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Old Feb 12, 2023, 11:58 pm
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Welcome to the Rocketmiles/AAdvantage Hotels (née BookAAHotels) Official Thread & Wiki!
reflecting July 2023 program changes

AAdvantage Hotels Customer Support phone # (844) 801-6778 and email is [email protected]

Posting times per the AA Hotels Platform FAQ: "Rewards typically post between 3-4 weeks after your stay is completed with the transaction date reflecting your check-in date. If booked through one of our suppliers that provide “Pay Later” rates (pay upon check-in), the rewards typically post within 4 – 6 weeks after your stay is completed."

Posting times per FT user experience: Varies greatly, and cyclically through the year, between several days to 6 weeks after checkout. Within 2 weeks after checkout is arguably "average" but YMMV greatly. Notwithstanding whatever wait you might have, the points will eventually post.

0. Why should I use RocketMiles over AAdvantage Hotels?
You shouldn't. There are no advantages to doing so unless you truly have no superior booking option. AAdvantage Hotels, now being on the same platform, is strictly better if your goal is AA LPs or AA RDM. (Note: RocketMiles, the engine for AAdvantage Hotels, is owned by Booking Holdings: https://about.rocketmiles.com/how-it-works who also owns Priceline, Agoda, Kayak, etc.)

1. Do base miles earned on AAdvantage Hotels count towards Loyalty Point earnings/status?
Yes - but any boost miles (miles purchased during checkout) only count as redeemable miles.

2. How can I maximize my AA earnings?

a. via AAHotels Customers who have AAdvantage elite status, and/or have any AA co-branded credit card earn significantly more LPs/RDMs per reservation. Customers who have either AA status OR an AA credit card will earn up to 5x more LPs/RDMs than the normal rate, while customers who have both AA status AND an AA credit card will earn up to 10x LPs/RDMs more than the normal rate (up to 15,000 LP max). The extra LP/RDM earnings for being an AA card holder apply whether or not you charge the reservation to your AA credit card. The total LPs/RDMs to be earned through AAHotels are reflected on your reservation and post to AA.com after your hotel stay, see questions 6 and 7 below.

b. via AA Loyalty Point Rewards Purchases made via AAHotels (and other "select partners") benefit from "Loyalty Point Reward" bonuses given to AAdvantage Members who reach certain LP thresholds (20% bonus for 6 months after achieving 60k LP; 30% for 6 months after achieving 100k LP). Further information on LP Reward bonuses here and on this FT thread. LP Reward bonuses do not generate additional RDMs. LP Reward bonuses will be added automatically to your total LP earnings when your hotel stay posts to AA.com, see questions 6 and 7 below.

c. via AA co-branded credit card You will also earn 1 LP and (generally) 1 RDM for every dollar charged to an AA credit card, as you would for any purchase. AA Hotels stays are not considered “eligible AA purchases” for purposes of increased miles earnings on AA credit cards. However, holders of the Citi AA Executive Mastercard will earn an additional 9x RDM per dollar spent on AAHotels (for a total of 10 RDM per dollar). LPs and RDMs earned by credit card spend, including the 9x bonus RDMs earned by Executive cardolders, will post to AA.com after statement closing.
2a. If I'm approved for an AA credit card, how long will it take for my "AA Cardholder" status to be updated on the Book AA Hotels website?
YMMV. Reports here have varied from 1 day to several weeks. Citi appears to be faster than Barclay's.

3. What is the max LPs for a booking?
You can earn up to 15,000 LPs max per booking. During the checkout process you will be offered an opportunity purchase additional miles (aka "boost"), but boost miles only add RDM to your earnings, not LPs.

4. What hotels earn miles?
Since July 2023, all hotels on AAdvantage Hotels earn miles. The total will be listed on the search page and you can sort results to find the highest earning hotel for your particular journey parameters.

5. Can I earn miles booking for someone else?
Since July 2023, the booking name must match the name of the AAdvantage account attached to the AAdvantage Hotel account to earn miles. This is further specified in the T&C.

6. Are points awarded based on check-in or check-out date?
Check-in date.

7. How quickly do points post?
Expect points to post approximately 2 weeks after check-out. If points have not posted within a month, contact AAdvantage Hotels customer support.

