new lounge rules for gold? [End of Open Doors for Golds]
#121
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If there is a local problem, it calls for a local solution. Something to do with sledgehammers and nuts...
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What typical UK centric responses from the expected same group of characters. I have never flown EZ, nor do I plan to, but I have found the open doors policy excially the last few years to be perhaps the main reason why I have kept up my GC status, after this/next year (as its already in the bag) I do not think that I will male the effort. BA lost half my business when they changed their program once upon a time. The lost half as much again when they downgraded their product (and so many other carriers I fly improved theirs upfront), however it was nice when flying occasionally from Milan to SOMEWHERE OTHER THAN THE UK, to use the BA lounge as it was far superior to what the other airlines there offered. I also like using it in Istanbul at times when flying other airlines as it was less crowded and often closer to the gates I needed. If LGW was a problem......then they should have suspended it for LGW, otherwise I can think of no place except possible GVA where the problems alleged by certain posters would have been an issue. What a mean spirited penny pinching rule change.
#123
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Very Bad Decision
I have only used this benefit 3 or 4 times in 10 years but I can imagine that LGW is getting a real pounding from this one due to BA cutting its routes back and EZY filling the gap.
- Why not remove/restrict the benefit at LGW (like GVA) and keep it elsewhere?
- Why not limit it to twice a year with some kind of voucher system if the IT can't cope with policing it.
It feels cheap and spiteful to people who, from a common sample on this board, all spend a lot of money with BA and use it rarely but appreciate the recognition and flexibility that comes with the facility just in case.
- Why not remove/restrict the benefit at LGW (like GVA) and keep it elsewhere?
- Why not limit it to twice a year with some kind of voucher system if the IT can't cope with policing it.
It feels cheap and spiteful to people who, from a common sample on this board, all spend a lot of money with BA and use it rarely but appreciate the recognition and flexibility that comes with the facility just in case.
#124
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I imagine it's something along the lines of....BA passengers are having to put up with the heaving mass of EZY freeloaders taking all the goodies and are complaining that the lounges are too busy.
BA have lost their patience and aren't prepared to finance lounge expansion for the benefit of EZY passengers. I would have thought the majority of status holders would appreciate the move.....it should make the lounge experience better.
Just an opinion as I've never been in a lounge where EZY passengers are allowed.
BA have lost their patience and aren't prepared to finance lounge expansion for the benefit of EZY passengers. I would have thought the majority of status holders would appreciate the move.....it should make the lounge experience better.
Just an opinion as I've never been in a lounge where EZY passengers are allowed.
#125
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I imagine it's something along the lines of....BA passengers are having to put up with the heaving mass of EZY freeloaders taking all the goodies and are complaining that the lounges are too busy.
BA have lost their patience and aren't prepared to finance lounge expansion for the benefit of EZY passengers. I would have thought the majority of status holders would appreciate the move.....it should make the lounge experience better.
Just an opinion as I've never been in a lounge where EZY passengers are allowed.
BA have lost their patience and aren't prepared to finance lounge expansion for the benefit of EZY passengers. I would have thought the majority of status holders would appreciate the move.....it should make the lounge experience better.
Just an opinion as I've never been in a lounge where EZY passengers are allowed.
#126
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It's the old story of a minority - albeit a growing one - spoiling it for the majority I suppose. I'm not affected by this of course so I would have a different view than most on here.
#127
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I imagine it's something along the lines of....BA passengers are having to put up with the heaving mass of EZY freeloaders taking all the goodies and are complaining that the lounges are too busy.
BA have lost their patience and aren't prepared to finance lounge expansion for the benefit of EZY passengers. I would have thought the majority of status holders would appreciate the move.....it should make the lounge experience better.
Just an opinion as I've never been in a lounge where EZY passengers are allowed.
BA have lost their patience and aren't prepared to finance lounge expansion for the benefit of EZY passengers. I would have thought the majority of status holders would appreciate the move.....it should make the lounge experience better.
Just an opinion as I've never been in a lounge where EZY passengers are allowed.
Unless you consider a GCH who happens to be flying on easyjet a freeloader? They can't be flying on easyjet very often if they still manage to maintain Gold in BAEC!
#128
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I'm not going to comment on the rights and wrongs of this. But unfortunately some people have taken the benefit a bit too far by takng big bags full of food and drink, especially at LGW when they're travelling on easy jet.
Sorry for all those that this affects.
Sorry for all those that this affects.
#129
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Indeed. But if you could not use such hyperbolic phrases as "EZY freeloaders", how on earth would you mask the wafer-thin superficiality of the argument?
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Irishguy - as you can see from the above BA GCH's DO have access to lounges, albeit Terraces rather than F lounge.
#131
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The frustration - without knowing the full commercial case for BA, where I presume a sensible evaluation has been conducted - is that the benefit has been removed unilaterally, rather than by exception of e.g. LGW.
Feedback - real feedback, unlike that mentioned in the original email! - has been sent to GGL.
#132
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I imagine the Golds get their status through long haul travel. Their work travel policy will be you fly EZY when in Europe and BA when on long haul. BA won't lose anything through this change in my opinion.
#133
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Hmm I will miss this at NCL. I am am occasional flybe (and very occasional ezy) freeloader! . Maybe it is something to do with giving AA and IB top tiers the same benefit and that's just a bit too much?
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Awful
This was one of the main reasons why I kept gold, so when I'm flying out of ORD T5 I actually have a good lounge to use.
For me there is almost no difference between silver and gold anymore. As a EU member, I don't have any gold line to call for irops nor competent BA gold agents. The only difference I see in my case is the better lounge.
Since I already re-qualified for BA gold, looks like now silver will be just fine for me.
Just a horrible move by BA
Not only that, but trying to stay loyal isn't easy as I have to go to a completely different airport to fly BA (WAW instead of KRK). This just really ticks me off
This was one of the main reasons why I kept gold, so when I'm flying out of ORD T5 I actually have a good lounge to use.
For me there is almost no difference between silver and gold anymore. As a EU member, I don't have any gold line to call for irops nor competent BA gold agents. The only difference I see in my case is the better lounge.
Since I already re-qualified for BA gold, looks like now silver will be just fine for me.
Just a horrible move by BA
Not only that, but trying to stay loyal isn't easy as I have to go to a completely different airport to fly BA (WAW instead of KRK). This just really ticks me off