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Chances of Upgrade Request Clearing
NOTE: Be aware of recent (20 May 2017) upgrade priority changes."New Upgrade Priority as of 20 May 2017
(Upgrades were prioritized by elite status and then time of request until 20 May 2017)
- Elite status
- Concierge Key
- Executive Platinum
- Platinum Pro
- Platinum
- Gold
- Platinum
- Platinum Pro
- Executive Platinum
- Upgrade type
- Miles and copay award upgrades and systemwide upgrades (SWU)
- 500 mile upgrades on purchased tickets
- 500 mile upgrades on upgrade eligible awards)
- 500 mile upgrades on purchased tickets
- Elite qualifying dollars in the past 12 months
- Booking class
- Time of request"
- Booking class
- Miles and copay award upgrades and systemwide upgrades (SWU)
- Concierge Key
See Upgrade Priority Changes to Status, Rolling 365 Day EQD Spend May 20 2017
Link to Gary Leff, View From the Wing 16 May 2017
Updated 17 Dec 2017 by aztimm
Chances of Upgrade Clearing and Availability (2018 master thread)
#346
Join Date: May 2011
Location: DFW
Programs: AA EXP, LT Gold
Posts: 3,148
First time upgraded on an award ticket today. DFW-FAR tomorrow with my son, both of us just cleared (T27).
Seems AA was being a bit hopeful, though, as we were the only two who were upgraded (judging by the seat map before and after our UGs processed).
If the policy with award upgrades is to upgrade every elite requesting an UG before then upgrading those with award tickets requesting upgrades, I guess there were no elites requesting upgrades on this flight.
Seems AA was being a bit hopeful, though, as we were the only two who were upgraded (judging by the seat map before and after our UGs processed).
If the policy with award upgrades is to upgrade every elite requesting an UG before then upgrading those with award tickets requesting upgrades, I guess there were no elites requesting upgrades on this flight.
#347
Join Date: May 2007
Programs: UA 1K, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 5,453
The policy is that EXPs on award tickets clear behind all other EXPs looking to upgrade, but ahead of all other elites (PRO, PLT, GLD).
#348
Join Date: May 2011
Location: DFW
Programs: AA EXP, LT Gold
Posts: 3,148
Award ticket upgrade priority
- Upgrades on award tickets will be prioritized after all other 500-mile upgrade requests on purchased tickets within each elite level
- Companions will have the same priority as the sponsor member
EDIT: Okay re-reading it, I can see how it might actually mean "we will do this process within each elite level" instead of all elite levels as a whole, then go to upgrading on award tickets.
Clear as mud.
#349
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: RDU <|> MMX
Programs: AA EXP 2MM, SK EBS
Posts: 12,481
#350
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: SFO
Programs: AA EXP, SPG / Marriott GLD, HHonors GLD
Posts: 520
SFO-JFK-CLT for Thurs night redeye/Fri morning flight cleared Y-J 100 hours in advance. Flat bed for the redeye not too shabby.
#351
Join Date: May 2007
Programs: UA 1K, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 5,453
Congrats! Keep in mind though that the Wednesday holiday this week throws business travel trends off quite a bit. I definitely would not have expected this result any other Thursday of the year...
#352
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: DCA
Programs: American AAdvantage EXP, World of Hyatt Explorist, Marriott Rewards Titanium, MGM Rewards Gold
Posts: 428
Tricky question that I am hoping someone can answer. How often does AA "sweep" for processing 500 mile upgrades?
While within my 72 hour upgrade window as a Platinum Pro, I saw there were 17 available J seats DFW-MIA on July 5th. I had used a BXP1 on this flight, which didn't seem necessary. Expertflyer is still showing C7 on the flight, and the seat map is virtually empty. I called Meeting Services to have them unapply the BXP1, as I figure I should clear easily and can save it for another time. It has been over 12 hours since they processed me back into Economy, but I haven't cleared yet. I am showing as upgrade requested, but I would have figured that I would have cleared within an hour or so. I asked if my ticket needed to be re-issued, but 2 different agents said no. I feat that the way the ticket was downgraded that the system may skip over me for the upgrade.
Any idea on how I can ensure this isn't the case and the upgrade processes? There is no reason that I can see that would prevent me from getting the upgrade prior to the airport list except for the fact that I was upgraded using a BXP1 and then asked for it to be unapplied.
Thanks for your insight!
While within my 72 hour upgrade window as a Platinum Pro, I saw there were 17 available J seats DFW-MIA on July 5th. I had used a BXP1 on this flight, which didn't seem necessary. Expertflyer is still showing C7 on the flight, and the seat map is virtually empty. I called Meeting Services to have them unapply the BXP1, as I figure I should clear easily and can save it for another time. It has been over 12 hours since they processed me back into Economy, but I haven't cleared yet. I am showing as upgrade requested, but I would have figured that I would have cleared within an hour or so. I asked if my ticket needed to be re-issued, but 2 different agents said no. I feat that the way the ticket was downgraded that the system may skip over me for the upgrade.
Any idea on how I can ensure this isn't the case and the upgrade processes? There is no reason that I can see that would prevent me from getting the upgrade prior to the airport list except for the fact that I was upgraded using a BXP1 and then asked for it to be unapplied.
Thanks for your insight!
#353
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Gatwick, UK
Programs: UA *G, BA Silver
Posts: 1,673
Complementary upgrades require X, not C (at least I think it is X, but it definitely is different than C). Sometimes C becomes available first and sometimes X does. Presumably for your flight C is available and X is not.