8. I'm having an issue with my booking. Who should I contact?
If it is an issue regarding the property directly, contact the hotel you've booked with. If the issue is with points or booking, contact AAdvantage Hotels/Booking.com. If a bonus earning has not been properly applied, contact AAdvantage Customer Service. If an issue requires escalation, contact Booking.com through the following channel: [email protected].

9. Will I earn hotel points or get hotel elite benefits in my hotel loyalty program if I book thru Rocketmiles/AAdvantage Hotels?
Unlikely, but occasionally people have posted they got elite benefits or a mistaken hotel credit. Since a hotel room booked thru RM/AA hotels is a 3rd party booking, most hotel stay programs exclude giving any credits or benefit for stays booked thru methods like this. Expect to earn nothing and get no benefits. Anything extra is a nice surprise. You can ask the hotel to add your hotel membership number to your reservation at some point such as before your stay or in person once you arrive, but be prepared for a firm "No."



WARNING: ALL INFORMATION FROM THIS POINT FORWARD REFLECTS THE PROGRAM AS IT EXISTED AS OF 7/13/23. THIS INFORMATION IS HERE PURELY FOR THOSE WITH EXISTING BOOKINGS. IF YOU HAVE QUERIES ABOUT THE CURRENT PROGRAM, PLEASE SCROLL UP.

This Wiki will be built out over time. To begin, we are going to cover a list of the most frequently asked questions in this thread. Over time, we expect to add to this guide with official information from Booking and/or AA, as well as guides on how to best optimise your earning on these wonderful platforms.

1a. Do the points earned on RM/BAAH count towards my annual qualification as Loyalty Points (LPs)?
Yes - the points earned for your booking, as well as the paid multiplier points, are both referred to (and post as) "base miles". This means they count towards your annual status progression.

1b. Which hotels on RM/BAAH earn Loyalty Points?
For RocketMiles, this is easy: once you have selected AA as your frequent flyer program, all hotels that show up in the search results will earn LPs.
The BookAAHotels interface is more complicated -- some hotels that show up in the search results will not earn LPs. LP-earning hotels will have a banner in the search results saying "Earn XX,XXX Base Miles"; no banner means no LPs. Also, before checking out make sure that the "Price Summary" states how many Base Miles (LPs) will be earned after your stay. If no base mile earnings are indicated, you may have
accidentally toggled over to the regular Booking.com site, where you will not earn LPs.

2. Do points post quickly after check out?
Forum Experience: For pre-paid stays, reported posting times have varied between several days after checkout and several weeks. Post-paid stays can take up to 8 weeks to post, as their posting is dependent on communication between the hotel and Booking.com/RM/BAAH.
What BAAH and RM say: For BAAH --
"3-4 weeks". For RM -- "typically within 2 weeks after your stay is completed"" or 6-8 weeks if made through Booking.com

3. For what date will the points for a hotel stay count? If I need points by Feb 28, when should I stay at a hotel?
Forum Experience: As of February 2023, RocketMiles.com appears to post stays on AA as the date of check-out. BookAAHotels, however, appears to post stays as of the date of check-in. So if one is looking to lock in miles for February to count for the qualification period, ensure that your check-out is before the 28th of February and that your stay is pre-paid. This way you are assured of your points posting, regardless of platform, and counting towards qualification before your status drops after March ends.
Per AA.com: "Purchases made with your AAdvantage® credit card will count based on the date the activity posts to your AAdvantage® account. All other flight and partner transactions will count based on the activity date of the flight or other transaction." (emphasis added). See Aadvantage FAQs linked
here

4. I cannot check-out on RocketMiles - help!
First of all, this isn't a question. Second of all, don't fret. There are at least two class of processing problems known on the RM platform. To solve the majority of them, follow these diagnostic pathways:

0. Clear your cache, disable ....... and JS-script blocking software, and turn off your VPN.
1. Try again with the desired credit card but don’t fill out any of the optional information on the address section, only what’s required.
There is a known system with how they handle this info.
1a. Do as above but use your full zip code (this means the 5 required digits and the trailing 4 digits). You can look up your full ZIP here.
2. Push it all the way to the dev team by contacting support via phone. The agent will put you on hold while they reset part of their system.
3. Use another card and keep trying the first card on subsequent purchases until it works again.

