GGL partner card rules question
Dec 17, 2013, 8:39 pm
#16
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Slightly OT: I understand that the Gold card is a manual input, why is this not the case for Silver?
Dec 17, 2013, 9:06 pm
#17
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Los Angeles
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Many thanks!
Yes, I have done 3500 TPs since May 2013, but I thought I needed 4500 TPs (or was it 5000) for the partner card now?
Last year I did about 7000 in total so I easily qualified.
This membership year I should reach 5000 TPs again but probably not until April or so.
I first made GGL in mid 2012 yep.
But don't the GGL year and the membership year have different start dates? Maybe this is where my information was wrong!
Last year I did about 7000 in total so I easily qualified.
This membership year I should reach 5000 TPs again but probably not until April or so.
I assume you have been GGL since mid-2012?
If you have reached 3,000 TPs again then you will now be GGL till May 2015
Dec 17, 2013, 10:29 pm
#18
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I agree that for the Silver partner card it was fairly instantaneous however for the OH's Gold partner card she has been waiting a little over a week - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...tner-card.html
Slightly OT: I understand that the Gold card is a manual input, why is this not the case for Silver?
Slightly OT: I understand that the Gold card is a manual input, why is this not the case for Silver?
Under the old process (4.5k TP referral) it took typically 2 days. I thought the new process (all GGL referrals since mid Dec 2013) was fully automated for Silver and Gold?
Dec 17, 2013, 10:32 pm
#19
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Many thanks!
Yes, I have done 3500 TPs since May 2013, but I thought I needed 4500 TPs (or was it 5000) for the partner card now?
Last year I did about 7000 in total so I easily qualified.
This membership year I should reach 5000 TPs again but probably not until April or so.
I first made GGL in mid 2012 yep.
But don't the GGL year and the membership year have different start dates? Maybe this is where my information was wrong!
Yes, I have done 3500 TPs since May 2013, but I thought I needed 4500 TPs (or was it 5000) for the partner card now?
Last year I did about 7000 in total so I easily qualified.
This membership year I should reach 5000 TPs again but probably not until April or so.
I first made GGL in mid 2012 yep.
But don't the GGL year and the membership year have different start dates? Maybe this is where my information was wrong!
The GGL year now aligns with the membership year.
Dec 17, 2013, 10:40 pm
#20
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: South Florida
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All my nominees status upgrades occurred within 5 minutes, gold and silver, using the online process.
. I thought this would be enough instead of giving real holiday gifts, but I guess it takes a Flyertalker to recognize the real value of FF status, so I still have to do shopping.
Dec 17, 2013, 11:40 pm
#21
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: London
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Thanks very much.
I was hoping that it will follow the normal membership upgrade pattern rather than synchronising the membership year to the time of membership being gifted, because the intended recipient wants to keep the membership year in synch with her partner if she can. Of course I can get around that by gifting it at the right time but that means delaying gifting it.
I'm sort of surprised that I didn't get more data points for this, considering the number of GGLs here?
Haven't people assigned the card to their family members etc yet?
I was hoping that it will follow the normal membership upgrade pattern rather than synchronising the membership year to the time of membership being gifted, because the intended recipient wants to keep the membership year in synch with her partner if she can. Of course I can get around that by gifting it at the right time but that means delaying gifting it.
I'm sort of surprised that I didn't get more data points for this, considering the number of GGLs here?
Haven't people assigned the card to their family members etc yet?
I have not got around to gifting my cards yet. I wanted to read all the small print although the recent threads have been useful. Have some time away over NY, so will sort out then.
A quick question - my year ends on 9 February - so not far away.
Is it worth gifting now or leave until February? The likely recipients are not travelling until after then, so not an issue for that reason.
Thanks.
Dec 17, 2013, 11:50 pm
#22
Join Date: Oct 2009
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Can one say no to a partner gold card? Imagine a situation where someone is 10 TP away from GGL themselves and someone decides to nominate them for a partner gold card... If I read the T&C correctly, their TPs would then reset if they can't opt out.
Dec 18, 2013, 1:42 am
#23
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Your earnings continue for the membership year you are in.
Also it would be impossible to upgrade someone to Gold who was only 10TP away from GGL. To hit GGL you need a minimum 3k TP's a year over 2 years (until the Eurocheat rules wind down early next year).
To be anywhere close to GGL you would already need to be Gold and thus unable to have your membership upgraded in this way. I don't think you can refuse because of how things are set up but I can see no reason why anyone would want to.
Dec 18, 2013, 1:43 am
#24
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Thanks.
