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rankourabu Sep 16, 2010 1:44 pm


Originally Posted by railways (Post 14669131)
Does anyone know if Europe (zone 2) - BKK - KTM is still do-able as a zone 2 - 10 award? The Star Alliance planner doesn't throw up this or any other routing. And yes - I do intend to go all the way. Just will have a little stopover in BKK on the way back. ;)

Yes just did BUS-IST-BKK-KTM in late July.
Had an overnight in BKK as well, as the flights did not connect, there is only one BKK-KTM in the morning.

ScottieFlyer Sep 17, 2010 1:17 am


Originally Posted by railways (Post 14669131)
Does anyone know if Europe (zone 2) - BKK - KTM is still do-able as a zone 2 - 10 award? The Star Alliance planner doesn't throw up this or any other routing. And yes - I do intend to go all the way. Just will have a little stopover in BKK on the way back. ;)

What happens if I need to buy miles to complete a redemption? Do I have to call ICC, check availability/routing, go away and buy the miles, then call back and hope it is still available? Sounds too high risk to me.

I've now reserved 4 x ow GLA-BKK (so)-KTM without experiencing any problems but I did fly the whole itinerary. KTM is an interesting place and I enjoy going there. A stopover in BKK on way out would be helpful as you can then get your visa in Nepal embassy in Bangkok and avoid risk of getting caught up in lines on arrival at KTM. Availability between BKK and KTM seems to be good excepting weekends at times; purchased miles generally available next morning so there should be no problems.

mds1982 Sep 17, 2010 10:42 am

LHR or Europe to LAS
 
I read these forums avidly, but am still a little unclear as to how to go about redeeming in terms of best value for money. I am looking at going to Vegas next June, and would like to go Air Canada with a stop over in Toronto and then someone who will take me via NYC (Continental, presumably) so I can stop over there on my way back. My question is, flying out of LHR I have heard has this APD thing going on, so is it cheaper for me to fly out of another z1 airport (like Zurich?)? If so, could I still do the AC stopover thing in Toronto or not, given that LX fly direct to LAS and is therefore the most direct routing, I think?

Similarly, I have heard that Air New Zealand do not charge the APD, so if I went via Los Angeles, I would avoid it, wouldn't I? But then again, i'd lose the stop over opportunity in Canada/New York. So, should I just pay the APD out of London and be done with it? How much might all the charges be, out of interest, assuming I pay cash and miles Business return for 2 people?

I normally consider myself a reasonably switched on type, but this whole redemption/charges/routing thing is something else entirely.

Thank you for your help, I owe you one.

M.

gkbiiii Sep 17, 2010 12:45 pm

I was wondering can I fly TP/AC C Lisbon-JFK-YVR-MCO?

gkbiiii Sep 17, 2010 12:51 pm


Originally Posted by RAPC (Post 14654637)
I had to keep it short to avoid any smart comments in my response ;)

"What about North America-South America-Europe? Say NYC-GRU-ZRH? Is this a valid Z3 to Z2?"


Well I had wondered the same thing, it would be an adventure with a Sao Palo stopover.

railways Sep 17, 2010 3:07 pm


Originally Posted by ScottieFlyer (Post 14677232)
I've now reserved 4 x ow GLA-BKK (so)-KTM without experiencing any problems but I did fly the whole itinerary. KTM is an interesting place and I enjoy going there. A stopover in BKK on way out would be helpful as you can then get your visa in Nepal embassy in Bangkok and avoid risk of getting caught up in lines on arrival at KTM. Availability between BKK and KTM seems to be good excepting weekends at times; purchased miles generally available next morning so there should be no problems.

Thanks for the tip about the visa. That was the very question I was going to ask. I was also pondering whether to do KTM at the start or the end of the trip - I think that settles it.

RAPC Sep 17, 2010 8:12 pm


Originally Posted by gkbiiii (Post 14683380)
"What about North America-South America-Europe? Say NYC-GRU-ZRH? Is this a valid Z3 to Z2?"


Well I had wondered the same thing, it would be an adventure with a Sao Palo stopover.

