Jan 18, 2021, 1:06 am
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Welcome to the archived 2021 "NEWBIE LOUNGE"Ask Your Consolidated / Combined AA Questions Here (flame free)
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Welcome to the Newbie Lounge!
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Check out the following resources:
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Forum basics: Now that the new AA has become by some measures "the world's largest airline", this new, combined has become a "mega-forum", very large, very active - and theoretically very difficult to find information and easy to lose one's place. Having to search for and sort through dozens - or more - of threads on baggage, airports, minimum connect times or the like could soon become unproductive and discouraging.
To prevent this from occurring, please note we try to:
Keep a few "sticky" threads: such as GUIDE posts, OSO / IROPS, etc. for urgent and quick reference, such as basic "where do I find" reasons
Keep threads to specific topics: Prevent information fragmentation and loss by consolidating questions, answers and discussion of one topic contained in one thread. (This also honors those members who have already shared valuable information and experiences.)
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You may find your question or post merged into one of those threads. Be sure that we will leave a link behind from your original thread, and to look up to see if there's a wiki with information. We apologize for any possible inconvenience or difference between this forum and others, but we think you'll like some of the resources and tools here to enable more convenient, comfortable travel on AA and greater knowledge sharing.
Keep it welcoming: We're proud the members of both FFPs have kept the brickbats to a minimum; we want this forum to be welcoming, civil and information rich, so name calling (including calling a member one disagrees with "AApologist") and snark are not tolerated. Posts with such are likely to be summarily deleted in their entirety; repeated such behavior may result in suspension of one's membership privileges or being banned from this forum. Let's keep it friendly and in accordance with the FT Rules.
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NOTE: 2020 NEWBIE LOUNGE posts are here.
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The 2016 AA NEWBIE LOUNGE post thread is here
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Welcome to the Newbie Lounge!
Welcome to Flyertalk!
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The Newbie Lounge is a place for newer and less experienced members to ask their questions about American Airlines and the AAdvantage program and have answered by our more experienced and knowledgeable members. Feel free to ask any question related to American Airlines and AAdvantage here.
NOTE: This is a "flame free" thread; flaming, personal criticism for "failing to search" etc. is not allowed (if posted, the post will be summarily deleted, the poster subject to sanctions).
Advanced questions posed by veteran FT users may be moved and / or merged into existing master or GUIDE threads, most of which have Wikiposts at the top of the page that contain summaries of important information.
We volunteer Moderators monitor this "lounge" thread to assist you as well. When browsing the fora, look at the page tops of the various forums. There will be a menu, and often "sticky" threads, and threads with header "wiki posts" (created and maintained by the FlyerTalk community) with important information relating to that forum / topic.
Don't hesitate to contact a moderator or another member if you have any additional questions. You can PM the Moderators by clicking on
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Your American Airlines | AAdvantage Forum Moderation Team,
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(Our thanks to thread founder / "plank owner" HNL.)
Link to American Airlines Conditions of Carriage
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NOTE: See below for links to the archived older threads.
Q. How can I find information more easily than reading through all the threads? Now that I'm here, what do I do next?
Check out the following resources:
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- Airport Code Guide (How do I decode an airport code / find one for a city?)
Searching can be key to finding important information and answers without waiting for someone to drop by and answer, and it helps prevent that information fragmentation. FlyerTalk Advanced Search can seem quirky to the infrequent user, but it's fairly powerful if one knows how to use it. There are several ways to search:
- Canarsie's Using the Search Feature on FlyerTalk: The Definitive Thread has relocated to the Information Desk Forum; it can be found there.
- One can search FlyerTalk with Google with this web form.
- Or, if you are used to Google search, use Google Advanced Search and insert www.flyertalk.com in the "site or domain" box.
Forum basics: Now that the new AA has become by some measures "the world's largest airline", this new, combined has become a "mega-forum", very large, very active - and theoretically very difficult to find information and easy to lose one's place. Having to search for and sort through dozens - or more - of threads on baggage, airports, minimum connect times or the like could soon become unproductive and discouraging.
To prevent this from occurring, please note we try to:
Keep a few "sticky" threads: such as GUIDE posts, OSO / IROPS, etc. for urgent and quick reference, such as basic "where do I find" reasons
Keep threads to specific topics: Prevent information fragmentation and loss by consolidating questions, answers and discussion of one topic contained in one thread. (This also honors those members who have already shared valuable information and experiences.)
