Aug 16, 2013, 8:51 am
Last edit by: FinalBoarding
An “official POUG” is defined (for the purposes of this wiki) as the rate that appears in red on the MMB/BA app. It is NOT the rate offered at the airport (please see http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...ng-thread.html), or the rate offered when you click on the “Upgrade my class of travel with money” link from within MMB, or the “Upgrade to the next available cabin” blue/grey banner in the app.
Please add to this list as required, and include the month/year when the POUG is offered to you.
LON to Europe from ET to CE (typically £59-£69 for Band 1, £69-£79 for Band 2, £79-£89 for Band 3 and £89-£99 for Band 4):
LON to North America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
LON to South America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
LON to Asia (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
LON to Australia and Oceania (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
LON to Africa & Middle East (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
Non-LON routes (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- All POUGs earn full TPs and Avios for the upgraded cabin, subject to the original booking being paid for with cash.
- POUGs *ARE* offered on Hand-Baggage Only fares, if available
- POUGs only become available after 48 hours of making your booking, until any time up to, and including OLCI. After being checked in you will not be offered a POUG.
- POUGs do not seem to become available for travel agent bookings, until 2-3 days before departure (YMMV)
- POUGs cannot be requested from Service Centres, except that occasionally BA.com will not proceed with a POUG online and display a message inviting you to call the Service Centre to complete the transaction.
- After a POUG has been purchased, the ticket become non changeable and non refundable, apart from government taxes.
Please add to this list as required, and include the month/year when the POUG is offered to you.
LON to Europe from ET to CE (typically £59-£69 for Band 1, £69-£79 for Band 2, £79-£89 for Band 3 and £89-£99 for Band 4):
- ACE - £105
- AGP – £79 (£99/€119 Dec 2014)
- AMS - £69 / £56 (£99 from HBO in Nov 2014)
- ATH - £99 (£109 from HBO in Oct 2014)
- ARN – £72
- BCN – £79 (£89 for Silver/Bronze and £114 for HBO Blue Dec 2014 - same fight, two bookings) // Blue Feb 2015 - LGW - BCN - £89 / BCN to LHR £115)
- BGO – £64 (£79 for HBO in SEP2014)
- BRI - £119 / €144 (Dec 2014)
- BRU - £69
- BSL - CHF 85 for BSL-LHR (£55 at then exchange rate) (CHF120 in Dec 2014)
- BUD - £79 (£89 and £105 Dec 2014)
- CDG - £69 (£75 Dec 2014; CDG-LHR €115 Dec 2014)
- CMF - £69 (Dec 2014)
- CPH - £79 (£129 from HBO Nov 2014)
- CTA - £119/€144 (both Dec 2014)
- DBV – £79
- DUB – £69/£56 (£99 from HBO Nov 2014, £80 Dec 2014)
- DUS – £69
- FCO - £170 (Dec 14)
- FRA – £69
- GIB - £72 (£140 Dec 14)
- GOT – £79
- GVA - £79/£89
- HAJ – £69
- HAM – £69
- HEL – £89
- INN – £89 out / €109 back (Dec 14)
- IST – £89
- JER – £69
- KBP - £80 / USD 129 (BA is not currently accepting Ukrainian currency)
- LCA – £89 (£190 Dec 2014 from LCA; separately £134 to LCA Dec 2014)
- LIN – £79
- LIS – £79 (£119 offered Nov 14, £99 and £145 Dec 14)
- LUX - £69
- MAD - £79
- MAH - £69
- MUC - £79
- MXP - £119 (€89 MXP - LHR)
- NCE - £140 (each way, 21/DEC/14)
- ORY - £69
- OSL - £79 (£64/640 NOK reported)
- OTP - £79/€89
- PMI - £69 (Dec 2014)
- PRG – £79
- PSA - £79
- SZG - £114 (Nov 2015)
- SOF - £89
- STR – £69
- TIA – £89 (£99 offered Dec 14 for TIA-LGW) (€119 TIA-LGW Dec 2014)
- TRN – £79
- TXL – £69
- VCE – £79
- VIE – £79 [£129 as of Nov14! GBP99 LHR-VIE + GBP99 VIE-LHR Nov14]
- VRN- €139 (~£110) Nov 2014 - £89 / €109 Dec 2014
- WAW – £69 (£110 Dec 14)
- ZAG – £79
- ZRH – £79 (£87 (CHF135) for ZRH-LHR): LCY-ZRH + v.v. £69 (offered 11/14)
LON to North America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- ATL - WTP £189
- BOS – WTP £189 (mid-2014) £219 (December 2014)
- IAD - WTP £157
- JFK/EWR – WTP £189 (can be as low as £133) / CW £443 / F £527 (F £599 02/08)
- LAS - WTP £180
- LAX – WTP £229 / CW £599 (CW £548 Jan 2015)
- MCO– WTP £180
- MEX – F £447/£525 / £229 WT-WTP (November 28 2015)/ 4640 MXN WT-WTP (December 14 2015)
- MIA – WTP £209 / CW £525
