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Old May 26, 2014, 8:47 am
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Every forum on Flyertalk has a personality. A forum gains a personality through user input over time, and Lifemiles is a very definitive example of how users have developed a unique community.

While Flyertalk boards actively encourage sharing of info, the Lifemiles community has developed and thrived via obscuring of certain data elements. It may not be easy for new participants to break through the codes and gain knowledge of the program's quirks, but the overall board community has adopted this unique approach. And frankly, that is not going to change overnight.

If a FT member wants to participate on this board, then they will need to respect other users. Hence, posts that run counter to this community's standards, will be removed.
Region definitions
C1 North America
C1.5 Caribbean, Bermuda
C2 Europe
C2.5 Middle East
C3 Asia
C4 South America
C5 Africa
C6 Oceania

2X, 3X: in the context of this LifeMiles thread, 2X and 3X refer to any 2nd and 3rd legs of a one-way award ticket.

LifeMiles' Star Alliance Award Chart

LifeMiles' old Star Alliance Award Chart (before Oct 15 2014) // Table of changes

Cash & Miles redemptions: the price per mile purchased during award booking varies significantly depending on how many miles are purchased. The "sweet spots" are between 38% and 58% of the total mileage required, where miles are purchased for 1.5 cents. See here for some examples.

Beware of Cabotage: LifeMiles has been known to issue tickets that constitute Cabotage, and at least one instance of denied boarding has been reported, stranding the passenger. An easily-seen example is travel on Copa from LAX to SJU (via PTY).

Understand Cabotage: Departing country 1, transiting country 2, returning to country 1 (no stopping) *is* cabotage (example: depart JFK, connect in YYZ to return to ORD, or depart Miami, connect in Bogota, return to San Francisco). On the other hand, departing country 1, going to completely unrelated country 2, and ending up in country 3, is not cabotage. So if you fly JFK-JNB-ZRH, for instance, this is completely not cabotage.

Availability: Seeing availability for *A award seats elsewhere is no guarantee they are accessible on Lifemiles. For instance award space shown on ANA often is not accessible on Lifemiles. Similarly, finding award space on single legs doesn't mean you'll get award space on the combined itinerary. And no, there is no way to overcome that.

Screenshot Method
Send email to [email protected] with attached screenshots on Lifemiles website of each individual leg showing availability. Also, screenshot showing no availability as one booking. Include passenger names, gender and DOB and copy of passenger passport. They will either call you for payment or email the itinerary and give you 3 days to call up and make payment by CC.

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Old Nov 28, 2014, 5:17 am
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Has anyone found C2-C6 availability in SQ J? Untricked as I doubt a trick is possible there...
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Old Nov 28, 2014, 7:18 am
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Originally Posted by WingedWorldExplorer
I know. but just want to make sure we work together.
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Old Nov 28, 2014, 10:33 am
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Originally Posted by Shanye2233
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I meant: Among those few people who have something valuable to exchange/share.

My sincere apologies if you mistakenly felt included.
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Old Nov 28, 2014, 2:19 pm
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I'll just LOL
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Old Nov 28, 2014, 3:30 pm
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Burned! lol!
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Old Nov 28, 2014, 6:01 pm
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Originally Posted by WingedWorldExplorer
I meant: Among those few people who have something valuable to exchange/share.

My sincere apologies if you mistakenly felt included.
Apology accepted once again wwe
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Old Nov 29, 2014, 3:00 am
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Originally Posted by Wilko Pali Sedef
Has anyone found C2-C6 availability in SQ J? Untricked as I doubt a trick is possible there...
SQ releases J to partners (or at least LM) only up to 14 days in advanced for flights to/from C6.
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Old Nov 29, 2014, 3:01 am
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Originally Posted by WingedWorldExplorer
Looks like they are panicking since they may be seriously missing their Q4 14 budget targets for ancillary revenue.
Also new: The callcenter agents told me on the phone about their 2 for 1 promo. And explained it very detailled.

Maybe positive: The callcenter seems to have much less work now (3 calls, max. 1minute waiting time) and very friendly stuff with a new "user friendly wording".
Completely different experiences than 1 year ago.
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Old Nov 29, 2014, 3:11 am
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Originally Posted by WingedWorldExplorer View Post
Looks like they are panicking since they may be seriously missing their Q4 14 budget targets for ancillary revenue.

That didn't stop them from jacking the price up 10% :-D
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Old Nov 29, 2014, 3:45 am
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Maybe for the first time in FF programs history we might see a re-devaluation lol. I wouldnt be surprised one bit.

And I surely hipe they miss the Freddy this year!
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Old Nov 29, 2014, 3:53 am
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Originally Posted by mlqsko
Maybe for the first time in FF programs history we might see a re-devaluation lol. I wouldnt be surprised one bit.
Not sure it's a first, well possibly would be in the implementation...but TG announced a huge devaluation this year to commence on x date, then reversed the decision entirely following the outcry.
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Old Nov 29, 2014, 4:10 am
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Originally Posted by Wilko Pali Sedef
Quote:
Originally Posted by WingedWorldExplorer View Post
Looks like they are panicking since they may be seriously missing their Q4 14 budget targets for ancillary revenue.

That didn't stop them from jacking the price up 10% :-D
I doubt they are panicking considering they ran these every few months for the last few years.

There are still some very good redemptions through LM. I will top up all 5 of my accounts for sure. ^

BTW - Most of my redemptions have come down this year by 20% + due to the recent devaluation ^^
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Old Nov 29, 2014, 3:01 pm
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Where do we stand on discussing tricked routes that are dead since the deval? I've got some screenshots of hilariously generous routings that I think folks here would enjoy (unfortunately I was never able to take advantage of them though).
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Old Nov 29, 2014, 10:13 pm
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Why would you want to beat a dead horse?!
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Old Nov 30, 2014, 1:55 am
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The horse ain't even dead yet. Hold that thought for another year, kluever?
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