If none of the above work, your problem may be related to your account/card being blocked by Booking.com.
To alleviate this, contact [email protected]

While this may not work to correct checkout issues on both sites, you should at least now be able to use RM.

5. My stays haven't posted and it has been well past one week (for pre-paids) or eight weeks (for post-paids)!
Call the phone number for RM/BAAH and ask for a manager who can change the status on your stays to “approved”. Every legitimate stay should then be caught in the next cycle. You may receive duplicate emails about previous stays which already posted; sadly, you will not get double miles but this is a positive sign that your oustanding stays have been successfully processed.

6. How many cents per mile is a good rate?
Ultimately this is up to you. However, at the moment, it appears that RM/BAAH have a floor on their miles at around 2.15 cents per mile. The general consensus on FT seems to be that if you can secure a hotel at 2.5 cents per mile, you have done well.

7. Do I need to stay at a hotel to get points?
As long as it is a pre-paid stay, you will receive the points regardless of your presence at the hotel.

8. Will I have to pay the check-in resort fee if I "no show" the stay?
We only have one report of this happening; however, it is not standard practice for RTI (Booking.com) to pass pre-paid credit card details to the stays, so as-of-now the forum is skeptical of this report without further information.

9. Do I get more miles for selecting a better room?
Unfortunately not. The miles are set on a per-location basis; the only way to get more points is to pay for the multiplier/bonus points. Any more expensive rooms will simply mean you're paying more per-mile on your stay.

10. What is the best way to contact the two sites?
E-mail is always the first line of defense. If you fail to get a response within 48 hours (unless this is extremely time sensitive - then call first) then proceed to the phone line. Do note that many of the agents are extremely new or unfamiliar with certain aspects of the program, so be judicious in utilizing your two best friends: the manager and HUACA (hang up and call again).

11. Why can't I contact AA if I have issues?
They don't run the sites. Booking.com does. If you are having a REAL issue (that is, not that your miles didn’t post 15 minutes after checkout, but a technical problem, etc.) a recommended point of contact is
[email protected].

12. How do I view only the hotels that award miles on BAAH?
You can't.

13. How do I sort hotels by most points awarded on BAAH?
You can't.

14. How can I see the total stay cost on BAAH on the search screen (as on RM)?
You can't.

15. So then why should I use BAAH?
You shouldn't.

OK, this is a bit of a lie. It is often the occasion that BAAH will offer a slightly higher mileage reward or a hotel that isn't present on RM. Most users will find their target hotel on RM and then do a final sanity check on BAAH to make sure they aren't ignoring a better deal. We certainly recommend this until the UI/UX experience on BAAH is improved.

Also (new in 2023) BAAH is a "select partner" that benefits from LP bonuses (20% for 6 months after achieving 60k LP; 30% for 6 months after achieving 100k LP). RM is not a "select partner" so no bonus LP will be awarded. Note that the bonus is LP only (no bonus RDM are awarded). Although there as some data points with members receiving LP bonuses for the actual stay that put them over the bonus level, AA's official response has been that you'll only receive the bonus LPs for stays completed after you achieve the new bonus level.

16. Can I book a room for someone else but still get the miles in my account?
Yes, if you book through RM. No, if you book through BAAH.

Also, both RM and BAAH will let you book multiple rooms under a single reservation, but the rooms will all be non-refundable. (Booking a single room shows refundable options.)

17. Which year will my LPs count for if I check in a hotel in February but check out in March?
RM stays have their posting date effective the check OUT date.
BAAH stays have their posting date effective the check IN date.
Given the LP program is new for 2022, we assume AA will treat hotel bookings from BAAH and RM the same as a flight taken on Feb 28: LPs will count effective for the date of the posting from RM or BAAH, not the date your account actually gets miles added. Will be updated in March once we have reports

18. Will I earn points in my hotel loyalty program if I book thru RM or BAAH?
Unlikely, but occasionally people have posted they got elite benefits or a mistaken hotel credit, but it's a 3rd party booking, so most hotel stay programs exclude earning for stays booked thru methods like this. Expect to earn nothing and get no benefits. Anything extra is a nice surprise.




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Old Mar 29, 2022, 10:38 pm
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Join Date: May 2015
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My RM base miles were finally posted this morning
(back-dated to 3/10). Unfortunately, my boost miles weren't posted, so I don't know whether they will be treated as LPs.