- ORD – WTP £171 / CW £525 / F £499
- PHL – WTP £189
- SAN – CW £599
- SEA – WTP £199
- SFO – WTP £170
- YYZ – WTP £171 (return leg) / CW £425 / F £499
- YYC - WTP £134
- YVR – WTP £175 / CW £350
LON to South America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- EZE – WTP £199
- GRU – WTP £209 / F £499 / WT to CW £699
- GIG - WT to CW £699
LON to Asia (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- BKK - WTP £126-£140 / CW £549 / F £
- BOM - WTP £ / CW £450 / F £
- DEL - F £499, subsequently reduced to £400
- HKG – WTP £199 (offered £172 for a Nov 2014 flight) / CW £599 / F £599
- NRT - WTP £199 / CW £ / F £525
- ICN - CW £499
- SIN - WTP SGD$320
LON to Australia and Oceania (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- SYD – WTP £170 / CW £399
LON to Africa & Middle East (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- AUH – F £499
- CAI - WTP £121
- DXB – WTP £179 / F £499
- EBB - WTP £142
- JNB - WTP £209
- NBO - WTP £189
Non-LON routes (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- SYD-SIN – F £465
- AMS-LGW - CE €79
- BCN-LHR - CE £64
- BRU-LHR - CE £105 (12.2014)
- CDG-LHR - CE €79
- DUB-LHR - CE €109 (£85.70-ish) from HBO booked 05.12.14, offered 08.12.14
- BOM-LHR - F cINR40,000 (c£395)
- JNB-LHR WTP - £189
- TLV-LHR - F $600 (c£370)
Pro-active Upgrade cost tracking and questions thread
Apr 16, 2014, 6:59 pm
#2986
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 985
Are POUGs offered only for ex-London flights? No joy on my SYD-SIN flight. 
Apr 17, 2014, 12:50 am
#2987
Moderator, Iberia Airlines, Airport Lounges, and Ambassador, British Airways Executive Club
Join Date: Feb 2010
Programs: BA Lifetime Gold; Flying Blue Life Platinum; LH Sen.; Hilton Diamond; Kemal Kebabs Prized Customer
Posts: 63,857
POUGs are offered in both directions, well not if you depart from the UK "regions" obviously. I don't know if there are particular constraints on your ticket - such as other segments - which may prevent you from being offered one. Until recently SYD was quite strong on advertising AUPs to passengers but now the flights appear to be fuller it wouldn't surprise me if getting upgrades is more difficult these days.
Apr 17, 2014, 2:47 am
#2988
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: London, Copenhagen
Programs: SK*G, BA Gold, IHG Plat AMB
Posts: 969
Anecdotal MMB POUG
So, for my hop home tomorrow for Easter I find myself taking a HEL-LHR flight in ET. No POUG was offered over the last 2 months to jump to CE, only the far difference + change fee price.
Checked in by mobile phone yesterday no problems. Receive the normal BA email notifying of check in a few hours later. Email shows €99 upgrade offer!
As I have already checked in the upgrade is not possible, so I phone BA and ask to be removed from the flight. Done without issue.
Go back to said email, click link for €99 upgrade...this upgrade price is no longer available etc etc price has changed etc etc. Now back to €1053 for the upgrade. Perturbed by this, I decide to check what seats BA are still selling for the flight, 0 ET and 2 CE. Dilly dally a little whilst doing some other things and MMB times out.
Log back into MMB to see now the POUG €99 upgrade offer, but this the first time it was seen in MMB (previously just 1 email). Surprise surprise, it allowed the upgrade to be processed!
So it would seem that with BA and its booking management system the rule should always be, "if at first you don't succeed..."
Checked in by mobile phone yesterday no problems. Receive the normal BA email notifying of check in a few hours later. Email shows €99 upgrade offer!
As I have already checked in the upgrade is not possible, so I phone BA and ask to be removed from the flight. Done without issue.
Go back to said email, click link for €99 upgrade...this upgrade price is no longer available etc etc price has changed etc etc. Now back to €1053 for the upgrade. Perturbed by this, I decide to check what seats BA are still selling for the flight, 0 ET and 2 CE. Dilly dally a little whilst doing some other things and MMB times out.
Log back into MMB to see now the POUG €99 upgrade offer, but this the first time it was seen in MMB (previously just 1 email). Surprise surprise, it allowed the upgrade to be processed!
