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BA FLEET: NEW AIRCRAFT ARRIVALS AND RETIREMENTS WIKI
BA are in the mid-stages of a large fleet renewal programme. The new aircraft enabled BA to retire the 767 and 737 Classic fleets with retirement of the 747 fleet and selected 777/A319 aircraft currently in progress.
This Wiki has been divided into:
BA are in the mid-stages of a large fleet renewal programme. The new aircraft enabled BA to retire the 767 and 737 Classic fleets with retirement of the 747 fleet and selected 777/A319 aircraft currently in progress.
This Wiki has been divided into:
- Projected Fleet
- New Arrivals
- Retrofits
- Retirements
- Historical Fleet
(Click on the aircraft type, where there is a link, to go to the relevant details in this wikipost.)
Projected Fleet
This renewal programme, which is being complemented with a cabin refresh for some of the older aircraft, is expected to see the following fleet numbers at year end 2022.
Heathrow Fleet and Gatwick Fleet
Shorthaul
• A319: 9 (38 currently in fleet)
• A320ceo: 67 (67 currently in fleet)
• A320neo: 22 (12 currently in fleet)
• A321ceo: 14 (14 currently in fleet)
• A321neo: 13 (9 currently in fleet)
Midhaul
• A321: 4 (4 currently in fleet)
Longhaul
• A350-1000: 18 (6 currently in fleet)
• A380: 12 (12 currently in fleet)
• B747-400: 12 (30 currently in fleet)
• B777-200ER: 43 (43 currently in fleet)
• B777-300ER: 16 (12 currently in fleet)
• B777-9: 8 (0 currently in fleet)
• B787-8: 12 (12 currently in fleet)
• B787-9: 18 (18 currently in fleet)
• B787-10: 9 (2 currently in fleet)
London City Fleet
Shorthaul
• E170 / E190: 28 (24 currently in fleet)
Longhaul
• A318: 1 (1 currently in fleet)
New Arrivals
Airbus A320ceo: Ten A320ceos were delivered between June 2013 and October 2014, based at LHR. Ten second hand A320ceos were delivered to LGW between December 2014 and August 2016. Details are archived here.
Airbus A320neo: 35 A320neo family aircraft (25 A320s and 10 A321s) were ordered to replace 21 of the older A319 and A320ceos and add extra capacity. Deliveries started in 2018. In May 2019 three A320neos were converted to A321neo bringing the split to 22 A320s and 13 A321s.
G-TTNA - Delivered on 10 Apr 2018
G-TTNB - Delivered on 25 Apr 2018
G-TTNC - Delivered on 07 Jun 2018
G-TTND - Delivered on 26 Jul 2018
G-TTNE - Delivered on 21 Sep 2018
G-TTNF - Delivered on 27 Oct 2018
G-TTNG - Delivered on 29 Nov 2018
G-TTNH - Delivered on 17 Jan 2019
G-TTNI - Delivered on 20 Feb 2019
G-TTNJ - Delivered on 28 Feb 2019
G-TTNK - Delivered on 27 Feb 2020
G-TTNL - Delivered on 09 Mar 2020
G-TTNM - Due in May 2020?
G-TTNN - Due in Jul 2020
G-TTNO - Due in Sep 2020
G-TTNP - Due in 2020
G-TTNR -
G-TTNS -
G-TTNT -
G-TTNU -
G-TTNV -
G-TTNW -
Airbus A321neo:
G-NEOR - Delivered on 23 Nov 2018
G-NEOS - Delivered on 29 Jan 2019
G-NEOT - Delivered on 01 Mar 2019
G-NEOP - Delivered on 27 Mar 2019
G-NEOU - Delivered on 10 May 2019
G-NEOV - Delivered on 30 Aug 2019
G-NEOW - Delivered on 25 Oct 2019
G-NEOX - Delivered on 23 Dec 2019
G-NEOZ - Delivered on 17 Mar 2020
G-NEOY - Due in May 2020?
G-TNEA -
G-TNEB -
G-TNEC -
Airbus A350: BA ordered 18 A350-1000s for delivery between 2019 and 2021. They will all be based at LHR are being delivered as 3-class in a 56J/56W/219Y configuration. Deliveries started in July 2019.
