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Lucrative runs that have been reported under £3/TP - current availability not guaranteed
Route | Booking class | Fare | Booking channel | TPs | £/TP | credit
American Airlines
SFO-LAX-MIA-CUN | A/A/I | £498 return | aa.com | 620 TPs | £0.80/TP | chris1979
ORD-STL-DFW-SJU | A/A/I | £458 return | aa.com | 520 TPs | £0.88/TP | timezonehopper
SFO-LAX-MIA-CUN-MIA-LAX-LAS | A/A/I/I/A/A | £581 round trip | aa.com | 620 TPs | £0.94/TP | courtster
AMS-LHR-LAX-SFO-JFK-LHR-AMS | I/I/A/A/I/I | £1641 round trip | aa.com | 630 TPs | £2.60/TP | mccorry
IST-LHR/LCY-JFK-EZE-MIA-LHR-IST | I/I/I/I/I/I | £2106 round trip | aa.com | 790TPs | £2.61/TP | nth_utsera_sth_utsera
45 day advance purchase required, minimum stay 7 days.
British Airways
LGW-MLA | R | £248 return | ba.com | 160 TPs | £1.55/TP | LDNConsultant
LGW-RAK | R | £280 return | ba.com | 160 TPs | £1.75/TP | mfgr
Book by 31/12/13 for this price.
JER-LGW-AMS | J/R | £259 return | ba.com | 160 TPs | £1.62/TP | joejet
LGW-JER | R | £181 return | ba.com | 80 TPs | £2.26/TP
LGW-AMS | R | £199 return | ba.com | 80 TPs | £2.49/TP
BRU-LHR//LCY-JFK-SEA (last bit on AA) and back | I/I/A | £1,529 return | probably have to phone up | 920 TPs | £1.66/TP | stifle
Outbound 12/4-27/4 or 25/6-24/8, min stay Sat night, ticket by 2/1/14
Royal Jordanian
BEY-AMM-AQJ | D | £255 return | rj.com | 160 TPs | £1.59/TP | DeanB
Malaysia Airlines
SIN-KUL-KCH | D | S$660 return | malaysiaairlines.com | 160 TPs | £2.12/TP |HPN-HRL
DEL-KUL-BKK | Z | INR41,666 return |malaysiaairlines.com | 360TPs| £1.15/TP| Seshy
DEL-KUL-NRT | Z | INR92,395 return |malaysiaairlines.com | 560TPs| £1.64/TP| Seshy
ICN-KUL-SYD/MEL | Z | KRW1,582,600 return |malaysiaairlines.com | 560TPs| £1.65/TP| armagebedar
SIN-KUL-DXB | Z | S$1084 return | malaysiaairlines.com | 360 TPs | £1.50/TP | qasr (+long haul equipment on KUL-DXB)
SIN-KUL-TPE | Z | S$1078 return | malaysiaairlines.com | 360 TPs | £1.49/TP | qasr
SIN-KUL-DEL | Z | S$1018 return | malaysiaairlines.com | 360 TPs | £1.41/TP | qasr
SIN-KUL-KTM | Z | S$1006 return | malaysiaairlines.com | 360 TPs | £1.39/TP | qasr
Qatar Airways
CAI-DOH-BKK | £759 return | D/D/D/A | 360 TPs | £2.10/TP ExpatSomchai
DME-DOH-SGN | I | £1255 return | qatarairways.com | 560 TPs | £2.25/TP |continentalclub
Lucrative runs that have been reported under £3/TP - current availability not guaranteed
Route | Booking class | Fare | Booking channel | TPs | £/TP | credit
American Airlines
SFO-LAX-MIA-CUN | A/A/I | £498 return | aa.com | 620 TPs | £0.80/TP | chris1979
ORD-STL-DFW-SJU | A/A/I | £458 return | aa.com | 520 TPs | £0.88/TP | timezonehopper
SFO-LAX-MIA-CUN-MIA-LAX-LAS | A/A/I/I/A/A | £581 round trip | aa.com | 620 TPs | £0.94/TP | courtster
AMS-LHR-LAX-SFO-JFK-LHR-AMS | I/I/A/A/I/I | £1641 round trip | aa.com | 630 TPs | £2.60/TP | mccorry
IST-LHR/LCY-JFK-EZE-MIA-LHR-IST | I/I/I/I/I/I | £2106 round trip | aa.com | 790TPs | £2.61/TP | nth_utsera_sth_utsera
45 day advance purchase required, minimum stay 7 days.