Seems like I need to call RM again to find out what happened to my bonus miles. Not a good first experience for me with RM.
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Old Mar 30, 2022, 5:13 am
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Originally Posted by psusaver
Booked a stay on March 11th-12th, and the AA miles haven't posted still. I called up rocketmail yesterday and they said they have sent it, "will take some more time, prob 10 days for it to appear". My rocketmiles account is also brand new so maybe your account needs to be confirmed with AAA
just as others are posted my 500 miles from rocket miles posted yesterday. Rocketmail are also sent me an email saying that my miles had posted now.


Posting date backdated to checkout date, which is nice if needed for status deadlines.

Also when I searched my email I noticed that they had sent an earlier email saying it will be posted by March 24th. They need to change name to Bullockcartmiles judging by speed of posting 😂.

Anyhow I'm not too impressed with the rocket miles system having already used bookaahotels a few times before.
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Old Mar 30, 2022, 5:50 am
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My 2 night stay in Boston booked 3/7 on AAHotles for a stay on 3/11 finally posted for 9k + 8k boost.. All 17k points posted as Loyalty Points. Points were backdated to 3/7.
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Old Mar 30, 2022, 6:28 am
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Mine got posted, too. It looks like they run a big batch for the whole month....
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Old Mar 30, 2022, 7:11 am
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Join Date: Jul 2008
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My BAAH points posted this morning (3 weeks after check out) in two transactions - base and bonus - all as LP. I did email them this weekend and they responded yesterday and said 4 weeks.
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Old Mar 30, 2022, 7:38 am
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Also posted

Mine from 3/12 also posted. Including all boost or extra miles from BookAA hotels.
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Old Mar 30, 2022, 7:58 am
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My miles posted from bAAh also this morning, joining the trend. interestingly they seem to be backdated to the purchase date instead of the stay/checkout date?

I did both the room selection boost and the checkout boost, and they all counted!

The base miles and boost miles posted as two transactions, but all counted as loyalty points.
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Old Mar 30, 2022, 9:46 am
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Originally Posted by nk15
Mine got posted, too. It looks like they run a big batch for the whole month....
That's what it looks like. I had two separate stays over a couple of days apart and both posted today.
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Old Mar 30, 2022, 9:50 am
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My 13K Rocketmiles posted yesterday, and then my 22.5K bookaahotels miles posted today. The two Rocketmiles were backdated to the checkout dates in early-to-mid-March. The two bookaahotels stays were backdated even earlier, to the dates on which I had made and prepaid for the reservations.

I had double-boosted both bookaahotels reservations, and both are divided into two transactions on my AAdvsntage activity, but all are denoted as base miles and earned LPs.

One of my two bookaahotel reservations was an experimental no-show. I prepaid about $130 and received 500 points + 2000 boost points + 2000 enhance-your-rewards points. It posted today along with the other stay, which was an actual hotel stay. The system did not seem to make any distinction. So this means that if you had 110K LPs from flying — which would be my normal pattern in a typical year — you could get the other 90K miles to retain EXP for $2600 (20 stays @ $130) even without any eshopping, credit card spend, or physical hotel stays. (Maybe even less, because there may be even better hotel deals out there. The best values I found were all $50-ish one-night stays that offered 500 miles, plus $80 for the two sets of boost miles.)

I will not need to do any more of these this year, because I will be at 130K when my just-completed Finnair flights (BKK-HEL-ARN-LAX) post, and I will reach 200K later in the year with flying and normal credit card spend. A few hotel stays might help my wife, who has been reaching EXP each year mainly via a few discount-Biz overseas trips on partner airlines. But she typically flies fewer than 30 segments and therefore wiuld not get the SWUs, so buying up to EXP just for domestic upgrade priority probably does not make sense.
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Old Mar 30, 2022, 10:55 am
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Glad to see these are all posting! Any data points from folks who booked on behalf of someone else but entered their AAdvantage number? The checkout page does say the name of the guest on the reservation must match the AA account, so curious if the system catches that.
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Old Mar 30, 2022, 11:10 am
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Originally Posted by Assimilated Cajun
My 13K Rocketmiles posted yesterday, and then my 22.5K bookaahotels miles posted today. The two Rocketmiles were backdated to the checkout dates in early-to-mid-March. The two bookaahotels stays were backdated even earlier, to the dates on which I had made and prepaid for the reservations.