G-XWBA - Delivered on 27 Jul 2019
G-XWBB - Delivered on 19 Sep 2019
G-XWBC - Delivered on 26 Nov 2019
G-XWBD - Delivered on 23 Dec 2019
G-XWBE - Delivered on 12 Feb 2020
G-XWBF - Delivered on 20 May 2020
G-XWBG - Due in Jun 2020
G-XWBH - Due in Jul 2020
G-XWBI - Due in Oct 2020
G-XWBJ - Due in Jan 2021
G-XWBK - Due in Feb 2021
G-XWBL -
G-XWBM -
G-XWBN -
G-XWBO -
G-XWBP -
G-XWBR -
G-XWBS -
Airbus A380: Twelve A380s were delivered between July 2013 and June 2016 and are based at LHR. Details are archived here.
Boeing 777-300ER: Six 777-300ERs were delivered between September 2013 and August 2014 and are based at LHR. Details are archived here. A further three were ordered in November 2018, and a fourth in December 2018. These final four are due to be delivered from Q3 2020.
G-STBM - Due in Jul 2020?
G-STBN - Due in Aug 2020?
G-STBO - Due in 2020
G-STBP - Due in 2020
Boeing 777-9: In February 2019 BA announced an order for 18 Boeing 777-9 aircraft plus 24 options which will be powered by General Electric GE9X engines. Each aircraft will be fitted with 325 seats in a 4-class, 8F/65J/46W/206Y configuration. The 777-9s on order will be used to replace 14 Boeing 747-400 and four Boeing 777-200ER between 2022 and 2025.
Boeing 787-8: Twelve 787-8s were delivered between June 2013 and November 2018 and are based at LHR. Details are archived here.
Boeing 787-9: Eighteen 787-9s were delivered between September 2015 and June 2018 and are based at LHR. Details are archived here.
Boeing 787-10: BA has 12 787-10s on order to be delivered between 2020 and 2023: Each aircraft will be fitted with 256 seats in a 4 class 8F/48J/35W/165Y configuration.
G-ZBLA - Due 24th May 2020
G-ZBLB - Due in Jun 2020
G-ZBLC - Due in Aug 2020
G-ZBLD - Due in 2020
G-ZBLE - Due in 2020
G-ZBLF - Due in 2020
G-ZBLG - Due in 2021
G-ZBLH - Due in 2021
G-ZBLI - Due in 2022
G-ZBLJ - Due in 2023
G-ZBLK - Due in 2023
G-ZBLL - Due in 2023
Embraer 190: Three more new Embraer 190s were delivered in May 2014 and September 2014. Details are archived here. Seven second hand aircraft have since been sourced. Two more are due in 2020.
G-LCYV - Delivered on 19 Dec 2015
G-LCYW - Delivered on 25 May 2016
G-LCYX - Delivered on 10 Jul 2016
G-LCYY - Delivered on 22 Dec 2017
G-LCYZ - Delivered on 17 May 2018
G-LCAA - Delivered on 23 May 2019
G-LCAB - Delivered on 21 July 2019
G-LCAC - Due into service June 2020 (currently at WAW)
G-LCAD - Due in June / July 2020? (currently at CAN)
G-LCAE
G-LCAF
G-LCAG
G-LCAH
Retrofits
A320ceo:
The A320ceos currently based at LHR are being reconfigured from CY168 to CY180. These feature Pinnacle seats throughout and still have tables in CE, (unlike the A320neos).
There are currently 55 completed.
Completed (CY180):
G-EUUA/D/E/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/N/O/P/R/S/T/U/V/W/X/Y/Z
G-EUYA/B/C/D/E/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/N/O/P/R/S/T/U/V/W/X/Y
G-MEDK
G-MIDO/S/T/X/Y
G-TTOB/E
The following aircraft are currently undergoing cabin refit at Madrid:
G-EUUB/C
A321ceo (Completed):
All 14 shorthaul frames have now been reconfigured from a CY205 to a CY218. These feature Pinnacle seats throughout and still have tables in CE (unlike the A321neos). The four midhaul frames remain unchanged in a 23J/131Y layout.
