AAdvantage program changes rumored Oct 2021
#166


Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 4,651
...Guess not. Treating the very customers that fund their paychecks with dignity and respect makes too much sense.
#167


Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: LAX/SFO
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FYI there are various dates with 35k-38.5k flagship F awards available for LAX-JFK/BOS etc -- I just bought a half-dozen in case of a sudden devaluation
ETA - got some 30k BOS-LAX in January too (Flagship F on the 321)... no FFD on the BOS side but still a good deal
ETA - got some 30k BOS-LAX in January too (Flagship F on the 321)... no FFD on the BOS side but still a good deal
Didn't know AA sold LAX-BOS A321T as Flagship F, very cool. I feel 17.5k J on the A321T is a better deal than 30k F though. You could book almost 2 J seats!
Also in terms of dates, the annual TPG Loyalty Awards that AAdvantage sent an email asking everyone to vote for closes voting on Friday Oct 15, 2021. One would think they'd hold off devaluing before then to avoid a torrent of hate voting.
Last edited by aquanine; Oct 5, 2021 at 11:33 pm Reason: TPG
#168



Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Live: IWI; Work: DCA/Everywhere; Play: LAS/SJU/MLE
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I doubt they would devalue the domestic web specials (which I love). Those are already fully dynamic so they don't need an announcement. What is more likely to devalue are partner awards.
Didn't know AA sold LAX-BOS A321T as Flagship F, very cool. I feel 17.5k J on the A321T is a better deal than 30k F though. You could book almost 2 J seats!
Didn't know AA sold LAX-BOS A321T as Flagship F, very cool. I feel 17.5k J on the A321T is a better deal than 30k F though. You could book almost 2 J seats!
As for 17.5 J vs. 30k F, F comes with FFD and no neighbor on the 321T which is easily worth 12.5k to me, though maybe not for everyone.
#170
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Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: NYC
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My psychological limit is $2.5k for international J roundtrips, assuming there is either an ultra long haul (>12hours) each way, or two long hauls (>8-9hrs) each way. I think I have only paid $2.4k once for 24 hours in the air each way (and got 100kRDMs and 2 SWUs in return). For one long haul and one short/medium haul each way, my limit is around $1.7k
I could see myself perhaps paying up to $2.9k roundtrip, if requalification is at stake, or if it contains one ultra long haul and one long haul on QR each way...Like LAX-DOH-DPS, for example
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My preferred limit is up to $1600, though....
I could see myself perhaps paying up to $2.9k roundtrip, if requalification is at stake, or if it contains one ultra long haul and one long haul on QR each way...Like LAX-DOH-DPS, for example
.My preferred limit is up to $1600, though....

[PREM FARE GONE] AA DCA-PEK sub-$450 a/i rt in J
Last edited by vasantn; Oct 6, 2021 at 7:13 am
#171




Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: DEN
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Honestly - if this rumored devaluation is a just a devaluing of RDMs, I don't care one bit.
Miles just pile up in my account unused and ridiculously easy to earn. They don't have anything to do with why I fly or why I fly AA.
Miles just pile up in my account unused and ridiculously easy to earn. They don't have anything to do with why I fly or why I fly AA.
#172




Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: DCA
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Posts: 177
Does this mean the credit card pitches will have to be changed because you won't be able to get a round trip ticket for less than 60,000 miles anymore.....
#173
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My preferred limit is actually $400. Unfortunately I only got that the one time, on a mistake ~$400 J fare to PEK. 
[PREM FARE GONE] AA DCA-PEK sub-$450 a/i rt in J

[PREM FARE GONE] AA DCA-PEK sub-$450 a/i rt in J
#174
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As we are about to face the double whammy of the impending likely harsh devaluation, and the re-opening of the US, we would likely look back at this past year, year and a half, as a really good year of travel opportunities, and perhaps the last one....Think about it, half-empty planes, good saver availability and lower fares, and easy cancellations and redeposits. Not to mention that many people could live and WFH from anywhere in the world. An unprecedented opportunity in modern history, for some.
Enjoy the last month.
Enjoy the last month.
Last edited by nk15; Oct 6, 2021 at 11:38 am
#175
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As we are about to face the double whammy of the impending likely harsh devaluation, and the re-opening of the US, we would likely look back at this past year, year and a half, as a really good year of travel opportunities, and perhaps the last one....Think about it, half-empty planes, good saver availability and lower fares, and easy cancellations and redeposits. Enjoy the last month.
#176


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Am I the only person here who keeps checking this thread multiple times per day to see if the hammer has dropped.???
#177


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#178




Join Date: Sep 2017
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In addition to award trips already ticketed for next year to the French Polynesian islands, the Maldives, and Tanzania/Zanzibar, I'm planning to reserve additional awards this week with the remaining ~ 350K miles in my account. Just to mitigate the possible massive devaluations to partner awards.
It's with a feeling of resignation however. First, I have to figure out if I can afford the time and $$$ for all of these additional trips crammed into a relatively short amount of time. If I "have" to take them all, I doubt they'll be the way I'd normally want them to be for once in a lifetime type trips. Second, award tickets aren't readily available yet for the experiences and destinations I'd like to use them for. Like the A380 Etihad first class apartment flight. Many destinations still aren't open or have gone by the wayside, at least with AA award tickets. Like my trip Tasmania/Australia and Easter Island trips planned for 2019.
Worse though, is wondering if award mitigations will prove futile to a certain extent anyway. i.e., how many trips ticketed now will actually happen? My last three attempts to book Qatar award tickets to Africa have basically been cancelled due to schedule changes so significant they couldn't be mitigated. If this continues to happen after devaluations rescheduling due to IRROPS, closed destinations, or other reasons might not even be possible. I'm not sure how that works, but I'm guessing business RT award tickets for 160,000 miles won't be honored if the current rate is 320,000 miles. (??)
Oh well.... First World problems indeed.....
It's with a feeling of resignation however. First, I have to figure out if I can afford the time and $$$ for all of these additional trips crammed into a relatively short amount of time. If I "have" to take them all, I doubt they'll be the way I'd normally want them to be for once in a lifetime type trips. Second, award tickets aren't readily available yet for the experiences and destinations I'd like to use them for. Like the A380 Etihad first class apartment flight. Many destinations still aren't open or have gone by the wayside, at least with AA award tickets. Like my trip Tasmania/Australia and Easter Island trips planned for 2019.
Worse though, is wondering if award mitigations will prove futile to a certain extent anyway. i.e., how many trips ticketed now will actually happen? My last three attempts to book Qatar award tickets to Africa have basically been cancelled due to schedule changes so significant they couldn't be mitigated. If this continues to happen after devaluations rescheduling due to IRROPS, closed destinations, or other reasons might not even be possible. I'm not sure how that works, but I'm guessing business RT award tickets for 160,000 miles won't be honored if the current rate is 320,000 miles. (??)
Oh well.... First World problems indeed.....
#179


Join Date: Aug 2021
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Am I correct that there’s no downside to speculative bookings right now? Cancellations and miles re-deposits are entirely without penalty? Thanks.
#180




Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: DCA/IAD & BUF
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Yes, I think so, as of now. That's why I'll go ahead and commit the miles sooner rather than later, even if none of the trips work out in the end. I'd be kicking myself hard otherwise.

