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In June 2017, the American Express International Airline Program changed to a discount program, rather than "buy one get one free".
https://www.americanexpress.com/us/t...ram/index.html
To research and book, you can
1) Call Platinum Travel Services (1-800-525-3355) or Business Platinum Travel Services (1-800-553-9497). $39 booking and change fees apply
2) As of October 18, 2018, customers can use Live Chat to receive quotes. Log into your account at www.americanexpress.com/travel
3) As of May 2019, customers can log into www.amextravel.com and search and book some IAP fares. Not all carriers participate in online bookings, and not all fares appear online. (Relevant FlyerTalk thread 1 Relevant Thread 2)
The program is available on International First, Business and Premium Economy Class tickets booked through American Express Travel, on both refundable and non-refundable fares.
Good for purchases of 1 to 8 tickets on participating airlines.
Use Pay with Points for all or part of you fares, plus you still get miles from the airline.
Subject to $39 servicing fee per ticket for Platinum card members when calling.
"Travel must originate in and return to U.S. gateway (may exclude certain overseas territories) and select Canadian gateways. One-way travel permitted on some airlines where routing originates in U.S. or select Canadian Gateways." Known to include YVR, YYZ.
It was suggested that a Wikipost be written to try and collect past and example discounts, as the fares themselves are unpublished. The discounts vary, sometimes widely, based on availability, fares, and sales. I've broken it down into ranges, and sorted by the number of reports. I also combined AF/KL/DL as they have joint ventures TATL so it's hard to say from all posts which metal members were reporting. My calculations for discount ranges do not intentionally include the $39 booking fee.
Delta / Air France / KLM
https://www.americanexpress.com/us/t...ram/index.html
To research and book, you can
1) Call Platinum Travel Services (1-800-525-3355) or Business Platinum Travel Services (1-800-553-9497). $39 booking and change fees apply
2) As of October 18, 2018, customers can use Live Chat to receive quotes. Log into your account at www.americanexpress.com/travel
3) As of May 2019, customers can log into www.amextravel.com and search and book some IAP fares. Not all carriers participate in online bookings, and not all fares appear online. (Relevant FlyerTalk thread 1 Relevant Thread 2)
The program is available on International First, Business and Premium Economy Class tickets booked through American Express Travel, on both refundable and non-refundable fares.
Good for purchases of 1 to 8 tickets on participating airlines.
Use Pay with Points for all or part of you fares, plus you still get miles from the airline.
Subject to $39 servicing fee per ticket for Platinum card members when calling.
"Travel must originate in and return to U.S. gateway (may exclude certain overseas territories) and select Canadian gateways. One-way travel permitted on some airlines where routing originates in U.S. or select Canadian Gateways." Known to include YVR, YYZ.
It was suggested that a Wikipost be written to try and collect past and example discounts, as the fares themselves are unpublished. The discounts vary, sometimes widely, based on availability, fares, and sales. I've broken it down into ranges, and sorted by the number of reports. I also combined AF/KL/DL as they have joint ventures TATL so it's hard to say from all posts which metal members were reporting. My calculations for discount ranges do not intentionally include the $39 booking fee.
Delta / Air France / KLM
- Fares < 10 %: 2
- Fares 10%-15.9%: 16
- https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28427217-post5.html
- (First) https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28455196-post22.html
- https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28552399-post75.html
- https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28557136-post80.html
- https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28681679-post119.html
- (First) https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28912654-post150.html
- (PE) https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29314333-post216.html
- https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29314692-post217.html
- https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29321044-post230.html
- https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29485431-post250.html
- https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30218019-post300.html
- https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30337457-post316.html
- https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30647796-post331.html
- (First) https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/31053636-post394.html
- https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/31089400-post399.html
- https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/32079945-post586.html
- Fares 16%-20.9%: 5
- Fares 21%+: 3
- Fares < 10%: 1
- Fares 10%-15.9%: 6
- https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28581934-post91.html
- (PE) https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28658835-post109.html
- (First) https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28844429-post141.html
- (PE) https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29315142-post218.html
- (PE) https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29836516-post265.html
- (PE) https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28758330-post129.html
- Fares 16%-20.9%: 1
- Fares < 10%: 4
- Fares 16%-20.9%: 1
- Fares 21%+: 1
- Note: Prices include seat selection per this thread
- Fares <= 10%: 4
- Fares 16%-20.9%: 1
- Fares 10%-15.9%: 1
- Fares 16%-20.9%: 1
- Fares <= 10%: 1
- Fares 10%-15.9%: 1
- Fares >= 35%: 1
- Fares 21%+: 2
- Fares < 10%: 1
- Fares 10%-15.9%: 1
- Fares 16%-20.9%: 1
- Fares 10%-15.9%: 1
USA International Airline Program (IAP) relaunched as discount benefit (2017).
