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#1276
Moderator: American AAdvantage
Join Date: May 2000
Location: NorCal - SMF area
Programs: AA LT Plat; HH LT Diamond, Maître-plongeur des Muccis
Posts: 62,948
If you have a ton of AA miles and plan to fly AA heavily via award flights, is it worth pursuing AA Gold? Reading the upgrade thread, it doesn't look like those 500-mile stickers work for award flights. Do MCE seats and Same-Day Standby (with fee waiver) work for award travel? Any other benefits get blocked for award flights?
#1277
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Not here; there!
Programs: AA Lifetime Gold
Posts: 29,588
Concierge Key and Executive Platinum can upgrade awards with 500 mile e-upgrades. Imo, it’s definitely not worth going to the trouble of earning Gold if you’re going to be flying some award flights. If you like some of the Gold benefits, the more useful ones are easily gained with the proper credit card. See What are AA ♦️Gold / GLD Benefits? Are they worth it? (Master thd)
For me, two of the most valuable benefits of my Gold status are:
1) no $75 close-in award-booking fee; and
2) free MCE seats at check-in (and free "Preferred" seats at booking). Both of these are available on award travel; neither is available on Basic Economy fares.
In addition, Gold gets a free checked bag in Economy on all AA routes, not just domestic ones.
Whether these extras are enough to warrant going for AA Gold is something that only the individual traveler can answer.
#1278
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: USA
Programs: AA Gold, Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 310
Concierge Key and Executive Platinum can upgrade awards with 500 mile e-upgrades. Imo, it’s definitely not worth going to the trouble of earning Gold if you’re going to be flying some award flights. If you like some of the Gold benefits, the more useful ones are easily gained with the proper credit card. See What are AA ♦️Gold / GLD Benefits? Are they worth it? (Master thd)
I'll voice a dissenting opinion here.
For me, two of the most valuable benefits of my Gold status are:
1) no $75 close-in award-booking fee; and
2) free MCE seats at check-in (and free "Preferred" seats at booking). Both of these are available on award travel; neither is available on Basic Economy fares.
In addition, Gold gets a free checked bag in Economy on all AA routes, not just domestic ones.
Whether these extras are enough to warrant going for AA Gold is something that only the individual traveler can answer.
For me, two of the most valuable benefits of my Gold status are:
1) no $75 close-in award-booking fee; and
2) free MCE seats at check-in (and free "Preferred" seats at booking). Both of these are available on award travel; neither is available on Basic Economy fares.
In addition, Gold gets a free checked bag in Economy on all AA routes, not just domestic ones.
Whether these extras are enough to warrant going for AA Gold is something that only the individual traveler can answer.
#1279
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: New Zealand (when I'm home!)
Programs: Air NZ Elite
Posts: 1,218
Hi there. I have a flight with Qantas that is leaving from LAX and going to Brisbane. Before I catch that flight, I need to take a flight from Edmonton to LAX. If I book a flight with American Airlines (due to arrive 3 hours prior to my Qantas flight) will AA check my luggage through for me even though they are on separate tickets (but part of the same alliance?)
From what I've been learning recently it's AAs policy but usually in the USA you need to collect your luggage upon arrival. But last time I flew from Edmonton I cleared immigration and bag security in Edmonton prior to my flight to the USA, so was wondering if this might mean I don't have to collect my luggage? If I can stay in security and not have to clear it in LAX again that would be great. Thanks!
From what I've been learning recently it's AAs policy but usually in the USA you need to collect your luggage upon arrival. But last time I flew from Edmonton I cleared immigration and bag security in Edmonton prior to my flight to the USA, so was wondering if this might mean I don't have to collect my luggage? If I can stay in security and not have to clear it in LAX again that would be great. Thanks!
