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Old May 26, 2014, 8:47 am
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Originally Posted by Moderator2
Every forum on Flyertalk has a personality. A forum gains a personality through user input over time, and Lifemiles is a very definitive example of how users have developed a unique community.

While Flyertalk boards actively encourage sharing of info, the Lifemiles community has developed and thrived via obscuring of certain data elements. It may not be easy for new participants to break through the codes and gain knowledge of the program's quirks, but the overall board community has adopted this unique approach. And frankly, that is not going to change overnight.

If a FT member wants to participate on this board, then they will need to respect other users. Hence, posts that run counter to this community's standards, will be removed.
Region definitions
C1 North America
C1.5 Caribbean, Bermuda
C2 Europe
C2.5 Middle East
C3 Asia
C4 South America
C5 Africa
C6 Oceania

2X, 3X: in the context of this LifeMiles thread, 2X and 3X refer to any 2nd and 3rd legs of a one-way award ticket.

LifeMiles' Star Alliance Award Chart

LifeMiles' old Star Alliance Award Chart (before Oct 15 2014) // Table of changes

Cash & Miles redemptions: the price per mile purchased during award booking varies significantly depending on how many miles are purchased. The "sweet spots" are between 38% and 58% of the total mileage required, where miles are purchased for 1.5 cents. See here for some examples.

Beware of Cabotage: LifeMiles has been known to issue tickets that constitute Cabotage, and at least one instance of denied boarding has been reported, stranding the passenger. An easily-seen example is travel on Copa from LAX to SJU (via PTY).

Understand Cabotage: Departing country 1, transiting country 2, returning to country 1 (no stopping) *is* cabotage (example: depart JFK, connect in YYZ to return to ORD, or depart Miami, connect in Bogota, return to San Francisco). On the other hand, departing country 1, going to completely unrelated country 2, and ending up in country 3, is not cabotage. So if you fly JFK-JNB-ZRH, for instance, this is completely not cabotage.

Availability: Seeing availability for *A award seats elsewhere is no guarantee they are accessible on Lifemiles. For instance award space shown on ANA often is not accessible on Lifemiles. Similarly, finding award space on single legs doesn't mean you'll get award space on the combined itinerary. And no, there is no way to overcome that.

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Send email to [email protected] with attached screenshots on Lifemiles website of each individual leg showing availability. Also, screenshot showing no availability as one booking. Include passenger names, gender and DOB and copy of passenger passport. They will either call you for payment or email the itinerary and give you 3 days to call up and make payment by CC.

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Old Oct 28, 2014, 2:25 pm
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Originally Posted by yerffej201
are they manually processing tickets now?
this is lifemiles, they issue tickets via a combination of a small gerbil to power the server where the site is hosted and a few Ouija Boards for allowable routing rules... manual ticket is possible...
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Old Oct 28, 2014, 2:32 pm
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O6 (Avianca Brasil) now appears to be present for booking with lifemiles. They must have done an update that caused the awards to show wrong now. Unfortunately, that closed one of the loopholes that I recently discovered.
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Old Oct 28, 2014, 2:35 pm
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Originally Posted by jfkeze
I had that same issue, I got a call from a random 305 number, it was Lifemiles calling about my triple reservation same day different flights and cities. We cancelled two of the three, but need to see what they are going to charge in the end, since I was debited 41500 on the website and had paid part in C&M.
So if you get a 305 area code call it might be Lifemiles, no comments at all regarding the price paid and strangely it's the first time they proactively call when these tickets enter limbo land...
So I managed to snag the PNR on the "processing" page and CheckMyTrip shows both tickets. Only one has ticketed + confirmed though.

First I booked 2x: NRT-TPE-JFK in ANA J and EWR-UA in UA J for 42.5k LMs each
Even though I used miles + $$$, LM deducted the "full" 85k, and charged my CC $590.32. This is ticketed and confirmed.

Then I booked 2x: GRU-ZRH-BKK in LX J for 41.5k LMs each
I again used miles + $$$, but my miles balance was less than the full amount required for 2 tickets (in miles only). They charged my CC $584.92 and deducted 41.5k (one ticket). This is not ticketed.

No calls from LM yet. Will update when I get more information.

Wonder if I'll ever get those miles that I "co-paid" for back into my account.
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Old Oct 28, 2014, 2:43 pm
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Did anyone else also notice the new "sweet spot" where you get 1000 miles for -0.36. it seems to happen a couple of times.
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Old Oct 28, 2014, 3:11 pm
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I can see C1-C2-C4 30k in J. Tastes kind of like overpriced chocolate.

Now if I could just find something I can use
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Old Oct 28, 2014, 3:18 pm
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Originally Posted by yerffej201
on mighty travels. would you like me to link the site here
I was expecting you'd beat the crowd, one of the reasons I personally broke the news here. So disappointed of you.
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Old Oct 28, 2014, 3:22 pm
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Originally Posted by mlqsko
I was expecting you'd beat the crowd, one of the reasons I personally broke the news here. So disappointed of you.
i know right, how sad
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Old Oct 28, 2014, 3:29 pm
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Originally Posted by citsfo
Did anyone else also notice the new "sweet spot" where you get 1000 miles for -0.36. it seems to happen a couple of times.
had to read that twice. the "1000" is somewhat important part that my eyes wanted to skip and go straight to the -.36.
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Old Oct 28, 2014, 4:10 pm
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Don't you just love the Lifemiles IT?
Now, when you scroll to the end of the airlines list, you get the cryptic
"Z - Fin de Listado (Brazil)"
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Old Oct 28, 2014, 4:43 pm
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Originally Posted by jfkeze
Depends on the country, US and Canada sadly need a visa in advance or just do Transit at the airport...

As a US citizen using an ordinary US passport, I've done US-GRU-EZE without a Brazilian visa -- but it was all on a single-ticketed PNR and the change of airline at GRU involved only a two hour connection.
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Old Oct 28, 2014, 4:54 pm
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GRU/... seems to be fixed
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Old Oct 28, 2014, 5:48 pm
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Originally Posted by hannes08
GRU/... seems to be fixed
I think you mean that the promotional sale is over :-)
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Old Oct 28, 2014, 9:17 pm
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found it odd that it asked to login twice today during the promo.
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Old Oct 30, 2014, 7:39 pm
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Has anyone tried purchasing miles past the 150k annual limit? By that I mean, not whether or not it is possible, but whether or not LM notices and/or f**** your account?
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Old Oct 30, 2014, 9:25 pm
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Originally Posted by scibuff
Has anyone tried purchasing miles past the 150k annual limit? By that I mean, not whether or not it is possible, but whether or not LM notices and/or f**** your account?
There have been occasions where going over the 150k limit has been allowed. It either will work or it won't. I am not aware of account problems if you do go over.
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