AA Penalty for Selling My AA Miles
Aug 15, 2019, 1:31 pm
#196
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: DCA
Programs: DL DM, AA EXP, various hotel
Posts: 2,227
I don't think it takes 3 or 4 years of college to understand "Accrued mileage credit and award tickets do not constitute property of the member" means miles and award tickets are not property of the member.
Seriously, I wouldn't trust any tool which states that statement requires 15.43 to 16.45 years of college for it to be undestood
Seriously, I wouldn't trust any tool which states that statement requires 15.43 to 16.45 years of college for it to be undestood
Frankly–I have a law degree, and what it means conceptually for an abstract currency to constitute my property or not is not crystal clear. What it means for a ticket that I have issued to constitute my property or not is even less clear. Contextually, we of course know this means you can't offer it for sale. But that's not intuitive.
Aug 15, 2019, 2:15 pm
#197
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: The FT AA forum, until it no longer wants me.
Programs: CK or bust
Posts: 1,913
This ain't no DeltAA here.
Aug 15, 2019, 3:12 pm
#198
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: DEN
Programs: AA EXP, AA Million Miles, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 2,586
Can I ask you honestly have you read ALL the T&Cs to ALL the programs you belong to before you joined up? and do so every couple of months since they do change from time to time. Do you actually turn the rental car contract over and read every single word and question what you dont fully understand before signing that contract and driving the car? etc etc Id bet you dont!
Not sure why you keep harping on car rentals but I'll play along.
No I don't generally read the T&Cs for a car rental when I'm going to use it for normal low risk activity that would be expected use: i.e. driving from the airport to my hotel to my meeting and back to airport. I assume that this is use covered by the T&Cs and willingly accept the low to non-existent risk that it's not. And I sure as heck do know what is in my personal auto insurance policy.
But if I think I'm going to do anything outside the norm with the rental car - say start using it to provide Uber service or take it off-roading - then you can bet I am going to review the T&Cs to see what it says.
Aug 15, 2019, 3:26 pm
#199
Suspended
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Watchlisted by the prejudiced, en route to purgatory
Programs: Just Say No to Fleecing and Blacklisting
Posts: 102,095
Even while mileage brokers aren’t permitted (by the airline program), premium cabin award space can still dry up or have extreme redemption rates. It’s the airline program’s sandbox in which the customers play, but either way the airlines do find ways to fleece the customers of the programs. Trying to blame mileage brokers and their users for airline programs’ devaluations really doesn’t fly well upon closer examination.
Aug 15, 2019, 3:29 pm
#200
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: DEN
Programs: AA EXP, AA Million Miles, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 2,586
As for the particular term you singled out, the Flesch-Kinkaid Grade Level test puts it at 15.43. This means that it's generally understandable by people with three years of college and above. The similar Automated Readability Index puts it at 16.45, which means the reading level is post-graduate.
That's not clear and direct—and if it's intended to be well understood by a majority of the population, very badly executed..
That's not clear and direct—and if it's intended to be well understood by a majority of the population, very badly executed..
Are you sure about those results? I just ran the sentence " Accrued mileage credit and award tickets do not constitute property of the member" through Word's readability statistics tool. It came back as Flesch-Kincaid Grade Level 10.3.
That's sophomore year of U.S. high school. 15-16 year olds.
The key part of that sentence: "do not constitute property of the member" is even simpler.
Aug 15, 2019, 3:30 pm
#201
Senior Moderator and Moderator: American AAdvantage & TravelBuzz
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: BOS
Programs: AA EXP, Marriott Titanium
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Folks - unfortunately, dozens of posts have already been removed for being off-topic, snarky, or personal. This thread is going to take a little nap to let folks cool off (and to give the mod team some time to send out a few...personalised notes...).
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