#1280
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: NYC
Programs: AA EP, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 32
If all your flights are booked under the LATAM codes, then you'll earn based on the LATAM earning chart.
https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/...n-airlines.jsp
https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/...n-airlines.jsp
#1281
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: RDU <|> MMX
Programs: AA EXP 2MM, SK EBS
Posts: 12,483
Hi there. I have a flight with Qantas that is leaving from LAX and going to Brisbane. Before I catch that flight, I need to take a flight from Edmonton to LAX. If I book a flight with American Airlines (due to arrive 3 hours prior to my Qantas flight) will AA check my luggage through for me even though they are on separate tickets (but part of the same alliance?)
From what I've been learning recently it's AAs policy but usually in the USA you need to collect your luggage upon arrival. But last time I flew from Edmonton I cleared immigration and bag security in Edmonton prior to my flight to the USA, so was wondering if this might mean I don't have to collect my luggage? If I can stay in security and not have to clear it in LAX again that would be great. Thanks!
From what I've been learning recently it's AAs policy but usually in the USA you need to collect your luggage upon arrival. But last time I flew from Edmonton I cleared immigration and bag security in Edmonton prior to my flight to the USA, so was wondering if this might mean I don't have to collect my luggage? If I can stay in security and not have to clear it in LAX again that would be great. Thanks!
#1282
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: New Zealand (when I'm home!)
Programs: Air NZ Elite
Posts: 1,218
Thank you. I will book with Air Canada then to give myself a bigger (and safer) layover!
#1283
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 124
Which is better for me? AAdvantage or SkyMiles?
After a hiatus of a couple years, I've started a new job and I'm flying again. I haven't traveled since 2015, and the elite status programs have changed tremendously.
Here are the details:
If you were in my shoes, what would you do? Which program is better for me? I'm seriously considering SkyMiles and AAdvantage, but I'm not necessarily against United or Southwest.
Thanks in advance for any advice.
Here are the details:
- I now travel about once or twice a month, but I just started and probably won't attain elite status anywhere before the end of the year.
- I will probably travel about twice as often for a few months, early in the year.
- For cards, the two airline cards I have are SkyMiles Gold and AAdvantage Platinum Select.
- My card spend is probably around $25,000 to $30,000 per year.
- Companion certificates aren't terribly important for me since I have a special needs child and my wife and I can't really travel together.
- I don't take many trips for pleasure, so miles are most useful for other purposes.
- I travel only inside the continental U.S.
- My employer won't pay for upgraded fares.
- I can fly United, Delta, Southwest, or American out of my small, national airport (that's more like a regional airport).
- American from here is usually DFW, which I hate because it's always. frigging. hot.
- Delta from here is usually Atlanta, which I generally like but the weather delays wear on me.
- I fly to DC frequently, and American has a direct flight. ^
- The most important factors for me are timeliness (getting to meetings on time and home to my kids) and;
- Comfort is a factor. I especially don't do "hot and trapped," so I will pay out of my own pocket to not sit in the middle on a longer flight - especially if it's hot.
If you were in my shoes, what would you do? Which program is better for me? I'm seriously considering SkyMiles and AAdvantage, but I'm not necessarily against United or Southwest.
Thanks in advance for any advice.
#1284
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: BKK
Posts: 6,741
After a hiatus of a couple years, I've started a new job and I'm flying again. I haven't traveled since 2015, and the elite status programs have changed tremendously.
Here are the details:
If you were in my shoes, what would you do? Which program is better for me? I'm seriously considering SkyMiles and AAdvantage, but I'm not necessarily against United or Southwest.
Thanks in advance for any advice.
Here are the details:
- I now travel about once or twice a month, but I just started and probably won't attain elite status anywhere before the end of the year.
- I will probably travel about twice as often for a few months, early in the year.
- For cards, the two airline cards I have are SkyMiles Gold and AAdvantage Platinum Select.
- My card spend is probably around $25,000 to $30,000 per year.
- Companion certificates aren't terribly important for me since I have a special needs child and my wife and I can't really travel together.
- I don't take many trips for pleasure, so miles are most useful for other purposes.