"Popular" threads are likely to have a Wikipost at the head that will summarize important information and have resource links. These are "community property", and as any wiki are established, maintained and updated by the members (with 90 days of tenure and 90 posts on FlyerTalk).
You may find your question or post merged into one of those threads. Be sure that we will leave a link behind from your original thread, and to look up to see if there's a wiki with information. We apologize for any possible inconvenience or difference between this forum and others, but we think you'll like some of the resources and tools here to enable more convenient, comfortable travel on AA and greater knowledge sharing.
Keep it welcoming: We're proud the members of both FFPs have kept the brickbats to a minimum; we want this forum to be welcoming, civil and information rich, so name calling (including calling a member one disagrees with "AApologist") and snark are not tolerated. Posts with such are likely to be summarily deleted in their entirety; repeated such behavior may result in suspension of one's membership privileges or being banned from this forum. Let's keep it friendly and in accordance with the FT Rules.
FlyerTalk Rules (We all agree to abide by these, and are held accountable.)
NOTE: 2020 NEWBIE LOUNGE posts are here.
2019 NEWBIE LOUNGE older posts are here.
The 2018 AA NEWBIE LOUNGE post thread is here
The 2017 AA NEWBIE LOUNGE post thread is here
The 2016 AA NEWBIE LOUNGE post thread is here
Thanks for reading!
NEWBIE LOUNGE 2021: Ask AA newbie questions here - flame-free thread
May 11, 2021, 7:27 am
#286
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: NYC
Posts: 6,441
As JJeffrey states it depends. If both are on the same calendar day, the computer or an agent could cancel them both. All airlines have a rule about double bookings. In short, you are not allowed to do it.
If you used the miles from the same account and the same name and same information, your risk has increased.
Will it get caught? As JJeffrey states, the answer to this varies from 'probably' to 'no'. Personally, I would not risk it.
If you used the miles from the same account and the same name and same information, your risk has increased.
Will it get caught? As JJeffrey states, the answer to this varies from 'probably' to 'no'. Personally, I would not risk it.
May 11, 2021, 7:42 am
#287
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: RDU <|> MMX
Programs: AA EXP 2MM, SK EBS
Posts: 12,543
The only time where AA's system will arbitrarily cancel duplicate/overlapping bookings is when one or both of the flights are on hold.
May 11, 2021, 3:13 pm
#288
Join Date: Jul 2001
Programs: AA EP
Posts: 2,203
This is not correct. Officially, if the gold is using the plats status then all stickers are suppose to come out of the higher status account.
Since you both have status, if you're on the same PNR and the upgrades clear via the usual process, they will pull your upgrades from your account, and her upgrades from her account. Unfortunately this also means that if things go to the airport list you will be sorted according to your PLT status and she will be lower according to her GLD status.
May 11, 2021, 3:26 pm
#289
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Yes but on the same PNR when both pax have status you have to specifically request the upgrade request be setup such that it leverages the higher status pax (and thus pull all stickers from the higher status account). That was not the case in the scenario above. If the upgrade request is not setup accordingly then the pax will be split on the upgrade list according to each of their status and stickers will be pulled from the individual accounts.
May 12, 2021, 5:59 pm
#290
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: PHX
Programs: AA EXP, IHG Diamond, IC Amb
Posts: 5,518
It’s been a long time since I have flown with a companion on a domestic flight.
I am EXP, my companion is Gold.
It says the UG for me is Complimentary…but it says my companion will require 2 500-mile certs for each way.
I thought 1 companion got complimentary upgrades with me on my PNR and inherited my status for the flights. Is this not true? I don’t remember 500-mile Certs being pulled when I traveled 3-4 years ago with a gf multiple times.
I am EXP, my companion is Gold.
It says the UG for me is Complimentary…but it says my companion will require 2 500-mile certs for each way.
I thought 1 companion got complimentary upgrades with me on my PNR and inherited my status for the flights. Is this not true? I don’t remember 500-mile Certs being pulled when I traveled 3-4 years ago with a gf multiple times.
May 12, 2021, 7:36 pm
#291
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Madison WI
Programs: AA Lifetime PLT - 2.9MM, Lifetime AC, HHonors Gold, Marriott Gold, IHG Plat Amb, Hertz Precs Crcl
Posts: 2,220
It’s been a long time since I have flown with a companion on a domestic flight.
I am EXP, my companion is Gold.