So it would seem that with BA and its booking management system the rule should always be, "if at first you don't succeed..."
Apr 17, 2014, 3:21 am
#2989
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 3,607
What does this mean for bookings made with under 48h notice. If I make a same day booking or a booking for the following day will it not be able to get a POUG offer?
Apr 17, 2014, 3:59 am
#2993
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Edinburgh
Programs: BA Gold, Accor Silver, Flying Blue Zilch, East Coast Rewards Lots&lots, Miles & More nada
Posts: 288
Is there an accepted way to present pricing information in the wiki here? I ask because
(a) I've now passed the threshold which allows me to edit wikiposts, and
(b) I have a price for a POUG which differs from that shown (LHR-DUB and vice versa,
which I did post at the time.)
Should one show the date that a particular price was offered?
(a) I've now passed the threshold which allows me to edit wikiposts, and
(b) I have a price for a POUG which differs from that shown (LHR-DUB and vice versa,
which I did post at the time.)
Should one show the date that a particular price was offered?
Apr 17, 2014, 4:08 am
#2994
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 4,709
Is there an accepted way to present pricing information in the wiki here? I ask because
(a) I've now passed the threshold which allows me to edit wikiposts, and
(b) I have a price for a POUG which differs from that shown (LHR-DUB and vice versa,
which I did post at the time.)
Should one show the date that a particular price was offered?
(a) I've now passed the threshold which allows me to edit wikiposts, and
(b) I have a price for a POUG which differs from that shown (LHR-DUB and vice versa,
which I did post at the time.)
Should one show the date that a particular price was offered?
AMS - £69 / £56
Apr 17, 2014, 8:01 am
#2995
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Edinburgh
Programs: BA Gold, Accor Silver, Flying Blue Zilch, East Coast Rewards Lots&lots, Miles & More nada
Posts: 288
Apr 17, 2014, 8:14 am
#2996
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: LINCS England
Programs: GHA Gold Priority Club Gold,Etihad Guest,EK Skywards,BA exec and QR privilege
Posts: 447
I had to phone BA yesterday and while I had a very helpful chap on the other end of the phone I asked how much to upgrade our December CW to SIN up to F.
He quoted me 500GBP each.
If this qualifies as a POUG then if someone would like to include it at the top that would be great.
I didn't take him up on the offer as he suggested it may come down later.
He quoted me 500GBP each.
If this qualifies as a POUG then if someone would like to include it at the top that would be great.
I didn't take him up on the offer as he suggested it may come down later.
Apr 17, 2014, 1:12 pm
#2997
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: AKL
Programs: BA Silver, ANZ Gold, Hertz Gold
Posts: 468
I had to phone BA yesterday and while I had a very helpful chap on the other end of the phone I asked how much to upgrade our December CW to SIN up to F.
He quoted me 500GBP each.
If this qualifies as a POUG then if someone would like to include it at the top that would be great.
I didn't take him up on the offer as he suggested it may come down later.
He quoted me 500GBP each.
If this qualifies as a POUG then if someone would like to include it at the top that would be great.
I didn't take him up on the offer as he suggested it may come down later.
Apr 17, 2014, 9:22 pm
#2998
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Da World (GOT usually)
Programs: Oneworld, Hilton, IHG
Posts: 409
Apr 17, 2014, 11:35 pm
#2999
Join Date: Oct 2005
Programs: BA GGL & GfL, AA LTP, Marriott (sigh) Ambassador, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 3,238
as a hardcore AA person, i'm still a newbie to the whole world of BA POUGs but have tried reading many pages here (thanks!).
i have seen the upgrade offered (i) after booking--which i know has been eliminated until at least 48hrs or (ii) at some point prior to my departure when i look at my bookings.
has there been some shift lately in this process? i have about one dozen flights from may 11-june 6 all on BA and none seem to be currently offering any POUG other than the true price.
because my plans are so flexible i generally buy cheapest fares knowing i will have to cancel or eat about 20% of these flights and never take them. thanks for any information!
i have seen the upgrade offered (i) after booking--which i know has been eliminated until at least 48hrs or (ii) at some point prior to my departure when i look at my bookings.
has there been some shift lately in this process? i have about one dozen flights from may 11-june 6 all on BA and none seem to be currently offering any POUG other than the true price.
because my plans are so flexible i generally buy cheapest fares knowing i will have to cancel or eat about 20% of these flights and never take them. thanks for any information!
Apr 18, 2014, 1:18 am
#3000
Moderator: British Airways Executive Club
Join Date: Jan 2009
Programs: Battleaxe Alliance
Posts: 22,127
They could simply have a high occupancy. POUG isn't always offered, and I have seen somewhat horrific fares to some destinations in May/June, so I wouldn't be surprised if some flights won't have any POUG available.