Boeing 777-200ER:
For full details on the complete refit plan of the 777s, see the following detailed thread: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...8-onwards.html
LGW Cabin retrofit of 777-200ERs with 10-across economy seating and upgraded Panasonic IFE. These do notfeature the new Club World seat. This commenced in January 2018.
There are currently 14 completed.
Completed (32J/52W/252Y): G-VIIO/P/R/T/U/X
Completed (32J/48W/252Y): G-YMMB/C/D/E/F
Completed (14F/48J/40W/136Y): G-VIIV/W/Y
The following aircraft are currently undergoing cabin refit at
Cardiff:
None
LHR Cabin retrofit of 777-200ERs with 10-across economy seating and upgraded Panasonic IFE. These feature the new Club World seat. This commenced in August 2019.
There are currently 6 completed.
Completed (8F/49J/40W/138Y): G-VIIB/K/L/M/N, G-RAES
The following aircraft are currently undergoing cabin refit at Cardiff
G-VIIF - Arrived at CWL on 14 April
G-VIIA - Arrived at CWL on 25 April
Boeing 777-300ER:
Cabin retrofit to commence in October 2020 in an 8F/76J/40W/130Y configuration with the new Club World seat.
Retirement
With all the new arrivals there are also some much loved/hated (*delete as applicable) older aircraft heading for scrapping. Until 2015 most of these ended up in Victorville (VCV) in California for storage and ultimately part out for scrap. Since then most ex-BA planes have been sent to St Athan (DGX) in Wales for scrapping. Recent 747 retirements have been to Kemble (GBA) in England for scrapping.
Airbus A319:
G-DBCI - Retired to MAD on 07 Mar 2018
G-EUPV - Retired to DGX on 01 Nov 2018
G-EUOH - Retired to DGX on 05 Sep 2019
G-EUPX - Retired to DGX on 07 Sep 2019
G-EUOI - Retired to DGX on 04 Nov 2019
G-EUPE - Retired to DGX on 11 Mar 2020
G-EUOC - Retired to DGX on 11 Mar 2020
G-EUOD - Retired to DGX on 11 Mar 2020
G-EUOB - Retired to DGX on 16 Mar 2020
The next to be retired (subject to change) are:
G-EUPA - Due to be withdrawn in Sep 2020
G-EUPC - Due to be withdrawn in Nov 2020
G-EUPB - Due to be withdrawn in Oct 2021
G-EUPF - Due to be withdrawn in Nov 2021
G-EUPH - Due to be withdrawn in Nov 2021
G-EUPJ - Due to be withdrawn in Nov 2021
G-EUPK - Due to be withdrawn in Aug 2022
G-EUOE - Due to be withdrawn in Oct 2022
G-EUOF - Due to be withdrawn in Oct 2022
Airbus A320:
G-TTOB - Due to be withdrawn in Feb 2022
Boeing 747-400: As of 27 April 2020, 29 747-400s have been retired from the original fleet of 57, leaving 30 aircraft in service. Of those remaining, 17 are "super high-J" aircraft (14F / 86J / 30W / 145Y). (Cabin refresh dates here). The remaining 11 aircraft are "mid-J" aircraft. (14F / 52J / 36W / 235Y). (Cabin refresh dates here). All remaining aircraft have been refurbished.
The current plan is for all aircraft to be retired by February 2024. According to the Capital Markets Day presentation in November 2019, BA plan to have the following amount of 747s in the fleet at year end:
- 2020: 25 aircraft
- 2021: 20 aircraft
- 2022: 12 aircraft
- 2023: 3 aircraft
Since then the following have been retired:
G-BNLN - Retired to DGX on 24 Jun 2019
G-CIVG - Retired to DGX on 25 Nov 2019
G-CIVM - Retired to DGX on 16 Mar 2020
G-CIVL - Retired to GBA 14 Apr 2020
G-CIVJ - Retired to GBA 15 Apr 2020
G-CIVN - Retired to GBA on 16 Apr 2020
For a further analysis of the fleet and retirement plans: see Globaliser's tracker.
