Argentine Wines 101 and Q&A thread
Mar 29, 2010 | 6:50 am
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my books from the '50's and 60's claim that the growers in st emilion and those in medoc thought the bosch was quite different than cab franc, even though it was part of the cab franc family.
just read about the grapevine moth. in the article, ther is mention of over 30 clones of pinot noir.
Apr 1, 2010 | 1:13 am
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Speaking of Cabernet Franc.... have you tried the Benegas Lynch Cabernet Franc...???
Apr 27, 2010 | 6:11 am
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Alfredo Roca pinot noir. in my neverending and frustrating search for inexpensive(cheap) pinot noir, i bought a case of 09 arpn. it is decent, drinkable wine.
does argentena have any controls over what goes in the bottle, compared to the label? from the back label "this 100% pinot noir shows deep crimson color...." about the color of fully extracted malbec, or syrah. has about as much pn characteristic as anything north of zinfindel. luigi bosca pinot tastes and looks like pinot. i do not have much experience with others from east andes.
"Speaking of Cabernet Franc.... have you tried the Benegas Lynch Cabernet Franc...??? " benegas lynch is not readily available in the area.
does argentena have any controls over what goes in the bottle, compared to the label? from the back label "this 100% pinot noir shows deep crimson color...." about the color of fully extracted malbec, or syrah. has about as much pn characteristic as anything north of zinfindel. luigi bosca pinot tastes and looks like pinot. i do not have much experience with others from east andes.
"Speaking of Cabernet Franc.... have you tried the Benegas Lynch Cabernet Franc...??? " benegas lynch is not readily available in the area.
Apr 27, 2010 | 12:16 pm
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Alfredo Roca pinot noir. in my neverending and frustrating search for inexpensive(cheap) pinot noir, i bought a case of 09 arpn. it is decent, drinkable wine.
does argentena have any controls over what goes in the bottle, compared to the label? from the back label "this 100% pinot noir shows deep crimson color...." about the color of fully extracted malbec, or syrah. has about as much pn characteristic as anything north of zinfindel. luigi bosca pinot tastes and looks like pinot. i do not have much experience with others from east andes.
"Speaking of Cabernet Franc.... have you tried the Benegas Lynch Cabernet Franc...??? " benegas lynch is not readily available in the area.
does argentena have any controls over what goes in the bottle, compared to the label? from the back label "this 100% pinot noir shows deep crimson color...." about the color of fully extracted malbec, or syrah. has about as much pn characteristic as anything north of zinfindel. luigi bosca pinot tastes and looks like pinot. i do not have much experience with others from east andes.
"Speaking of Cabernet Franc.... have you tried the Benegas Lynch Cabernet Franc...??? " benegas lynch is not readily available in the area.
for good Pinot at low prices..... try to see if you can get something from Universo Austral.... their Calafate Reserva Pinot is very good for the price.
cheers,
Alex
Apr 27, 2010 | 2:00 pm
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we sure do.... a winery bottling labeled Pinot with something else will get closed down quickly.... having said this Im not surprised that this Pinot you mention tastes a lot more like a zin..... its pathetic, but many new world winemakers (not only Argentine) are making pinot to such an absurd level of extraction that it just erases typicity.....
for good Pinot at low prices..... try to see if you can get something from Universo Austral.... their Calafate Reserva Pinot is very good for the price.
cheers,
Alex
for good Pinot at low prices..... try to see if you can get something from Universo Austral.... their Calafate Reserva Pinot is very good for the price.
cheers,
Alex
Apr 28, 2010 | 1:05 pm
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Wine in a grey sock
Is the Catena Zapata the only wine that the winery markets with the grey cut-out sock? The reason I ask is that while wandering through BA today I saw a 1994 priced at 2950 Pesos a bottle 
. I have a bottle of wine in the grey sock 
from the early or mid-90s at home and am wondering if I am sitting on soemthing of immense value (well immense price at least). Im sure I wouldnt have paid more than $US40-50 for it all those years ago.
. I have a bottle of wine in the grey sock from the early or mid-90s at home and am wondering if I am sitting on soemthing of immense value (well immense price at least). Im sure I wouldnt have paid more than $US40-50 for it all those years ago.
May 10, 2010 | 5:30 am
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Yes, the Catena Estiba Reservada is the wine you are talking about... its one of the Cult Wines of Argentina. Remember the 94 vintage is a solid year and its been pretty much sold out for a long time... prices will indeed be very high for the few remaining bottles.
May 11, 2010 | 11:05 am
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What is the general consensus on the quality of the harvest this year and is there anything interesting of note to look forward to either from 2010 (probably too early to know for sure) or 2009?
I've noticed in Minneapolis that more liquor stores are starting to carry stuff from other producers than the usual suspects (e.g. Norton, Trapiche) etc which is kind of nice. Hopefully that trend continues.
I've noticed in Minneapolis that more liquor stores are starting to carry stuff from other producers than the usual suspects (e.g. Norton, Trapiche) etc which is kind of nice. Hopefully that trend continues.
May 15, 2010 | 1:47 pm
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Trick question.... as the current vintage will depend on the wine you are talking about.
Trick question.... as the current vintage will depend on the wine you are talking about.
May 17, 2010 | 6:09 am
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Trick question.... as the current vintage will depend on the wine you are talking about.
Trick question.... as the current vintage will depend on the wine you are talking about.
May 18, 2010 | 10:13 am
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Im strongly against a one grade/one number to rate a vintage of an entire region...... this is simply wrong. In any event.... to which year do you assign your above rating...???
May 19, 2010 | 5:51 am
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parker gives all the vintages he has rated 90-92, so i figured a 91(+/-1) should be correct, even untasted. here in USA, everything is judged and quantized by a single number
May 20, 2010 | 8:18 am
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Alas, got home to find that my bottle is a 1997 any views on when best to drink?
May 20, 2010 | 9:08 am
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The 97 is firing on all cylinders now.... dont see a need to cellar it any further.