British Airways
LGW-MLA | R | £248 return | ba.com | 160 TPs | £1.55/TP | LDNConsultant
LGW-RAK | R | £280 return | ba.com | 160 TPs | £1.75/TP | mfgr
Book by 31/12/13 for this price.
JER-LGW-AMS | J/R | £259 return | ba.com | 160 TPs | £1.62/TP | joejet
LGW-JER | R | £181 return | ba.com | 80 TPs | £2.26/TP
LGW-AMS | R | £199 return | ba.com | 80 TPs | £2.49/TP
BRU-LHR//LCY-JFK-SEA (last bit on AA) and back | I/I/A | £1,529 return | probably have to phone up | 920 TPs | £1.66/TP | stifle
Outbound 12/4-27/4 or 25/6-24/8, min stay Sat night, ticket by 2/1/14
Royal Jordanian
BEY-AMM-AQJ | D | £255 return | rj.com | 160 TPs | £1.59/TP | DeanB
Malaysia Airlines
SIN-KUL-KCH | D | S$660 return | malaysiaairlines.com | 160 TPs | £2.12/TP |HPN-HRL
DEL-KUL-BKK | Z | INR41,666 return |malaysiaairlines.com | 360TPs| £1.15/TP| Seshy
DEL-KUL-NRT | Z | INR92,395 return |malaysiaairlines.com | 560TPs| £1.64/TP| Seshy
ICN-KUL-SYD/MEL | Z | KRW1,582,600 return |malaysiaairlines.com | 560TPs| £1.65/TP| armagebedar
SIN-KUL-DXB | Z | S$1084 return | malaysiaairlines.com | 360 TPs | £1.50/TP | qasr (+long haul equipment on KUL-DXB)
SIN-KUL-TPE | Z | S$1078 return | malaysiaairlines.com | 360 TPs | £1.49/TP | qasr
SIN-KUL-DEL | Z | S$1018 return | malaysiaairlines.com | 360 TPs | £1.41/TP | qasr
SIN-KUL-KTM | Z | S$1006 return | malaysiaairlines.com | 360 TPs | £1.39/TP | qasr
Qatar Airways
CAI-DOH-BKK | £759 return | D/D/D/A | 360 TPs | £2.10/TP ExpatSomchai
DME-DOH-SGN | I | £1255 return | qatarairways.com | 560 TPs | £2.25/TP |continentalclub
BA Tier Point runs | 2013 master thread
Jan 15, 2013, 1:08 pm
#226
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angatol Thank you very much for that info. That one post has been the single best information on how to use the matrix I have seen.^^^
Jan 15, 2013, 1:18 pm
#227
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This is well worth a read if you're interested in what Matrix is doing: http://www.demarcken.org/carl/papers...xity-notes.pdf.
Jan 15, 2013, 1:26 pm
#228
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I think there are lots of better guides out there!
This is well worth a read if you're interested in what Matrix is doing: http://www.demarcken.org/carl/papers...xity-notes.pdf.
This is well worth a read if you're interested in what Matrix is doing: http://www.demarcken.org/carl/papers...xity-notes.pdf.
Jan 15, 2013, 1:46 pm
#229
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Location: Los Angeles
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This is a great thread, thanks for that!
I have two questions:
1) Does anybody know a good run ex-US to Europe? I am in LA and need to be in Germany on May 24th for a couple of days. Would love to fly J, but the fares are very high.
2) Has anyone have experiences with booking several segments, but using them only partly? For example, LAX-JFK-SJU costs around $500, LAX-JFK alone almost twice as much. What if I only fly to JFK and let the JFK-SJU segment expire? Without checked baggage, of course!