The last known planned dates of the next retirements were as follows (but should all be regarded as subject to change). All the retirements will be of the "mid-J" configuration unless stated otherwise.
G-CIVI - Due to be retired in Apr 2020 [super high-J]
G-CIVD - Due to be retired in May 2020
G-CIVH - Due to be retired in Jun 2020 [super high-J]
G-CIVK - Due to be retired in Jan 2021
G-CIVF - Due to be retired in Jun 2021 [super high-J]
G-CIVB - Due to be retired in 2022
G-CIVC - Due to be retired in Nov 2022
G-CIVE - Due to be retired in Nov 2022
G-BYGC - Due to be retired in 2023 [super high-J]
G-BNLY - Due to be retired in 2023
Boeing 777-200:
G-ZZZC - Retired to DGX on 13 Jan 2020
G-ZZZA - Due to be retired in Sep 2020 [potential early retirement - stored at LHR 19 Mar 2020]
G-ZZZB - Due to be retired in Oct 2020 [potential early retirement - stored at LHR 20 Mar 2020]
Embraer 170:
G-LCYE - Retired to WAW on 07 May 2020
Historical Fleet
Boeing 737: The last remaining 737 was retired in Oct 2015. Details are archived here.
Boeing 767: The last remaining 767 was retired in Nov 2018. Details are archived here.
BA Fleet : New aircraft arrivals and retirements master tracker
Sep 13, 2016, 3:16 am
#1682
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9 is the whole Gatwick 772 fleet?
Sep 13, 2016, 3:21 am
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Sep 28, 2016, 1:47 am
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The BA Source reports that G-ZBKO, 787-9 number 15, was flown from PAE to LHR last night.
Or, more accurately, is still being flown from PAE to LHR as she is currently near Oxford.
Or, more accurately, is still being flown from PAE to LHR as she is currently near Oxford.
Sep 28, 2016, 2:49 am
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Which means G-BNLJ will get the chop in a few days once ZBKO enters service.
Champ
Champ
Sep 28, 2016, 3:31 am
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9 is the number of gatwick 772 fleet without first class according to http://www.thebasource.com/boeing777-200er.html
john
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Oct 1, 2016, 7:49 am
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Nov 29, 2016, 3:53 pm
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In catching up with an update to the 744 tracker post, I noticed that:-
- G-BNLJ was retired to TEV in short order after her withdrawal;
- G-BNLY's retirement has been delayed from November 2016 to March 2017; and
- there has been some reshuffling of the order of retirements in the September 2018 to March 2019 period, but the same aircraft are involved.
Dec 6, 2016, 3:30 am
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Note: This post has been superseded. See https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30493813-post2742.html.
This post supersedes http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/25318076-post1200.html.
Updated list of active 744s:-
* Mid-J aircraft with refreshed premium economy and economy cabins and Panasonic IFE.
+ Mid-J aircraft with refreshed premium economy and economy cabins.
[W] indicates aircraft fitted with wifi.
Current overall figures:-Forthcoming retirements (see note 3):-
Retired aircraft:-
Aircraft whose registrations are in italics are noted on the CAA website to have been formally de-registered.
Alphabetical summary:-
Notes:-
This post supersedes http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/25318076-post1200.html.
