NYTimes: "Amex, Challenged by Chase, Is Losing the Snob War"
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Yeah but one has a reputation and history of being favorable towards the cardholder, they'll always take your side first. Typically the process is much smoother than with a Visa or MasterCard.
Fortunately I've never had a dispute with a Chase credit card. I do bank with them mainly for their superior debit fraud protection. Chase is like the AMEX of checking accounts.
Fortunately I've never had a dispute with a Chase credit card. I do bank with them mainly for their superior debit fraud protection. Chase is like the AMEX of checking accounts.
I was SUPER surprised at the quality and speed of service. They handled the fraud charges 100%. I never heard from them again on the issue.
#212
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Why? There are numerous threads in this section on the forum explaining how to use the travel credit, one for each possible airline selection. Even if you do not fly, you can probably flip a gift card online for some percentage of its face value. Whatever that percentage is, it's better than getting $0.
AmEx could win the credit card war if they would make things easier, provide more points for dining, and make points worth more. If my points earning is only 1/$1, then I'm going to use my CSR because I can get a $50 Target gift card from UR for 5,000 points vs. 7,143 points on AmEx MR.
#213
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True, I could buy points or a gift card. This brings us back to an underlying theme of this thread: Chase is making things easier than AmEx. I don't have to "hack" the travel credit with Chase. They've already reimbursed me for travel-related expenses that I didn't even think would be reimbursed. I was able to use my entire $300 credit during one trip without having to think about how to use it. Chase will continue to take AmEx's millennial customers by making things easier. ^
AmEx could win the credit card war if they would make things easier, provide more points for dining, and make points worth more. If my points earning is only 1/$1, then I'm going to use my CSR because I can get a $50 Target gift card from UR for 5,000 points vs. 7,143 points on AmEx MR.
AmEx could win the credit card war if they would make things easier, provide more points for dining, and make points worth more. If my points earning is only 1/$1, then I'm going to use my CSR because I can get a $50 Target gift card from UR for 5,000 points vs. 7,143 points on AmEx MR.
#214
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AmEx could win the credit card war if they would make things easier, provide more points for dining, and make points worth more. If my points earning is only 1/$1, then I'm going to use my CSR because I can get a $50 Target gift card from UR for 5,000 points vs. 7,143 points on AmEx MR.
In other words, they of course know that it could be made easier. But that would cost them more money, and they probably have better data than some flyertalking card members to determine whether a potential increase in its member base would be sufficient to negate the cost increase.
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Sure, I understand why a lot of people don't even bother with AmEx. But if you are going to hold the Plat card, I don't understand why you'd give "free" money to AmEx like that. As long as I hold the Plat, I will play the game and extract as much value out of the card as I possibly can. If I ever tire of doing this, I'm not going to reward AmEx for making it difficult to use my benefits -- I'm going to cancel the card entirely.
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Sure, I understand why a lot of people don't even bother with AmEx. But if you are going to hold the Plat card, I don't understand why you'd give "free" money to AmEx like that. As long as I hold the Plat, I will play the game and extract as much value out of the card as I possibly can. If I ever tire of doing this, I'm not going to reward AmEx for making it difficult to use my benefits -- I'm going to cancel the card entirely.
#217
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That Boingo benefit is something I've always seen as worthless. People actually pay money for that? Most of the Boingo hotspots around here are free anyway (McDonald's, Starbucks, etc) and everyone who would want to use them already has a cellular data plan.
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Agree in US except for some airports in the US but internationally the Boingo benefit is huge.
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People probably paid money for it more often in the past since cellular data plans generally prohibited tethering (unless you rooted your phone or paid for a very overpriced tethering plan, of course).
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#223
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openssl rand -hex 6 | sed 's/\(..\)/\1:/g; s/.$//' | xargs sudo ifconfig wlan0 ether
I was then back online for another 30 minutes and I could have repeated the process again as often as I needed to. This works as long as it does not randomly generate a multicast MAC address (01:00:5e:xx:xx:xx or 33:33:xx:xx:xx:xx) and the chances of that happening are very small. I guess another problem is if it randomly generates the MAC address of someone who has been there within the last 24 hours and has used the free trial; chances of this happening are so miniscule that you could probably do this every 30 minutes for 20 years without it happening. Regenerate again in the unlikely scenario that this happens.
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That dump Love Field comes to mind - nearly lost my mind in there after a WN MX delay, and I was coming off 20 hours in the air and didn't feel like going down to Deep Ellum. Now, if only they could get a lounge and more restroom space...
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Why would they still include Costco in their earnings? I must be missing something. They lost Costco almost a year ago. At this point, either customers went with Citi, or they transferred to a different AMEX card. I think any pains of losing Costco were finished about nine months ago.
What AMEX is doing isn't really improving, but the numbers are reflected based on cut backs and the increased price of their products. The AF for the Blue Cash Preferred increased by $25 this year, while the Platinum (which will be reflected in next quarter's earnings) will have increased $100. I can't find any information here, but I'm gonna go on a limb and say the "clear cards" are the most popular besides the Premier Rewards Gold and the Platinum.
Personally I'd like to see AMEX find a new partner.. I wasn't impressed when they lost Jet Blue. I'd like to see them steal Amtrak away from Bank of America, or partner with Uber to create a credit card with benefits for both companies.
What AMEX is doing isn't really improving, but the numbers are reflected based on cut backs and the increased price of their products. The AF for the Blue Cash Preferred increased by $25 this year, while the Platinum (which will be reflected in next quarter's earnings) will have increased $100. I can't find any information here, but I'm gonna go on a limb and say the "clear cards" are the most popular besides the Premier Rewards Gold and the Platinum.
Personally I'd like to see AMEX find a new partner.. I wasn't impressed when they lost Jet Blue. I'd like to see them steal Amtrak away from Bank of America, or partner with Uber to create a credit card with benefits for both companies.
Check the coverage here:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...marketing-push
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ameri...205719027.html