It says the UG for me is Complimentary…but it says my companion will require 2 500-mile certs for each way.
I thought 1 companion got complimentary upgrades with me on my PNR and inherited my status for the flights. Is this not true? I don’t remember 500-mile Certs being pulled when I traveled 3-4 years ago with a gf multiple times.
I am EXP, my companion is Gold.
It says the UG for me is Complimentary…but it says my companion will require 2 500-mile certs for each way.
I thought 1 companion got complimentary upgrades with me on my PNR and inherited my status for the flights. Is this not true? I don’t remember 500-mile Certs being pulled when I traveled 3-4 years ago with a gf multiple times.
the required amount of stcikers must be pulled from somewhere, per policy, for flights over 500 miles.
Last edited by Madison Guy; May 12, 2021 at 7:44 pm
May 13, 2021, 1:47 pm
#292
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Chicago
Programs: AAdvantage EXP | United Silver | HH Diamond | Bonvoy Platinum | Hyatt Explorist
Posts: 718
Yes but on the same PNR when both pax have status you have to specifically request the upgrade request be setup such that it leverages the higher status pax (and thus pull all stickers from the higher status account). That was not the case in the scenario above. If the upgrade request is not setup accordingly then the pax will be split on the upgrade list according to each of their status and stickers will be pulled from the individual accounts.
May 13, 2021, 10:13 pm
#293
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 336
Hello friends! Does a non-status passenger flying First Class LAX->BOS get any lounge access? While that route used to qualify, they seem to have removed that particular transcon from the access-qualifying routes on the web site.
May 13, 2021, 10:54 pm
#294
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Chicago
Programs: AAdvantage EXP | United Silver | HH Diamond | Bonvoy Platinum | Hyatt Explorist
Posts: 718
Hello friends! Does a non-status passenger flying First Class LAX->BOS get any lounge access? While that route used to qualify, they seem to have removed that particular transcon from the access-qualifying routes on the web site.
May 14, 2021, 3:37 am
#295
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Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Istanbul, Turkey
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Hello friends! Does a non-status passenger flying First Class LAX->BOS get any lounge access? While that route used to qualify, they seem to have removed that particular transcon from the access-qualifying routes on the web site.
May 14, 2021, 5:59 am
#296
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Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: RDU <|> MMX
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What would happen if person A has a higher status and has a confirmed upgrade, than Person B, and there is one seat left but a couple traveling with a higher status than person B, would the system know to upgrade the one person over them since they want two seats, or am I putting way too much faith in AA's tech stack?
May 14, 2021, 11:51 am
#297
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Chicago
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Posts: 718
May 15, 2021, 11:21 am
#298
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 187
Long layover in DFW. Lounge access?
So I’m booked today YYZ-DFW-SFO. Travelling in paid business. Had a 1-hr layover in DFW, but flight out of YYZ was delayed almost an hour. The only other flight I could get leaves Dallas 5 hrs later. Rebooked it, only to find out the DFW-SFO flight is also delayed so I could have made it, but that flight is now full.
A long-winded way of saying: can I spend my 5hr layover in DFW in the lounge? It’s a business/first itinerary originating in Canada. But the stopover flight is the US domestic leg. Thanks!
A long-winded way of saying: can I spend my 5hr layover in DFW in the lounge? It’s a business/first itinerary originating in Canada. But the stopover flight is the US domestic leg. Thanks!
May 15, 2021, 12:23 pm
#299
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So I’m booked today YYZ-DFW-SFO. Travelling in paid business. Had a 1-hr layover in DFW, but flight out of YYZ was delayed almost an hour. The only other flight I could get leaves Dallas 5 hrs later. Rebooked it, only to find out the DFW-SFO flight is also delayed so I could have made it, but that flight is now full.
A long-winded way of saying: can I spend my 5hr layover in DFW in the lounge? It’s a business/first itinerary originating in Canada. But the stopover flight is the US domestic leg. Thanks!
A long-winded way of saying: can I spend my 5hr layover in DFW in the lounge? It’s a business/first itinerary originating in Canada. But the stopover flight is the US domestic leg. Thanks!
May 15, 2021, 3:20 pm
#300
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 187
Great thank you! I was aware of the change in April for lounge access, but unclear whether that was only for the international leg (ie Canada - though the lounge at YYZ is still closed.) I will test this shortly once we get to the gate, if I’m unable to rebook on an earlier connection.