Updated list of active 744s:-
Code:
Aircraft Delivery Hours Retirement (see note 3)
G-BNLP mid 17.12.1990 120,443 at 05.09.2018 12.2018
G-BNLK mid 25.05.1990 120,327 at 22.05.2018 11.2018
G-BNLN mid 27.07.1990 119,294 at 28.06.2018 07.2019
G-CIVA mid 22.03.1993 115,714 at 12.03.2018
G-BNLY mid 10.02.1993 113,522 at 09.02.2018
G-CIVC mid 26.02.1994 111,480 at 07.02.2018 11.2022
G-CIVE mid 20.12.1994 110,012 at 16.08.2018 11.2022
G-CIVB mid 15.02.1994 108,391 at 16.01.2018 11.2019
G-CIVD mid+ 14.12.1994 107,669 at 26.07.2018 05.2020
G-CIVJ mid 11.02.1997 99,769 at 16.08.2018
G-CIVK mid+ 28.02.1997 98,937 at 07.08.2018 11.2020
G-CIVN mid+ 29.09.1997 98,921 at 03.09.2018 02.2021
G-CIVL mid 28.03.1997 95,870 at 10.11.2017 11.2020
G-CIVF s-hi 29.03.1995 95,832 at 13.09.2018 06.2021
G-CIVG s-hi 20.04.1995 95,425 at 21.12.2017 11.2019
G-CIVH s-hi 23.04.1996 93,386 at 30.03.2018 06.2020 [W]
G-CIVP mid 17.02.1998 93,219 at 23.01.2018
G-CIVI s-hi 02.05.1996 92,309 at 17.04.2018 09.2020
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G-CIVT mid* 20.03.1998 92,132 at 01.11.2017
G-CIVM mid+ 05.06.1997 92,065 at 29.05.2018 01.2021
G-CIVU mid 24.04.1998 91,374 at 22.03.2018
G-CIVO mid* 05.12.1997 90,513 at 05.10.2018
G-CIVX s-hi 03.09.1998 86,022 at 26.07.2018 [W]
G-CIVS s-hi 13.03.1998 85,612 at 15.02.2018 [W]
G-CIVV s-hi 22.05.1998 85,234 at 19.03.2018 [W]
G-CIVZ s-hi 31.10.1998 84,973 at 17.09.2018 [W]
G-BYGB s-hi 17.01.1999 83,439 at 11.06.2018 [W]
G-CIVR s-hi 02.03.1998 83,404 at 16.01.2018 [W]
G-BYGC s-hi 19.01.1999 83,308 at 23.05.2018 [W]
G-CIVY s-hi 29.09.1998 83,042 at 05.08.2018 [W]
G-CIVW s-hi 15.05.1998 82,273 at 20.03.2018 [W]
G-BYGF s-hi 17.02.1999 81,773 at 07.02.2018 [W]
G-BYGG s-hi 29.04.1999 81,264 at 05.03.2018 [W]
G-BYGA s-hi 14.12.1998 80,252 at 21.11.2017 [W]
G-BYGD s-hi 26.01.1999 80,162 at 04.10.2017 [W]
G-BYGE s-hi 05.02.1999 79,543 at 16.01.2018 [W]
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+ Mid-J aircraft with refreshed premium economy and economy cabins.
[W] indicates aircraft fitted with wifi.
Current overall figures:-Forthcoming retirements (see note 3):-
Code:
G-BNLK mid 25.05.1990 11.2018
G-BNLP mid 17.12.1990 12.2018
G-BNLN mid 27.07.1990 07.2019
G-CIVB s-hi 15.02.1994 11.2019
G-CIVG s-hi 20.04.1995 11.2019
G-CIVD mid+ 14.12.1994 05.2020
G-CIVH s-hi 23.04.1996 06.2020
G-CIVI s-hi 02.05.1996 09.2020
G-CIVK mid+ 28.02.1997 11.2020
G-CIVL mid 28.03.1997 11.2020
G-CIVM mid+ 05.06.1997 01.2021
G-CIVN mid+ 29.09.1997 02.2021
G-CIVF s-hi 29.03.1995 06.2021
G-CIVC mid 26.02.1994 11.2022
G-CIVE mid 20.12.1994 11.2022
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Code:
Aircraft Delivery Hours
G-BNLA 30.06.1989 85,031 at 31.12.2008 [Retired to VCV 11.2009]
G-BNLB 31.07.1989 79,497 at 31.12.2007 [Retired to CWL 11.2011]
G-BNLC 21.07.1989 81,572 at 31.12.2007 [Retired to CWL 11.2011]
G-BNLD 05.09.1989 86,821 at 31.12.2008 [Retired to VCV 02.2010]
G-BNLE 15.11.1989 101,049 at 31.12.2013 [Retired to VCV 11.2014]