I have two questions:
1) Does anybody know a good run ex-US to Europe? I am in LA and need to be in Germany on May 24th for a couple of days. Would love to fly J, but the fares are very high.
2) Has anyone have experiences with booking several segments, but using them only partly? For example, LAX-JFK-SJU costs around $500, LAX-JFK alone almost twice as much. What if I only fly to JFK and let the JFK-SJU segment expire? Without checked baggage, of course!
Jan 15, 2013, 1:54 pm
#230
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I'm sure most of you guys know this but, just in case some newer members don't, remember this:
The AA forum has a thread with a list of discount codes for travel on roundtrip flights to most US cities that AA services.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...12-onward.html
Admittedly these will work for round trips only so not helpful for multi-city itineraries (which I realise most tier point runs are) but they may be useful for positioning flights if using AA metal.
The AA forum has a thread with a list of discount codes for travel on roundtrip flights to most US cities that AA services.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...12-onward.html
Admittedly these will work for round trips only so not helpful for multi-city itineraries (which I realise most tier point runs are) but they may be useful for positioning flights if using AA metal.
Jan 15, 2013, 2:13 pm
#231
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The AA forum has a thread with a list of discount codes [...]
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...12-onward.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...12-onward.html
Jan 15, 2013, 4:19 pm
#232
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Jan 16, 2013, 8:47 am
#233
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Hi All,
looking to do first proper long-haul real "manic" TP run this summer with two friends. Have only done simple stuff like AMS via JER from LGW before so please be kind.
Essentially looking for a long weekend type trip (Thursday to Monday/Tuesday), ex EU (not bothered but assume that's the cheapeast option), dont mind how crazy the routing is, earning as many TPs and miles a possible, ideally with at least one proper 'comfortable' segment each way (i.e. a long flight in a lie-flat or fully flat seat rather than all flights e.g. AA 757 including TATL) as cheap as possible (ideally no more than £1,500 or so). I have tried to play around with matrix a bit but struggling.
In an ideal world maybe staying a night or two in a nice destination (HNL / US West Coast / HKG etc) and/or a stop-over somewhere so it's not quite 4 days on planes (though that could be fun / acceptable with enough fully flat / lie flat elements).
Looking at July or August.
Anyone got any ideas that they've already looked into? Or would like to make a suggestion?
Many thanks - much appreciated.
looking to do first proper long-haul real "manic" TP run this summer with two friends. Have only done simple stuff like AMS via JER from LGW before so please be kind.
Essentially looking for a long weekend type trip (Thursday to Monday/Tuesday), ex EU (not bothered but assume that's the cheapeast option), dont mind how crazy the routing is, earning as many TPs and miles a possible, ideally with at least one proper 'comfortable' segment each way (i.e. a long flight in a lie-flat or fully flat seat rather than all flights e.g. AA 757 including TATL) as cheap as possible (ideally no more than £1,500 or so). I have tried to play around with matrix a bit but struggling.
In an ideal world maybe staying a night or two in a nice destination (HNL / US West Coast / HKG etc) and/or a stop-over somewhere so it's not quite 4 days on planes (though that could be fun / acceptable with enough fully flat / lie flat elements).
Looking at July or August.
Anyone got any ideas that they've already looked into? Or would like to make a suggestion?
Many thanks - much appreciated.
Last edited by chris1979; Jan 16, 2013 at 8:58 am
Jan 16, 2013, 8:54 am
#234
Join Date: Apr 2012
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Just out of interest, what's the shortest time you can sensibly squeeze the HNL TP run into?
Jan 17, 2013, 8:31 am
#235
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Location: London
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Posts: 140
Hi All,
looking to do first proper long-haul real "manic" TP run this summer with two friends. Have only done simple stuff like AMS via JER from LGW before so please be kind.
