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Originally Posted by dfw_plt_aa
(Post 16986719)
Absolutely, with this change AAdvantage is way behind United. If I were starting today to select a frequent flyer program and was interested in lifetime status, I would select United since it is much easier to fly 1 million miles for lifetime mid-tier on United versus needing 2 million miles on American. As an additional sweetener for United, 3 million miles gives lifetime top-tier on United, while there is no lifetime top-tier on American.
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Bummer.
I understand the reason, I got to the party just a little too late. (Sitting at 640K lifetime) |
I would tend to think that AA could have set itself off from DL/UA by counting elite bonus miles as an incentive/reward to elite flyers, particularly PLT and EXPs. Also, AA could have included using the higher of miles or points to reward those flyers purchasing higher fare tickets although AA's technology may have found accomodating that feature a difficult task to achieve.
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Originally Posted by AAExPlat
(Post 16986899)
And for some general commentary...the Lifetime program on AA has been way too lax for years and has in my opinion rewarded the wrong kinds of folks. The churners, the serial abusers etc. Those of us who are going on 10 years EXP have really been disproportionately disadvantaged in some ways.
I appreciate the new move to reward those who truly support the backbone of AA's existence....flying on their aircraft. I reckon that of my 2.6MM miles that about 1-1.2MM are BIS. Say what you want, but unlike other airlines, AA looks out for us top tier elites. Whether it's making lifetime status tougher or not handing out lifetime EXP, I appreciate that my business on a year to year basis is appreciated and its benefits protected by AA. |
It's good that the airline lets us know beforehand.
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Originally Posted by jpzeller
(Post 16986858)
Maybe I'm dense, but I don't understand - those rental car/hotel dollars charged will still accrue MILES, nicht wahr? The miles will simply not count toward million-mile status.
Correct? I recently picked up Silver in the Radisson program since I could get over 30,000 of their points from 2 hotel stays and 4 car rentals. The 6 bookings totaled about $600, and had I credited them to AA, I would have only received 900 miles. |
Originally Posted by Gardyloo
(Post 16986443)
Can one assume that existing LT Golds will not receive the bonus miles?
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oh well... no LT PLT for me... :(
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I am at 1.7m program to date. I have 133k SPG points and 300k + Amex points. If I transfer some of these before Dec 1 they'll count for lifetime plat status, correct? I will have Plat next year regardless (even if I don't hit Exp this year) so I wouldn't transfer all 300k miles... but a 200k transfer would mean that BIS flying between now and Dec 2012 would put me at enough for lifetime plat.
Am I insane for giving up hotel/membership reward points to get them to count towards lifetime plat? What other good options are there to get a ton of points fast? Other hotel/point programs? 90 CD at some internet bank? Thanks |
Originally Posted by Hyperacusis
(Post 16986941)
AmericanAirlines: As has been pointed out by a number of posters here, a deep discount Economy flyer would earn the same progress towards lifetime status than a full fare First flyer, when the latter has possibly paid many times the fare paid by the former. When it comes to qualifying for regular elite status (Gold, Platinum or EXP), premium flyers are rewarded through the Elite Qualifying Points system.
I agree (like many others here) that it makes sense to not count bonus miles earned fairly cheaply from the likes of credit cards, etc. However, is it truly a sound business decision to treat premium flyers exactly the same as deep discount flyers when it comes to Lifetime Status? This isn't a concern of most on these forums, given that the vast majority of FTers fly deep discount and try to maximize their elite status at the lowest cost. However, for the few of us that do pay premium fares consistently, it would be helpful if these comments and concerns were passed on to Maya or the relevant decision makers. The Lifetime Program may have been announced but given that it doesn't fully implement until 12/1, there may yet be time to incorporate some (positive from a business standpoint) changes. |
Originally Posted by AAExPlat
(Post 16986860)
You have a few options:
1) Upgrade an existing card to the new card 2) get rid of some of the old cards now and apply soon for the new card Course of action #2 is not a guaranteed success, but #1 should be if any of the recent promos were used by you. I applied for a new card and was turned down. |
Delta did the same a few years ago
As many have said, this has been expected for a while. Delta did the same thing a few years back, and also grandfathered everyone. Bu with their current mileage levels to get an award ticket (140,000 miles to get to Honolulu in December vs. 75,000 on AA or UA), I would still rather fly UA or AA.
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Originally Posted by GadgetFreak
(Post 16986966)
Right. This makes the AA program about 1 million miles behind the UA program. It will be interesting to see how UA changes their program.
In contrast, AA recognizes flights like LAX-LHR on BA, or HKG-AMS on CX. Having AA count international flights on their partners to the MM counter is a big plus over UA. |
1.5 lifetime for me.
I knew this day would come but was hoping it would be a couple more years so I could hit Plat. At least I made Gold. If only they would honor my CitiBusiness Mastercard for another year I could pull it off... |
Originally Posted by howto
(Post 16986978)
It's good that the airline lets us know beforehand.
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