G-BNLF 28.02.1990 110,794 at 31.12.2014 [Retired to TEV 05.2016]
G-BNLG 27.02.1990 97,655 at 31.12.2013 [Retired to VCV 12.2014]
G-BNLH 28.03.1990 87,048 at 31.12.2008 [Retired to VCV 10.2009]
G-BNLI 21.04.1990 110,675 at 31.12.2013 [Retired to VCV 08.2014]
G-BNLJ 23.05.1990 118,985 at 10.05.2016 [Retired to TEV 10.2016]
G-BNLL 14.06.1990 106,615 at 31.12.2012 [Retired at JNB 04.2014]
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G-BNLM 28.06.1990 105,486 at 31.12.2012 [Retired to VCV 11.2013]
G-BNLO 25.10.1990 113,171 at 30.09.2016 [Retired to TEV 03.2017]
G-BNLR 15.01.1991 106,880 at 31.12.2013 [Retired to VCV 01.2014]
G-BNLS 13.03.1991 98,728 at 31.12.2013 [Retired to VCV 05.2014]
G-BNLT 19.03.1991 93,968 at 31.12.2012 [Retired to VCV 04.2014]
G-BNLU 28.01.1992 94,026 at 31.12.2013 [Retired to VCV 11.2014]
G-BNLV 20.02.1992 98,965 at 31.12.2014 [Retired to TEV 08.2016]
G-BNLW 05.03.1992 104,539 at 31.12.2014 [Retired to GBA 12.2015]
G-BNLX 03.04.1992 102,714 at 31.12.2014 [Retired to DGX 02.2016]
G-BNLZ 04.03.1993 94,847 at 31.12.2014 [Retired to GBA 05.2015]
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Alphabetical summary:-
Code:
G-BNLA WFU (VCV) | G-CIVE mid
G-BNLB WFU (CWL) | G-CIVF s-hi
G-BNLC WFU (CWL) | G-CIVG s-hi
G-BNLD WFU (VCV) | G-CIVH s-hi [W]
G-BNLE WFU (VCV) | G-CIVI s-hi
G-BNLF WFU (TEV) | G-CIVJ mid
G-BNLG WFU (VCV) | G-CIVK mid+
G-BNLH WFU (VCV) | G-CIVL mid
G-BNLI WFU (VCV) | G-CIVM mid+
G-BNLJ WFU (TEV) | G-CIVN mid+
G-BNLK mid | G-CIVO mid*
G-BNLL WFU (JNB) | G-CIVP mid
G-BNLM WFU (VCV) | G-CIVR s-hi [W]
G-BNLN mid | G-CIVS s-hi [W]
G-BNLO WFU (TEV) | G-CIVT mid*
G-BNLP mid | G-CIVU mid
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Code:
G-BNLR WFU (VCV) | G-CIVV s-hi [W]
G-BNLS WFU (VCV) | G-CIVW s-hi [W]
G-BNLT WFU (VCV) | G-CIVX s-hi [W]
G-BNLU WFU (VCV) | G-CIVY s-hi [W]
G-BNLV WFU (TEV) | G-CIVZ s-hi [W]
G-BNLW WFU (GBA) | G-BYGA s-hi [W]
G-BNLX WFU (DGX) | G-BYGB s-hi [W]
G-BNLY mid | G-BYGC s-hi [W]
G-BNLZ WFU (GBA) | G-BYGD s-hi [W]
G-CIVA mid | G-BYGE s-hi [W]
G-CIVB mid | G-BYGF s-hi [W]
G-CIVC mid | G-BYGG s-hi [W]
G-CIVD mid+ |
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Last edited by Globaliser; Dec 3, 2018 at 8:57 am Reason: Last change: post superseded
Dec 6, 2016, 4:36 am
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So G-BNLO will hit 28.5yrs of service before retirement!
That must be nearing the longest in service time for a B744?
I was actually on BNLO last week from JFK - not sure any of those mid-J's should be held onto for much longer when you compare them with the refreshed Super-Hi-J fleet!
Thanks for the update Globaliser.
We have 1 B789 due for delivery this month I believe?
Pilot37
That must be nearing the longest in service time for a B744?
I was actually on BNLO last week from JFK - not sure any of those mid-J's should be held onto for much longer when you compare them with the refreshed Super-Hi-J fleet!
