involves BA2.

Arriving into LCY on Wednesday morning (07:15) and have a departure from T5 at 10:15am. What route would you recommend for the connection? TFL suggests going via HEX and takes just over an hour, whereas underground is slightly longer but cheaper. If underground, would you do the recommended connection via Green Park, or are there easier connections? Will be HBO, to make it easier for getting away from LCY.
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