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Old May 26, 2014, 8:47 am
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Every forum on Flyertalk has a personality. A forum gains a personality through user input over time, and Lifemiles is a very definitive example of how users have developed a unique community.

While Flyertalk boards actively encourage sharing of info, the Lifemiles community has developed and thrived via obscuring of certain data elements. It may not be easy for new participants to break through the codes and gain knowledge of the program's quirks, but the overall board community has adopted this unique approach. And frankly, that is not going to change overnight.

If a FT member wants to participate on this board, then they will need to respect other users. Hence, posts that run counter to this community's standards, will be removed.
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C1 North America
C1.5 Caribbean, Bermuda
C2 Europe
C2.5 Middle East
C3 Asia
C4 South America
C5 Africa
C6 Oceania

2X, 3X: in the context of this LifeMiles thread, 2X and 3X refer to any 2nd and 3rd legs of a one-way award ticket.

LifeMiles' Star Alliance Award Chart

LifeMiles' old Star Alliance Award Chart (before Oct 15 2014) // Table of changes

Cash & Miles redemptions: the price per mile purchased during award booking varies significantly depending on how many miles are purchased. The "sweet spots" are between 38% and 58% of the total mileage required, where miles are purchased for 1.5 cents. See here for some examples.

Beware of Cabotage: LifeMiles has been known to issue tickets that constitute Cabotage, and at least one instance of denied boarding has been reported, stranding the passenger. An easily-seen example is travel on Copa from LAX to SJU (via PTY).

Understand Cabotage: Departing country 1, transiting country 2, returning to country 1 (no stopping) *is* cabotage (example: depart JFK, connect in YYZ to return to ORD, or depart Miami, connect in Bogota, return to San Francisco). On the other hand, departing country 1, going to completely unrelated country 2, and ending up in country 3, is not cabotage. So if you fly JFK-JNB-ZRH, for instance, this is completely not cabotage.

Availability: Seeing availability for *A award seats elsewhere is no guarantee they are accessible on Lifemiles. For instance award space shown on ANA often is not accessible on Lifemiles. Similarly, finding award space on single legs doesn't mean you'll get award space on the combined itinerary. And no, there is no way to overcome that.

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Send email to [email protected] with attached screenshots on Lifemiles website of each individual leg showing availability. Also, screenshot showing no availability as one booking. Include passenger names, gender and DOB and copy of passenger passport. They will either call you for payment or email the itinerary and give you 3 days to call up and make payment by CC.

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Old Nov 13, 2014, 5:38 am
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Has the addition of AI to *A been helpful or a detriment to lifemiles?

If not so much right now how about for the future?
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Old Nov 13, 2014, 6:00 am
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Originally Posted by michaelpowell44
Has the addition of AI to *A been helpful or a detriment to lifemiles?

If not so much right now how about for the future?
Win some, lose some...
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Old Nov 13, 2014, 10:21 am
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Real boomies?

Can anyone tell me if the real boomies are still alive ? Can't find any anymore... Or is nowadays only the "inter-regio" boomy active ?

If real ones are still alive, I know most of those who know them won't answer my question, at least not in public . But it never hurts asking.

Last edited by Artemio; Nov 13, 2014 at 10:39 am Reason: Since I don't know the answer, I reformulated my text.
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Old Nov 13, 2014, 10:29 am
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Can anyone tell me if the real boomies are still alive ? Can't find any anymore... Or is nowadays only the "inter-regio" boomy active ?

I know most of those who know some real ones won't answer my question, at least not in public . But it never hurts asking.
You already know the answer.
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Old Nov 13, 2014, 10:40 am
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Originally Posted by michaelpowell44
Has the addition of AI to *A been helpful or a detriment to lifemiles?

If not so much right now how about for the future?
Detrimental for the Australians, who lost an extreme long haul opportunity, like a TPAC, followed by a Trans-Con, followed by a TATL followed by a Trans-Con.
Fortunately they have alternatives.

Originally Posted by Artemio
Can anyone tell me if the real boomies are still alive ? Can't find any anymore... Or is nowadays only the "inter-regio" boomy active ?
Your question is imprecise.

Intra-Regio via Inter-Regio is what we do.

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Old Nov 13, 2014, 11:04 am
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Originally Posted by WingedWorldExplorer

Your question is imprecise.

Intra-Regio via Inter-Regio is what we do.
Ok, let's do it again. At least I'll try...

I can't find intra-regio boomies via extra-regio any more. Do they still exist ?

Or are the inter-regio booms via extra-regio the only ones we can play with?
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Old Nov 13, 2014, 1:28 pm
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Originally Posted by WingedWorldExplorer

Your question is imprecise.

Intra-Regio via Inter-Regio is what we do.
Ok, let's do it again. At least I'll try...

I can't find intra-regio boomies via extra-regio any more. Do they still exist ?

Or are the inter-regio booms via extra-regio the only ones we can play with?
Mathematicians have a simpler notation : Cx-Cy-Cx gone, only Cx-Cy-Cz left
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Old Nov 13, 2014, 1:46 pm
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The truth is, that almost all interesting things are gone - apart from only very few exceptions. However, in my case it would require long position flights, if I really wanted to benefit from these last remaining and literally very little loopholes. But even without any loopholes, the program has become not attractive and not interesting anymore, as the prices even for many standard awards have become much higher partly, whereas the availability is as poor and bad as it has never been before. At least for my regular flown legs. There is no reason for me to buy or gift new LifeMiles, unless they accept that they exaggerated this time with the recent price increase and do some corrections in the award charts.

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Old Nov 13, 2014, 3:39 pm
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Old Nov 13, 2014, 6:26 pm
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Mathematicians have a simpler notation : Cx-Cy-Cx gone, only Cx-Cy-Cz left
I have to disagree...Cx-Cy-Cx is still possible. Not as much as before the changes, but still available from various regions.
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Old Nov 13, 2014, 11:12 pm
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Mathematicians have a simpler notation : Cx-Cy-Cx gone, only Cx-Cy-Cz left
I have to disagree...Cx-Cy-Cx is still possible. Not as much as before the changes, but still available from various regions.
you disagree with the fact that mathematicians have a simpler notation?

And I should make it clear that I'm talking Lifemiles regions, so C4s is not the same "Cx" as C4n, just as C3n <> C3c etc.

PS Ranjid, good luck with the PMs

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Old Nov 14, 2014, 12:42 am
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you disagree with the fact that mathematicians have a simpler notation?

And I should make it clear that I'm talking Lifemiles regions, so C4s is not the same "Cx" as C4n, just as C3n <> C3c etc.

PS Ranjid, good luck with the PMs
You are right...never disagree with a mathematician in this case the notation is perfect, but the part that says "gone" is definitely not correct.

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Old Nov 14, 2014, 5:50 am
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Thank you guys for your positive responses
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Old Nov 14, 2014, 9:03 am
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Originally Posted by ranjid
You are right...never disagree with a mathematician in this case the notation is perfect, but the part that says "gone" is definitely not correct.
I also hesitate to argue with one of ( if not ) THE smartest and most industrious guy here on FT and who I admire a lot, but Ranjid is correct.

I have sent an Email to the Wolfman with an example - and there are many many more.

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Old Nov 14, 2014, 11:32 am
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Originally Posted by WingedWorldExplorer
I also hesitate to argue with one of ( if not ) THE smartest and most industrious guy here on FT and who I admire a lot, but Ranjid is correct.

I have sent an Email to the Wolfman with an example - and there are many many more.
Are these same zone boomies still possible with long hauls and in F? I think I'm aware of some but they don't nett significant savings.
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