Last week I was waiting for C on the mid-morning SFO-JFK (miles on a Y ticket) but X became available first and I got a free upgrade even though I was willing to pay miles. In fact, the C upgrade cleared as well about 30 minutes later and at one point I had three entries in my itinerary for the same flight – I called and they cleared it all up and I flew on a X upgrade.
Last week I was waiting for C on the mid-morning SFO-JFK (miles on a Y ticket) but X became available first and I got a free upgrade even though I was willing to pay miles. In fact, the C upgrade cleared as well about 30 minutes later and at one point I had three entries in my itinerary for the same flight – I called and they cleared it all up and I flew on a X upgrade.
#354
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: DCA
Programs: American AAdvantage EXP, World of Hyatt Explorist, Marriott Rewards Titanium, MGM Rewards Gold
Posts: 428
Complementary upgrades require X, not C (at least I think it is X, but it definitely is different than C). Sometimes C becomes available first and sometimes X does. Presumably for your flight C is available and X is not.
Last week I was waiting for C on the mid-morning SFO-JFK (miles on a Y ticket) but X became available first and I got a free upgrade even though I was willing to pay miles. In fact, the C upgrade cleared as well about 30 minutes later and at one point I had three entries in my itinerary for the same flight – I called and they cleared it all up and I flew on a X upgrade.
Last week I was waiting for C on the mid-morning SFO-JFK (miles on a Y ticket) but X became available first and I got a free upgrade even though I was willing to pay miles. In fact, the C upgrade cleared as well about 30 minutes later and at one point I had three entries in my itinerary for the same flight – I called and they cleared it all up and I flew on a X upgrade.
#355
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Gatwick, UK
Programs: UA *G, BA Silver
Posts: 1,673
So I was confirmed in C with a BXP1. I told them to unapply it since I should be able to clear with the 500 mile upgrades. They got the help desk to revert it. I am now in Economy G class and on the upgrade list. I have been this way for 16 hours and the upgrade hasn't cleared within the window yet. I am not sure why it wouldn't have cleared yet. I think it may be stuck because of the downgrade. Is this possible and how can I ensure that this isn't the case?
The key point is that there are two upgrade buckets (C and X) and not one. Most often C will clear first and X closer to departure. At the gate, a request for C should take priority over a request for X (within your status level).
Only you can decide if the BXP1 is worth using for a short-ish flight where you might get a complementary upgrade).
#356
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: ATL
Programs: DL - DM, Charter KM; Marriott Ambassador
Posts: 1,355
This process is very odd to me. Upcoming Thursday flight with half of F taken I got upgraded. The connection with 0 seats taken in F I’m still waiting on... wish we had a little more clarity on what determines when seats are released.
Last edited by MichaelKade; Jul 4, 2018 at 3:01 am
#357
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: DTW / SJC
Programs: AA EXP, DL DM, Marriott Titanium, Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 764
Was upgraded SFO-MIA-DTW at T-100, which was surprising as SFO-MIA was J2 at the time.
Both upgrades were processed at the same time, so actually T-107 for MIA-DTW; for some reason, I always thought they started clearing them 100 hours prior to each individual flight.
Both upgrades were processed at the same time, so actually T-107 for MIA-DTW; for some reason, I always thought they started clearing them 100 hours prior to each individual flight.
#358
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: DFW
Posts: 270
Not sure if this belongs here but will ask any way.
Got a SWU applied to MIA-LHR for 7-14. Checked seats yesterday and website has me listed as original seat and in J. I go to "Choose seats" and it kicks me back to my original PE seat.
Checked this yesterday and thought, Ok, it is in the process of re-ticketing. Checked again this morning and still the same.
Is it somehow "stuck"? I guess I will give it 24 hrs since I checked yesterday and then call in if no change. Sure want to be able pick a seat as they may be going fast.
Got a SWU applied to MIA-LHR for 7-14. Checked seats yesterday and website has me listed as original seat and in J. I go to "Choose seats" and it kicks me back to my original PE seat.
Checked this yesterday and thought, Ok, it is in the process of re-ticketing. Checked again this morning and still the same.
Is it somehow "stuck"? I guess I will give it 24 hrs since I checked yesterday and then call in if no change. Sure want to be able pick a seat as they may be going fast.
#359
Join Date: May 2007
Programs: UA 1K, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 5,453
Not sure if this belongs here but will ask any way.
Got a SWU applied to MIA-LHR for 7-14. Checked seats yesterday and website has me listed as original seat and in J. I go to "Choose seats" and it kicks me back to my original PE seat.
Checked this yesterday and thought, Ok, it is in the process of re-ticketing. Checked again this morning and still the same.
Is it somehow "stuck"? I guess I will give it 24 hrs since I checked yesterday and then call in if no change. Sure want to be able pick a seat as they may be going fast.
Got a SWU applied to MIA-LHR for 7-14. Checked seats yesterday and website has me listed as original seat and in J. I go to "Choose seats" and it kicks me back to my original PE seat.
Checked this yesterday and thought, Ok, it is in the process of re-ticketing. Checked again this morning and still the same.
Is it somehow "stuck"? I guess I will give it 24 hrs since I checked yesterday and then call in if no change. Sure want to be able pick a seat as they may be going fast.
#360
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: DFW
Posts: 270
Now here is hoping the return clears soon.