Essentially looking for a long weekend type trip (Thursday to Monday/Tuesday), ex EU (not bothered but assume that's the cheapeast option), dont mind how crazy the routing is, earning as many TPs and miles a possible, ideally with at least one proper 'comfortable' segment each way (i.e. a long flight in a lie-flat or fully flat seat rather than all flights e.g. AA 757 including TATL) as cheap as possible (ideally no more than £1,500 or so). I have tried to play around with matrix a bit but struggling.
In an ideal world maybe staying a night or two in a nice destination (HNL / US West Coast / HKG etc) and/or a stop-over somewhere so it's not quite 4 days on planes (though that could be fun / acceptable with enough fully flat / lie flat elements).
Looking at July or August.
Anyone got any ideas that they've already looked into? Or would like to make a suggestion?
Many thanks - much appreciated.
looking to do first proper long-haul real "manic" TP run this summer with two friends. Have only done simple stuff like AMS via JER from LGW before so please be kind.
Essentially looking for a long weekend type trip (Thursday to Monday/Tuesday), ex EU (not bothered but assume that's the cheapeast option), dont mind how crazy the routing is, earning as many TPs and miles a possible, ideally with at least one proper 'comfortable' segment each way (i.e. a long flight in a lie-flat or fully flat seat rather than all flights e.g. AA 757 including TATL) as cheap as possible (ideally no more than £1,500 or so). I have tried to play around with matrix a bit but struggling.
In an ideal world maybe staying a night or two in a nice destination (HNL / US West Coast / HKG etc) and/or a stop-over somewhere so it's not quite 4 days on planes (though that could be fun / acceptable with enough fully flat / lie flat elements).
Looking at July or August.
Anyone got any ideas that they've already looked into? Or would like to make a suggestion?
Many thanks - much appreciated.
BRU-MAD-LCY-JFK-LAX-HNL = 1280 TPs @ £1836 = £1.434/TP
The only drawback (in my mind) of some of these more audacious TP runs is the aggregate journey time; the total time to get to HNL on this route comes in at a whopping 51 hours 30 minutes!
In Matrix, you can adapt the brilliant search terms provided by angatol:
And do
From: BRU :: MAD LON BA1-4 JFK LAX / alliance oneworld;f ..I7SALE
Destination: HNL :: JFK BA1-4 LCY MAD / alliance oneworld;f ..I7SALE
I myself booked BRU-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL for a late April departure, staying a week in HNL. Came in at £1706 for a modest 1060 TPs (=£1.609/TP). I don't have the stomach for those marathon runs.
Jan 17, 2013, 8:42 am
#236
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: not far from MUC
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The only drawback (in my mind) of some of these more audacious TP runs is the aggregate journey time; the total time to get to HNL on this route comes in at a whopping 51 hours 30 minutes!
(snip)
I myself booked BRU-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL for a late April departure, staying a week in HNL. Came in at £1706 for a modest 1060 TPs (=£1.609/TP). I don't have the stomach for those marathon runs.
(snip)
I myself booked BRU-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL for a late April departure, staying a week in HNL. Came in at £1706 for a modest 1060 TPs (=£1.609/TP). I don't have the stomach for those marathon runs.
Jan 17, 2013, 8:52 am
#237
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Jan 17, 2013, 9:14 am
#238
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Location: London
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The total outbound time on the connection-light routing is 26h. Still particularly heavy, but within the same ballpark as the shortest-possible 23h on the direct BRU-LHR-LAX routing, and not much worse than a kangaroo route haul.
Jan 17, 2013, 2:01 pm
#239
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Location: London
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Owning to unforeseen awards redemption difficulties we may be looking to purchase flights back to LON from either TYO or CTS around New Year 2014. Could the experts out there suggest any reasonable TP runs that we could take advantage of at the same time? We are a party of 3 adults + 1 child.
Jan 17, 2013, 2:24 pm
#240
Join Date: Nov 2009
Programs: BA Blue, Flyingblue Explorer
Posts: 103
Any ideas on how to get some TPs out of this for under $1300?
20th June: BOS - HNL
26th June HNL - LAX
Thanks
20th June: BOS - HNL
26th June HNL - LAX
Thanks
Last edited by zachbb; Jan 17, 2013 at 3:19 pm