AA Penalty for Selling My AA Miles
Aug 14, 2019, 7:42 am
#46
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I am going to contest the email and prove she is my aunt.
I did post the AD on CL and had people reach out to me but no sale ever went thru.
My ad on CL stated 300K miles for sale, because I had more and I was struggling to get tickets for my travel so I deiced to see if I can sell and get my money back for what I paid for. I know they linked me thru my number because my ad did have my number posted and then with the timing me booking a ticket for my aunt for next year just collided thinking I sold my miles
I did post the AD on CL and had people reach out to me but no sale ever went thru.
My ad on CL stated 300K miles for sale, because I had more and I was struggling to get tickets for my travel so I deiced to see if I can sell and get my money back for what I paid for. I know they linked me thru my number because my ad did have my number posted and then with the timing me booking a ticket for my aunt for next year just collided thinking I sold my miles
Aug 14, 2019, 7:50 am
#47
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I doubt that AA cares or that it matters that your aunt's ticket was not purchased by her in violation of the program.
AA has not focused on your aunt, rather it has expressly told you that your violation was in offering the miles for sale.
Cancelling outstanding tickets such as your aunt's is likely necessary to meet the penalty.
But, it does not hurt to send an email. Don't expect anything positive.
AA has not focused on your aunt, rather it has expressly told you that your violation was in offering the miles for sale.
Cancelling outstanding tickets such as your aunt's is likely necessary to meet the penalty.
But, it does not hurt to send an email. Don't expect anything positive.
Aug 14, 2019, 7:50 am
#48
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If OP is being honest, I’m not sure it’s the same thing. Using your analogy, I can’t get a $300 ticket for driving around the parking lot and thinking about parking in a handicapped spot, but then ultimately not doing so.
I do get that TOC state that you cant advertise miles for sale, though.
That is more than driving around the parking lot and thinking about parking in the handicapped spot. He had plunked himself in that slot.
(Maybe, in this analogy, he was still in the car when he got the ticket
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Aug 14, 2019, 7:52 am
#49
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I am going to contest the email and prove she is my aunt.
I did post the AD on CL and had people reach out to me but no sale ever went thru.
My ad on CL stated 300K miles for sale, because I had more and I was struggling to get tickets for my travel so I deiced to see if I can sell and get my money back for what I paid for. I know they linked me thru my number because my ad did have my number posted and then with the timing me booking a ticket for my aunt for next year just collided thinking I sold my miles
I did post the AD on CL and had people reach out to me but no sale ever went thru.
My ad on CL stated 300K miles for sale, because I had more and I was struggling to get tickets for my travel so I deiced to see if I can sell and get my money back for what I paid for. I know they linked me thru my number because my ad did have my number posted and then with the timing me booking a ticket for my aunt for next year just collided thinking I sold my miles
Aug 14, 2019, 7:58 am
#50
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I am going to contest the email and prove she is my aunt.
I did post the AD on CL and had people reach out to me but no sale ever went thru.
My ad on CL stated 300K miles for sale, because I had more and I was struggling to get tickets for my travel so I deiced to see if I can sell and get my money back for what I paid for. I know they linked me thru my number because my ad did have my number posted and then with the timing me booking a ticket for my aunt for next year just collided thinking I sold my miles
I did post the AD on CL and had people reach out to me but no sale ever went thru.
My ad on CL stated 300K miles for sale, because I had more and I was struggling to get tickets for my travel so I deiced to see if I can sell and get my money back for what I paid for. I know they linked me thru my number because my ad did have my number posted and then with the timing me booking a ticket for my aunt for next year just collided thinking I sold my miles
Aug 14, 2019, 8:01 am
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Aug 14, 2019, 8:02 am
#52
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The more you stir this the more it will stink.
Get a new number and move on,
Get a new number and move on,
Aug 14, 2019, 8:04 am
#53
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Aug 14, 2019, 8:05 am
#54
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I am going to contest the email and prove she is my aunt.
I did post the AD on CL and had people reach out to me but no sale ever went thru.
My ad on CL stated 300K miles for sale, because I had more and I was struggling to get tickets for my travel so I deiced to see if I can sell and get my money back for what I paid for. I know they linked me thru my number because my ad did have my number posted and then with the timing me booking a ticket for my aunt for next year just collided thinking I sold my miles
I did post the AD on CL and had people reach out to me but no sale ever went thru.
My ad on CL stated 300K miles for sale, because I had more and I was struggling to get tickets for my travel so I deiced to see if I can sell and get my money back for what I paid for. I know they linked me thru my number because my ad did have my number posted and then with the timing me booking a ticket for my aunt for next year just collided thinking I sold my miles
Aug 14, 2019, 8:07 am
#55
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I don't agree. There had/has to be intermediate (and/or previous) infraction(s) or non responsiveness to have resulted in that and the email the OP posts in his opening post.
Aug 14, 2019, 8:08 am
#56
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AA did wait to act until OP actually redeemed miles for a third party ticket but this may mean nothing. OP's post above also indicates that the account still contains miles and has been left open so that is already a concession by AA. It may still be useful if OP can prove that there was no actual sale of miles even if it doesn't bring them back.
Aug 14, 2019, 8:12 am
#57
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Well is there proof that AA ever saw the Craigslist post? Could it be he bought a huge number of miles then suddenly a ticket not in his name was booked for someone, likely with a different last name and address. There would be no way for AA to ascertain this person is his Aunt but certainly buying a horde of miles and never using them for yourself (or someone in your immediate family with your last name) would look awfully suspicious.
Either way the OP has made his own bed. If he can provide definitive objective proof of his relationship and admit to the attempt to sell miles (which AA might not even know about) he might get back his 300K miles but I wouldn't count on it.
Either way the OP has made his own bed. If he can provide definitive objective proof of his relationship and admit to the attempt to sell miles (which AA might not even know about) he might get back his 300K miles but I wouldn't count on it.
Aug 14, 2019, 8:15 am
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..Could it be he bought a huge number of miles then suddenly a ticket not in his name was booked for someone, likely with a different last name and address. There would be no way for AA to ascertain this person is his Aunt but certainly buying a horde of miles and never using them for yourself (or someone in your immediate family with your last name) would look awfully suspicious.
Aug 14, 2019, 8:21 am
#59
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That phrase follows AA saying that any future violation will result in the account being closed and OP also mentions having 450K miles in total whereas AA only penalised OP by cancelling the 300K advertised. That leads me to believe that AA has already been lenient by revenue protection standards.
Aug 14, 2019, 8:25 am
#60
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Advertising the sale of AA miles openly on the Internet is like a glow post for AA to come after the advertiser who is selling his/her miles and to extract a penalty in the form of seizing the miles being sold (and even more) and/or shutting down the AA account.
History keeps repeating itself in this regard too.
History keeps repeating itself in this regard too.