I have not got around to gifting my cards yet. I wanted to read all the small print although the recent threads have been useful. Have some time away over NY, so will sort out then.
A quick question - my year ends on 9 February - so not far away.
Is it worth gifting now or leave until February? The likely recipients are not travelling until after then, so not an issue for that reason.
Thanks.
I have not got around to gifting my cards yet. I wanted to read all the small print although the recent threads have been useful. Have some time away over NY, so will sort out then.
A quick question - my year ends on 9 February - so not far away.
Is it worth gifting now or leave until February? The likely recipients are not travelling until after then, so not an issue for that reason.
Thanks.
Dec 18, 2013, 2:48 am
#25
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Austria (Vbg)
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Not according to the new T&Cs published on ba.com under the Gold Guest List benefits section.
https://www.britishairways.com/en-gb...-list-benefits
https://www.britishairways.com/en-gb...-list-benefits
Q. If I nominate an existing Executive Club Member to receive a Gold or Silver Executive Club partner card - how long will their tier status be valid for?
A. When you successfully nominate an individual who is already a Member of the Executive Club, their account will be updated immediately and their new tier status will remain valid for the remainder of their current membership year, and the full membership year following.
Seems quite clear to me that it follows the usual account upgrade routine and this is also the information I got from the GGL team.
Dec 18, 2013, 3:42 am
#26
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: London, UK
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However, this contradicts the F&Q that are linked in one's GGL-account:
Q. If I nominate an existing Executive Club Member to receive a Gold or Silver Executive Club partner card - how long will their tier status be valid for?
A. When you successfully nominate an individual who is already a Member of the Executive Club, their account will be updated immediately and their new tier status will remain valid for the remainder of their current membership year, and the full membership year following.
Seems quite clear to me that it follows the usual account upgrade routine and this is also the information I got from the GGL team.
Q. If I nominate an existing Executive Club Member to receive a Gold or Silver Executive Club partner card - how long will their tier status be valid for?
A. When you successfully nominate an individual who is already a Member of the Executive Club, their account will be updated immediately and their new tier status will remain valid for the remainder of their current membership year, and the full membership year following.
Seems quite clear to me that it follows the usual account upgrade routine and this is also the information I got from the GGL team.
Dec 18, 2013, 5:43 am
#27
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Dec 28, 2013, 9:10 am
#28
Join Date: Dec 2012
Programs: GGLfL
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Thanks very much.
I was hoping that it will follow the normal membership upgrade pattern rather than synchronising the membership year to the time of membership being gifted, because the intended recipient wants to keep the membership year in synch with her partner if she can. Of course I can get around that by gifting it at the right time but that means delaying gifting it.
I'm sort of surprised that I didn't get more data points for this, considering the number of GGLs here?
Haven't people assigned the card to their family members etc yet?
I was hoping that it will follow the normal membership upgrade pattern rather than synchronising the membership year to the time of membership being gifted, because the intended recipient wants to keep the membership year in synch with her partner if she can. Of course I can get around that by gifting it at the right time but that means delaying gifting it.
I'm sort of surprised that I didn't get more data points for this, considering the number of GGLs here?
Haven't people assigned the card to their family members etc yet?
His renewal date has remained the same (8 March 2014), and his Gold card has an expiry date of 30 April 2014, with the note that he needs a further 730 TPs to remain Gold. If it was following the normal upgrade pattern, his Gold card expiry date would have set as 30 April 2015.
So, unless the Gold status is automatically rolled over for a further year, or unless his membership is re-aligned (it hasn't been yet), his Gold card will only have a 4 month term, unless I re-nominate him next year when my membership/GGL year renews.
Dec 28, 2013, 9:20 am
#29
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Has this happened in the last day or two? If so I wonder if it is worth waiting a few more days to see if this is confirmed? It would be a change to the previous process (and is kind of hinted at in the terms and conditions).
Dec 28, 2013, 10:11 am
#30
Join Date: Dec 2012
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Actually the T&Cs seems to state that his membership year should be realigned with my membership year, and that the Gold Partner card should remain valid for the remainder of his (and my) membership year (which are different) and then through to the end of my next membership year.
8.6. On receipt of a satisfactory application form British Airways shall at its discretion issue to the Nominee a discretionary Silver/Gold Partner Card which will be valid for a minimum of 12 months from the date of issue. The discretionary British Airways Silver/Gold card period shall begin from the date of acceptance by British Airways of the Nominee and last for the remainder of the nominating Member’s membership year, followed by a 12 month period in conjunction with the nominating Member’s membership year.