- I travel only inside the continental U.S.
- My employer won't pay for upgraded fares.
- I can fly United, Delta, Southwest, or American out of my small, national airport (that's more like a regional airport).
- American from here is usually DFW, which I hate because it's always. frigging. hot.
- Delta from here is usually Atlanta, which I generally like but the weather delays wear on me.
- I fly to DC frequently, and American has a direct flight. ^
- The most important factors for me are timeliness (getting to meetings on time and home to my kids) and;
- Comfort is a factor. I especially don't do "hot and trapped," so I will pay out of my own pocket to not sit in the middle on a longer flight - especially if it's hot.
If you were in my shoes, what would you do? Which program is better for me? I'm seriously considering SkyMiles and AAdvantage, but I'm not necessarily against United or Southwest.
Thanks in advance for any advice.
If one airline cannot meet most of your needs perfectly, another option would be to get the credit cards for all of the big three, DL Reserve, AA Executive, UA MP Club card; and then just choose whatever airline meets your needs on a case by case basis.
It sounds like international awards and upgrades are basically irrelevant, so your main consideration should be the quality of day to day domestic travel and any possible upgrades you can achieve with status.
#1285
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 124
Which airline meets your travel and schedule needs better? Can you hit top tier status on any of the big three with your travel patterns?
If one airline cannot meet most of your needs perfectly, another option would be to get the credit cards for all of the big three, DL Reserve, AA Executive, UA MP Club card; and then just choose whatever airline meets your needs on a case by case basis.
It sounds like international awards and upgrades are basically irrelevant, so your main consideration should be the quality of day to day domestic travel and any possible upgrades you can achieve with status.
I could probably guarantee myself a good seat on Southwest by making their A-List at some point next year, but in the interim I will have some awful seats and I don't really get on Delta just because I plan ahead of time for the most part. Southwest just doesn't have as many flight options. And I don't know much about American. I've flown American a handful of times for convenience but I've never been a serious customer. Giving it some thought now.
#1286
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: BKK
Posts: 6,741
That's sort of what I'm thinking. The two programs I know a bit about are SkyMiles and AAdvantage. On each of those I can probably hit the first level easily. The second level will be tough and the third impossible. On Delta I know I won't get many upgrades just being Silver. SkyMiles isn't what it used to be. On the other hand, their standard coach experience is pretty good compared to many others. Do you get upgrades fairly early on American or is that out of the question?
I could probably guarantee myself a good seat on Southwest by making their A-List at some point next year, but in the interim I will have some awful seats and I don't really get on Delta just because I plan ahead of time for the most part. Southwest just doesn't have as many flight options. And I don't know much about American. I've flown American a handful of times for convenience but I've never been a serious customer. Giving it some thought now.
I could probably guarantee myself a good seat on Southwest by making their A-List at some point next year, but in the interim I will have some awful seats and I don't really get on Delta just because I plan ahead of time for the most part. Southwest just doesn't have as many flight options. And I don't know much about American. I've flown American a handful of times for convenience but I've never been a serious customer. Giving it some thought now.
The mileage and hotel loyalty schemes can be a dangerous game that causes people to make irrational decisions. If you needed international F awards, or could score major upgrades domestically and internationally, then it might be worth it. But in your case you honestly will not likely get much. You’ll have important benefits from the credit cards anyway, and can pay for better seats when necessary. If you hit silver or mid tier, you might occasionally get upgraded as well. So, I would just diversify and pick the best flights regardless of carrier.
#1287
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 124
This is exactly the kind of advice I needed. I knew I didn't fly enough to really make it worth chasing status, and I honestly have a pretty good experience on both airlines just by being smart about knowing when to pay extra (LAX to ATL at 10:59p is a bad one for the middle seat) and when to accept an hour and a half of discomfort. Thanks so much for responding.
One final question: would I be better with a regular AMEX platinum (corporate branded) card with my current DL Gold in place of AA Executive Advantage + DL Reserve? I seem to recall that it gave me access to a lot of clubs. Or is Executive Advantage a must if you're flying American?