#166
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The IAP was only ever marketed as being for First/Business class fares (although the new IAP looks like it does include PE).
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#171
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it was automatic & normal for my IAP Aug 2017 issued KL-flights DL-ticketed Z-fare tickets at 1 month plus 1 day after ticketing.
exact same timeframe as AMEX.com online business class tickets
exact same timeframe as AMEX.com online business class tickets
Last edited by Colin; Dec 2, 2017 at 12:35 pm
#172
Join Date: Jun 2015
Programs: AA Plat
Posts: 1
Amex IAP: Are EQD's/EQM's treated 100% ?
Does anyone know if the cost/price of the ticket go towards our EQD when you go through IAP? Meaning, If I pay 4K for a ticket, I will get the full 4K of EQD's and not a small percentage of that ( I know that taxes aren't included for EQD's ). Same with the EQM's, meaning the booking code is J, and I'll get J but not some strange "Bulk" discount code meaning all "J's" are treated like "D's" when booked through Amex IAP?
#173
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Bad Program or Bad Experience?-
A few months ago, I had posted about a great discount on a quoted booking, HNL-AKL return on Air New Zealand.
Today, I was investigating another possible trip to NZ, and was quoted a price of >$10k PER TICKET. When I checked the ANZ on line portal, my per ticket fee was quoted as $4300.
I'll HUACA tomorrow....
Today, I was investigating another possible trip to NZ, and was quoted a price of >$10k PER TICKET. When I checked the ANZ on line portal, my per ticket fee was quoted as $4300.
I'll HUACA tomorrow....
#174
Join Date: Dec 2008
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Can anyone confirm if IAP fares are earning relevant EQDs in their respective programs? I’m part of AA, and while they don't participate, I am curious if purchasing a CX ticket and then crediting to AA will get my respective EQMs and EQDs.
Any experciences?
Any experciences?
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EQDs and EQMs on partner airlines for AA status are based on distance flown and fare class. Price paid is irrelevant.
https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/...ay-pacific.jsp
I earned $6,500 EQDs and almost 40,000 EQMs on a <$1000 partner mistake fare.
I can't speak to any other airline programs.
https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/...ay-pacific.jsp
I earned $6,500 EQDs and almost 40,000 EQMs on a <$1000 partner mistake fare.
I can't speak to any other airline programs.
Last edited by margarita girl; Dec 5, 2017 at 2:02 am Reason: typo
#176
Join Date: Dec 2008
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EQDs and EQMs on partner airlines for AA status are based on distance flown and fare class. Price paid is irrelevant.
https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/...ay-pacific.jsp
I earned $6,500 EQDs and almost 40,000 EQMs on a <$1000 partner mistake fare.
I can't speak to any other airline programs.
https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/...ay-pacific.jsp
I earned $6,500 EQDs and almost 40,000 EQMs on a <$1000 partner mistake fare.
I can't speak to any other airline programs.
#177
Join Date: May 2007
Location: IAD
Posts: 302
I'm new to AmEx Business Platinum and have just read through this entire thread. I'll be booking two F or C tickets to Europe soon and am confused about AmEx Travel vs. the IAP. Do they both earn 5x miiles on bookings? It seems like I'm reading conflicting info here (or just misunderstanding what I'm reading.) Thanks.
Last edited by eerickso; Dec 9, 2017 at 6:16 am
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tickets booked with the AMEX Biz Plat via a AMEX Travel telephone agent do not count as 5x.
all IAP bookings must be via an AMEX Travel telephone agent.
tickets booked with the AMEX Biz Plat via AMEXTravel.com self-service do count as 5x.
all IAP bookings must be via an AMEX Travel telephone agent.
tickets booked with the AMEX Biz Plat via AMEXTravel.com self-service do count as 5x.