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Old Oct 3, 2017, 8:41 pm
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Originally Posted by dhuey
I'll keep an eye out for Mom, Dad & the kids getting wasted in the Centurion lounge. I haven't seen that many kids in the lounges, and best I can tell, neither they nor their parents were getting hammered. But I'll have my iPhone at the ready to document it, should I see it. Thanks for the tip.
Of course a "family" doesn't mean that "the kids" are under 21. But, yes, I recommend MIA and DFW if you want to see parents drinking (and grandparents too). Some people continue that cruise as long as possible... (And also note that for many Latin Americans, a lounge stop without a glass of wine is uncivilized, even if they are traveling with children.)
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Old Oct 3, 2017, 11:15 pm
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Originally Posted by cbn42
That's simply not how statistics works. Let me give an example.

Group A: 100 plat card holders, each with a family of 5, who brings their entire family to the lounge twice a year.

Group B: 100 plat card holders, each a solo business traveler, who comes to the lounge by himself/herself twice a week.

There are 365 days in a year, so on average, on any given day there will be approximately 0.54 card holders from group A in the lounge, for a total of 2.7 guests per day.

From group B, on the other hand, each person is making 104 visits a year, or .284 visits per day. Therefore, this group will add 284 people to the lounge on any given day.

On any given day, group B is taking up over 100 times as much space in the lounge network as group A.
11 out of 10 people who don't understand statistics would disagree with you.
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Old Oct 4, 2017, 6:33 am
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Originally Posted by Adam1222
Of course a "family" doesn't mean that "the kids" are under 21. But, yes, I recommend MIA and DFW if you want to see parents drinking (and grandparents too). Some people continue that cruise as long as possible... (And also note that for many Latin Americans, a lounge stop without a glass of wine is uncivilized, even if they are traveling with children.)
Well, duh, cause it is!
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Old Oct 4, 2017, 8:08 am
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Originally Posted by dhuey
The family of four drinks more? Seriously? More than whom? Have you seen some youngsters boozing it up while they travel with their parents? Mom and Dad getting hammered as they travel with their kids?
The massive booze and food guzzling lounge users are more typically the adults traveling without minor children.

Alcoholic business travelers unfortunately aren't all that rare a sight. They surely seem more prevalent in lounges than alcoholic minors and accompanying parents in the lounges.
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Old Oct 4, 2017, 8:15 am
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Originally Posted by stheller
11 out of 10 people who don't understand statistics would disagree with you.
This is actually neither statistics nor correct.
The problem is presuming that a family of 4 takes up the same amount of space as 4 individual travelers. But they do not. Individual travelers are more likely to sit at the bar, or to fill in empty chairs at other tables. I've seen groups, though, combine two round tables that could each accommodate 4 people in order to accommodate 6. The false equivalency skews the analysis. If N = space occupied by a single traveler, a family of 4 probably occupies somewhere between 6N and 8N, not 4N.




As to whether business travelers or leisure travelers are more likely to get drunk, it appears we all have different experiences. Obviously, some people in each category do, but in my experience, business travelers are more likely to want to get work done or take calls than have 4 mojitos.
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Old Oct 4, 2017, 8:24 am
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So I've just read all 69 pages of this thread and to recap:

All business travelers appear to hate the following:
-Children
-Grandparents
-Latin Americans
-rainbows
-unicorns

Everyone else hates:
-Statistics that tell them they are inferior to business travelers

Did I sum it up about right?
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Old Oct 4, 2017, 8:36 am
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Originally Posted by rpk113
All business travelers appear to hate the following:
-Children
-Grandparents
-Latin Americans
-rainbows
-unicorns

Everyone else hates:
-Statistics that tell them they are inferior to business travelers

Did I sum it up about right?
Pretty much. Especially those damn unicorns, they drink all of my favorite beer.

Also this thread makes me think of this:

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Old Oct 4, 2017, 9:29 am
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So... when will HKG make the grand entrance here? From reading the reviews so far, it is just ripe for overcrowding. Oh well, I will probably do the exact same routine as I do at SFO (eat at Centurion, head over to United Club, although the recent UA Lounge situation at SFO is worrisome).
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Old Oct 4, 2017, 9:31 am
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Originally Posted by radiowell
So... when will HKG make the grand entrance here?
Which kids booze it up more and leave more food on their plates: Latinos or Chinese? Asking for a business traveler friend.
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Old Oct 4, 2017, 9:36 am
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Originally Posted by radiowell
So... when will HKG make the grand entrance here? From reading the reviews so far, it is just ripe for overcrowding. Oh well, I will probably do the exact same routine as I do at SFO (eat at Centurion, head over to United Club, although the recent UA Lounge situation at SFO is worrisome).
From those review websites, it seems the HK's platinum card has a higher set of requirements for those that want to apply. $1mil annual income for the starter. So overcrowding could be due to users from around the world.
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Old Oct 4, 2017, 10:02 am
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At the SFO lounge now. Already no seats at 9am. Sharing a table with a nice family.

Edit: lounge staff removed the reserved placard for Cents so additional people can come in.

Edit 2: Line for the buffet and for the men's room. Leaving to go to the United Club.

Last edited by JHake10; Oct 4, 2017 at 10:37 am
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Old Oct 4, 2017, 10:18 am
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Originally Posted by JHake10
At the SFO lounge now. Already no seats at 9am. Sharing a table with a nice family.

Edit: lounge staff removed the reserved placard for Cents so additional people can come in.
Thanks for the report. As I said above, UA at SFO is going through club closure/temp set up, so that it may make the SFO Centurion Lounge situation even worse.

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28887115-post293.html

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Old Oct 4, 2017, 10:20 am
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Originally Posted by JHake10
At the SFO lounge now. Already no seats at 9am. Sharing a table with a nice family.

Edit: lounge staff removed the reserved placard for Cents so additional people can come in.
So, what's your guess on the makeup of the crowd?

% solo business travelers
% families with strollers
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Old Oct 4, 2017, 10:22 am
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Originally Posted by Troopers
% solo business travelers
% families with strollers
Don't forget % unicorns
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Old Oct 4, 2017, 10:24 am
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Originally Posted by rpk113
Don't forget % unicorns
And those bratty, piggy, drunken unicorn children.
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