One final question: would I be better with a regular AMEX platinum (corporate branded) card with my current DL Gold in place of AA Executive Advantage + DL Reserve? I seem to recall that it gave me access to a lot of clubs. Or is Executive Advantage a must if you're flying American?
#1288
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: BKK
Posts: 6,741
This is exactly the kind of advice I needed. I knew I didn't fly enough to really make it worth chasing status, and I honestly have a pretty good experience on both airlines just by being smart about knowing when to pay extra (LAX to ATL at 10:59p is a bad one for the middle seat) and when to accept an hour and a half of discomfort. Thanks so much for responding.
One final question: would I be better with a regular AMEX platinum (corporate branded) card with my current DL Gold in place of AA Executive Advantage + DL Reserve? I seem to recall that it gave me access to a lot of clubs. Or is Executive Advantage a must if you're flying American?
One final question: would I be better with a regular AMEX platinum (corporate branded) card with my current DL Gold in place of AA Executive Advantage + DL Reserve? I seem to recall that it gave me access to a lot of clubs. Or is Executive Advantage a must if you're flying American?
Yes, always remember that while as the passenger/guest airline and hotel status is designed to make you feel special, in reality from the airline or hotel chain’s perspective you are just a number and they are trying to get you to behave irrationally. e.g. take a less convenient or more expensive ticket in order to fly their airline over another, take extra mileage runs, etc... Try to be objective and make decisions in your own best interest. Sometimes going for status or a promotion does make sense. However, most of the time for people who cannot hit top tier and for whom one airline does not fit all travel needs, it really is much more of a luxury to just have complete freedom to take whichever airline works best for a particular trip.
#1289
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 155
This answer has to be on the Flame Free thread, but no long finding it...but my question is whether or not I can I lock in an upgrade to business class from economy on an award ticket shortly after booking a ticket. It's an international flight to LHR. Would prefer to use miles to upgrade, but maybe cash. If not possible to business, what about Main Cabin Extra? I am not a regular AA flyer and don't have status. Your help would be greatly appreciated.
#1290
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: PHL
Programs: AA EXP, HH Diamond, Owner of 2,000 TWA shares
Posts: 812
After a hiatus of a couple years, I've started a new job and I'm flying again. I haven't traveled since 2015, and the elite status programs have changed tremendously.
Here are the details:
If you were in my shoes, what would you do? Which program is better for me? I'm seriously considering SkyMiles and AAdvantage, but I'm not necessarily against United or Southwest.
Thanks in advance for any advice.
Here are the details:
- I now travel about once or twice a month, but I just started and probably won't attain elite status anywhere before the end of the year.
- I will probably travel about twice as often for a few months, early in the year.
- For cards, the two airline cards I have are SkyMiles Gold and AAdvantage Platinum Select.
- My card spend is probably around $25,000 to $30,000 per year.
- Companion certificates aren't terribly important for me since I have a special needs child and my wife and I can't really travel together.
- I don't take many trips for pleasure, so miles are most useful for other purposes.
- I travel only inside the continental U.S.
- My employer won't pay for upgraded fares.
- I can fly United, Delta, Southwest, or American out of my small, national airport (that's more like a regional airport).
- American from here is usually DFW, which I hate because it's always. frigging. hot.
- Delta from here is usually Atlanta, which I generally like but the weather delays wear on me.
- I fly to DC frequently, and American has a direct flight. ^
- The most important factors for me are timeliness (getting to meetings on time and home to my kids) and;
- Comfort is a factor. I especially don't do "hot and trapped," so I will pay out of my own pocket to not sit in the middle on a longer flight - especially if it's hot.
If you were in my shoes, what would you do? Which program is better for me? I'm seriously considering SkyMiles and AAdvantage, but I'm not necessarily against United or Southwest.
Thanks in advance for any advice.