I had double-boosted both bookaahotels reservations, and both are divided into two transactions on my AAdvsntage activity, but all are denoted as base miles and earned LPs.

One of my two bookaahotel reservations was an experimental no-show. I prepaid about $130 and received 500 points + 2000 boost points + 2000 enhance-your-rewards points. It posted today along with the other stay, which was an actual hotel stay. The system did not seem to make any distinction. So this means that if you had 110K LPs from flying — which would be my normal pattern in a typical year — you could get the other 90K miles to retain EXP for $2600 (20 stays @ $130) even without any eshopping, credit card spend, or physical hotel stays. (Maybe even less, because there may be even better hotel deals out there. The best values I found were all $50-ish one-night stays that offered 500 miles, plus $80 for the two sets of boost miles.)

I will not need to do any more of these this year, because I will be at 130K when my just-completed Finnair flights (BKK-HEL-ARN-LAX) post, and I will reach 200K later in the year with flying and normal credit card spend. A few hotel stays might help my wife, who has been reaching EXP each year mainly via a few discount-Biz overseas trips on partner airlines. But she typically flies fewer than 30 segments and therefore wiuld not get the SWUs, so buying up to EXP just for domestic upgrade priority probably dies not make sense.
Great data points that exactly mirror my experience, including the no-show "stay". Seems like all the skeptics were wrong!

Has anyone had RM boost miles successfully post as base yet? We don't seem to have clarity on this issue.
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Old Mar 30, 2022, 12:47 pm
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Originally Posted by vasantn
Great data points that exactly mirror my experience, including the no-show "stay". Seems like all the skeptics were wrong!

Has anyone had RM boost miles successfully post as base yet? We don't seem to have clarity on this issue.
My biggest question for the no show will be what happens for a Vegas booking. I think i'm going to test it out and see what happens to the resort fee when I don't actually show. Vegas seems to have pretty good deals on miles, I think I'm seeing 24-28 LP per Dollar.
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Old Mar 30, 2022, 8:38 pm
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Join Date: Dec 2014
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RM told me normally they do rolling postings but there was a system issue and this must be the big batch catch up. In the past my miles posted within a few days of checkout (both RM and BAAH).
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Old Mar 30, 2022, 8:48 pm
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Originally Posted by vasantn
Great data points that exactly mirror my experience, including the no-show "stay". Seems like all the skeptics were wrong!
Just wanted to say that you gave me the "inspiration" to do a throw-away booking to test the waters, so-to-speak. Here's my data point for a bAAh booking which I didn't use. I received the postings to my account today, about 3 weeks after the booking date. There were two separate postings (both of which posted as base points, and thus, earned LPs). The first posting was for the standard AA miles offered for the hotel. The second posting (4,000 miles) was for the "get more miles" and the subsequent "boost". All this for just under $120 and around 5,000 RDMs/LPs. Not exactly cost-effective, but I wanted to try this out in case I need to come up with some LPs on an impending deadline in the future. However, I do plan to stay at these hotels going forward. Doing some searches, I've found several offerings in Central Europe (even in some secondary cities) from around $50-60 per night. Many are hotels I've stayed at, or am familiar with as to where they are exactly located. They seem to offer between 500 and 1,000 miles for the original rate, with the ability to add on 4,000 miles for $80.

On a side note...

The best rates we've seen for hotels in the U.S. offering miles seems to be for hotels in Vegas during the week. Just be aware that the Hilton brand properties there are a little misleading. They tend to offer around 3,000 miles for around $70. But the taxes and fees tend to be around $35-40 more than other hotel offerings. And no, this is not the separate resort fee the hotels charge at check-in..

Another side note... I was not charged the resort fee for my Veags no-show booking. As was asked up-thread. Which is not surprising, because I don't think these hotels have access to one's credit card via the reservation. My guess is that they do some sort of direct billing procedure with Booking dot com to get re-imbursed for these stays.
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Old Mar 30, 2022, 10:15 pm
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Join Date: Nov 2021
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Is there any maximum for points earnings in a week or month? I'm going to be in Vegas and thinking about doing a "tour of hotels" while there, potentially getting 10k a night through BookAA
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