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Rumor, Speculation: AAdvantage Program Devaluation 31 Jul 2019

Rumor, Speculation: AAdvantage Program Devaluation 31 Jul 2019

Old May 30, 19, 5:13 pm
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Rumor, Speculation: AAdvantage Program Devaluation 31 Jul 2019

Never enjoy seeing Twitter updates like this from @JonNYC


AAdvantage project, date of 31JUL19, looks to be potentially major. And, from my very, very, very, very, very cursory look/understanding of it, negative.
Dynamic award pricing, upgrades...
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Old May 30, 19, 5:54 pm
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SWUís only from Y-W or W-J or J-F is my expectation

Really donít know how many more of these devaluations I can sit through while they make us spend more and decreases upgrades and make the domestic experience even worse.
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Old May 30, 19, 5:57 pm
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Old May 30, 19, 6:04 pm
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Originally Posted by AANYC1981 View Post
SWU’s only from Y-W or W-J or J-F is my expectation
This is what scares me the most and I expect it’s coming.

This would be the fatal blow for the (barely) value added feature of EXP status.
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Old May 30, 19, 6:13 pm
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Donít be surprised if AA tacks on fare class restrictions to SWUs.
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Old May 30, 19, 6:15 pm
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Donít be surprised if AA tacks on fare class restrictions to SWUs.
Ala UA for their GPUís.
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Donít be surprised if AA tacks on fare class restrictions to SWUs.
No foundation at this juncture
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Old May 30, 19, 6:20 pm
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Originally Posted by golfingboy View Post
Don’t be surprised if AA tacks on fare class restrictions to SWUs.
Questions, questions.

Was the introduction of dynamic AAnytime wards the first link?

Was the introduction of the Economy Web Special Award another link leading to dynamic pricing awards / no charts?
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/amer...ct-2018-a.html
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Old May 30, 19, 6:22 pm
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Originally Posted by JDiver View Post
Questions, questions.

Was the introduction of dynamic AAnytime wards the first link?

Was the introduction of the Economy Web Special Award another link leading to dynamic pricing awards / no charts?
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/amer...ct-2018-a.html
All of these are why I posted in the other thread that Dynamic Pricing at this point should surprise no one. Let's hope it does not impact partners.

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Old May 30, 19, 6:22 pm
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Dynamic award pricing is inevitable and would have absolutely zero impact on how I view the program.

Changes to SWUs, OTOH, would.

That said - I'll react when there's something to actually react to. Rumors do nothing for me.
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Old May 30, 19, 6:25 pm
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They simply canít make SWU Y->W. In terms of value, that would be devastating. That has been rumoured countless number of times, and every time it has been proven to be unfounded.

Surely JonNYC can quash it again this time around.

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Old May 30, 19, 6:32 pm
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Call me crazy but I donít mind the economy web special fares... Iíve found some good deals there.

anytime I can fly SFO-DFW for 16k miles on Memorial Day booking 6 days out... canít complain.
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Old May 30, 19, 6:39 pm
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Any guesses if these changes would be implemented with no notice? Or if we would have a few months to take advantage of the existing chart.
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Old May 30, 19, 7:09 pm
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They simply canít make SWU Y->W. In terms of value, that would be devastating. That has been rumoured countless number of times, and every time it has been proven to be unfounded.

Surely JonNYC can quash it again this time around.
I know most people will be aggravated (I do sympathize) by this change and my opinion is likely unpopular, but it is time AA did this. Everyone knew that as soon as W went in that is where Y would upgrade to eventually. This change helps AA better monetize W. I know many EPs will end up paying the extra money to buy a W ticket now and it will likely clear into J easier now. It is a win for AA and it is a win for people that can afford W (or their corporate policy limits them to W) from getting jumped by an EP in Y with higher spend.

I'll welcome the change too when AA officially adds W (Them adding drinks to MCE was the beginning) on their domestic flights and modifies the upgrade policy like DL has on their domestic upgrades. AA needs these changes (plus obviously de-OASIS-fying, which seems to be in the cards) to catch up with DLs RASM advantage.
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Old May 30, 19, 7:17 pm
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I don't think SWUs being Y->W or W->J is too likely, for starters I would point out that Delta has not done that as of yet so good chance no one at AA has even thought of it. Second, Delta hasn't done that yet.

My guess is more dynamic pricing, lets hope it only applies to AA metal and not partners since that would have the most minimal impact given AA doesn't really release premium awards on their own planes anymore.
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