I am sure it would be a splendid trip. It will just take 2 redemptions to do it.

ScottieFlyer Sep 18, 2010 1:10 am


Originally Posted by railways (Post 14685227)
Thanks for the tip about the visa. That was the very question I was going to ask. I was also pondering whether to do KTM at the start or the end of the trip - I think that settles it.

You're welcome. Google Nepal Embassy Bangkok to find the official Nepal Embassy to Thailand dedicated webpage. There you will find address, application form etc.Despite what it says on website I got my visa processed on the spot and it was issued in about 5 minutes. The embassy can be difficult to spot as it is a compound with only a gate and gatehouse on the soi so ask your taxi driver to go slow in lane nearest shops etc so you don't miss it. TG aservice between BKK and KTM is e3xcellent. Search the TG forum for excellent advice I received from KTM-based FTs. If you require further info or would like a recommendation for a private tour guide with car then send me a pm.

gkbiiii Sep 18, 2010 11:08 am


Originally Posted by gkbiiii (Post 14683270)
I was wondering can I fly TP/AC C Lisbon-JFK-YVR-MCO?


So is this possible to do??

onlysuites Sep 18, 2010 11:22 am


Originally Posted by gkbiiii (Post 14694737)
So is this possible to do??

I doubt it as the most direct way from NYC to MCO is not via Canada.

gkbiiii Sep 18, 2010 11:32 am


Originally Posted by lallyr (Post 14694893)
I doubt it as the most direct way from NYC to MCO is not via Canada.


So I would need to fly to Canada from Europe and then connect to MCO.


Also, is it possible to fly Lisbon-Cairo-USA, using Egypt Air as the transatlantic option?

onlysuites Sep 18, 2010 11:41 am


Originally Posted by gkbiiii (Post 14695003)
So I would need to fly to Canada from Europe and then connect to MCO.


Also, is it possible to fly Lisbon-Cairo-USA, using Egypt Air as the transatlantic option?

Yeah. You could do a Lisbon-London-Toronto-Orlando flight.

No chance on the connection via the middle east, thats some serious back tracking.

jfkeze Sep 18, 2010 2:23 pm

ok, I'm trying to go from NYC to BKK using some interesting routes...

a simple ANA search shows EWR-DEL-BKK on CO and TG in Business... that would be a valid and simple Z3 to Z7, right? Can I add a day or two in DEL without making it two tickets?

and the return, is it possible to do a Z7 to Z3 via Europe? Looking at maybe MUC or FRA. ANA won't let me finish booking a "mock" trip since it considers it a RTW.

So basically, trying to get to Z7 from Z3 with some interesting stops... are they valid?

onlysuites Sep 18, 2010 4:27 pm


Originally Posted by jfkeze (Post 14696632)
Can I add a day or two in DEL without making it two tickets?

Yep.


Originally Posted by jfkeze (Post 14696632)
is it possible to do a Z7 to Z3 via Europe? Looking at maybe MUC or FRA.

Yep. But no stopovers over 24hrs allowed in Europe.


Originally Posted by jfkeze (Post 14696632)
So basically, trying to get to Z7 from Z3 with some interesting stops... are they valid?

Yep. You can have one stop over per ticket. So if you book it as two one ways then you are allowed two stops.

jfkeze Sep 19, 2010 1:45 pm


Originally Posted by lallyr (Post 14698187)
Yep.



Yep. But no stopovers over 24hrs allowed in Europe.



Yep. You can have one stop over per ticket. So if you book it as two one ways then you are allowed two stops.

hum, so I'm reading the FAQ/stickies and trying to figure out if connections are treated different than stopovers... let's use this example
EWR-MUC land at 10:20 am, connection next day at 9:20 am MUC-ZRH-DEL stopover 2 days in DEL then off to BKK

I know some airlines allow up to 23:59 hours as a "connection" and not stopover... would this be possible? this routing, if valid, would allow me to try LH 346 J, LX 333 J, TG 747 J

sorry for the newbie questions ;), I've been collecting bmi miles, but I've never spent them, and my usual area of expertise is OneWorld hehe.. so thanks in advance!


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