Thanks for the update Globaliser.
We have 1 B789 due for delivery this month I believe?
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Dec 6, 2016, 6:40 am
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Dec 6, 2016, 7:04 am
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Was G-BNLO ever in storage for an extended period of time? It clearly has the most hours currently and if rotations are about equal, trying to figure out why it's scheduled to be the last of the lot being retired when it is the oldest frame.
Dec 6, 2016, 7:22 am
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One guess (although it's no more than that) is that she has had an extra (compared to the other aircraft at the top of the retirements list) maintenance check done at some stage which prolongs her life. The planned retirement dates may possibly have as a factor the time when each aircraft is next due for some major check, so that withdrawal and retirement at that point avoids the cost of having to do the next check. But if a particular aircraft has had a major check, BA would understandably want to keep her in service for as long as possible after that rather than spend all that money and then withdraw the aircraft soon thereafter.
The same query is in my mind about G-CIVA. After she refused to take me to JNB in October, she was fixed in a couple of days and operated a few more rotations, but then went to CWL on 4 November where she is still. It's notable that she is the oldest and highest-time aircraft that is not yet in the list of planned retirements, and I have been wondering whether she is undergoing a heavy check at CWL at the moment.
Dec 6, 2016, 7:50 am
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Thanks Globaliser. I did find this article, albeit a little dated as its 4 year old. But it does give some insight to the checks that BA does.
Inside A British Airways Boeing 747-436 D-Check
November 17, 2012 by flyingfish — Leave A Comment
All aircraft undergo routine maintenance checks at specific life cycle intervals, these checks range from a light A-Check through a heavy D-Check.
An A-Check for a commercial aircraft is typically performed around 800 flight hour cycle and often conducted during an overnight layover at an airport, requiring 20 man-hours maintenance. The B-Check is conducted approximately every six months, requiring two or three days in a hangar and 150 man-hours of maintenance. C-Checks are more comprehensive maintenance checks, required every 16-to-20 months of flight service, requiring a complete inspection of the entire aircraft, typically requiring more than a week of maintenance and at times more than 5,000 man hours of maintenance.
The most extensive maintenance check is the D-check. The D-Check is a heavy maintenance check and must be undertaken roughly every five years. During a D-Check, an aircraft is completely torn down for overhaul, taking an aircraft out of service for a month, or longer, requiring approximately 40,000 man hours of maintenance.
So … what does a D-Check look like for a Jumbo Jet? The video below is a one-hour look inside the process of a British Airways Boeing 747-436 undergoing a D-check, explained in non-technical jargon, making it idea for adults and children alike.
Put your feet up, call the kids around and enjoy a look inside the complex process of overhauling The Queen Of The Skies.
Happy Flying!
@flyingwithfish
Inside A British Airways Boeing 747-436 D-Check
November 17, 2012 by flyingfish — Leave A Comment
All aircraft undergo routine maintenance checks at specific life cycle intervals, these checks range from a light A-Check through a heavy D-Check.
An A-Check for a commercial aircraft is typically performed around 800 flight hour cycle and often conducted during an overnight layover at an airport, requiring 20 man-hours maintenance. The B-Check is conducted approximately every six months, requiring two or three days in a hangar and 150 man-hours of maintenance. C-Checks are more comprehensive maintenance checks, required every 16-to-20 months of flight service, requiring a complete inspection of the entire aircraft, typically requiring more than a week of maintenance and at times more than 5,000 man hours of maintenance.
The most extensive maintenance check is the D-check. The D-Check is a heavy maintenance check and must be undertaken roughly every five years. During a D-Check, an aircraft is completely torn down for overhaul, taking an aircraft out of service for a month, or longer, requiring approximately 40,000 man hours of maintenance.
So … what does a D-Check look like for a Jumbo Jet? The video below is a one-hour look inside the process of a British Airways Boeing 747-436 undergoing a D-check, explained in non-technical jargon, making it idea for adults and children alike.
Put your feet up, call the kids around and enjoy a look inside the complex process of overhauling The Queen Of The Skies.
Happy Flying!
@flyingwithfish
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