ARCHIVE: AA Awards on Cathay Pacific (2016)
Mar 21, 2016, 6:46 am
#1246
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The dates were not too far out, and the seat was for F.
Mar 21, 2016, 6:56 am
#1247
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So I rolled the dice and spent my AA miles on a 3/28 first class flight to Manila that I plan to cancel and hope I can rebook to another date at the old rates, per the method outlined some pages back. My question is: does it matter whether I call to cancel before or after devaluation?
I got lucky and legged in ord-hkg-rgn on Feb 10, can't believe it opened up today.
I always had another set in business class so I'm going to switch my return I have to fit in with my Feb 10 outbound, return my other one way business class and hope I can use my first class back home if something opens up on jl or CX first class.
Mar 21, 2016, 7:11 am
#1248
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: PVG
Programs: BA Gold, TK E+, ex AA EXP
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Lot of phantom availability lately on BA for CX
Mar 21, 2016, 7:41 am
#1249
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I believe this is correct. I have not heard of a separate agreement for J/F award bookings between QF and CX
Mar 21, 2016, 7:53 am
#1250
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: LAX
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Maybe, but I think two things are still more likely: either the space you saw on ba.com was snapped up in the couple of minutes it took to call AA, or you reached an agent who didn't search properly. Today I saw 2 F seats on ba.com for HKG-LAX 3/27, called, and was told no go. Got the usual "different carriers have different availability" line that we know not to be true (and in fact to be a red flag that you're not talking to the best agent). I checked ba.com again to see if the seats had been taken, and saw that they apparently hadn't. Called AA back again and a second agent had no problem seeing the availability. Always HUCA.
Mar 21, 2016, 7:54 am
#1251
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Maybe, but I think two things are still more likely: either the space you saw on ba.com was snapped up in the couple of minutes it took to call AA, or you reached an agent who didn't search properly. Today I saw 2 F seats on ba.com for HKG-LAX 3/27, called, and was told no go. Got the usual "different carriers have different availability" line that we know not to be true (and in fact to be a red flag that you're not talking to the best agent). I checked ba.com again to see if the seats had been taken, and saw that they apparently hadn't. Called AA back again and a second agent had no problem seeing the availability. Always HUCA.
Mar 21, 2016, 8:20 am
#1252
Join Date: Jan 2006
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I used awardnexus.com to search availability. Saw space in February in CX F using both the QF and JL/CX search options. The BA option showed nothing. When I called to book the aagent said she didn't see the flights I had as being available but she did find J class on the evening flight that goes via YVR which had no appeared in any of my searches. So I get to BKK a day later than planned. Maybe I should have tried HUCA? I also asked her if I could get an F seat at the old rates if one opened up on these flights and she seemed to think I would be charged at the new rates.
Mar 21, 2016, 8:36 am
#1253
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I used awardnexus.com to search availability. Saw space in February in CX F using both the QF and JL/CX search options. The BA option showed nothing. When I called to book the aagent said she didn't see the flights I had as being available but she did find J class on the evening flight that goes via YVR which had no appeared in any of my searches. So I get to BKK a day later than planned. Maybe I should have tried HUCA? I also asked her if I could get an F seat at the old rates if one opened up on these flights and she seemed to think I would be charged at the new rates.
Mar 21, 2016, 8:40 am
#1254
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Ok, I figured out the problem, the stupid QF website shows the seats as F if the first leg is AA domestic F, with a notation that the two long haul CX legs are in economy. That's why the AA agents couldn't see it. Geez...
Last edited by nk15; Mar 21, 2016 at 8:48 am
Mar 21, 2016, 9:12 am
#1255
Join Date: Jul 2009
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Yeah, the QF site is a pain to get used to. I pulls in a lot of inventory from airlines like Emirates that are QF partners, but not AA partners or OW members. No way to restrict searches to nonstop flights to go segment by segment either.
Mar 21, 2016, 9:57 am
#1256
Join Date: Dec 2013
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I have ATL-ORD-PEK-HKG-REP on hold. 1st 2 segs are AA last 2 CX.
Can I change to ATL-ORD-HKG-REP with the ORD-HKG on CX?
Does the long haul segment have to remain the same or can I switch as long as CX was part of original itin?
Can I change to ATL-ORD-HKG-REP with the ORD-HKG on CX?
Does the long haul segment have to remain the same or can I switch as long as CX was part of original itin?
Mar 21, 2016, 10:06 am
#1257
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 49
It is gone already 
, If anyone release any award let me know from HKG-USA
, If anyone release any award let me know from HKG-USAI just released an F award on the following flights
1/1 CX 897 LAX-HKG
1/17 CX 898 HKG-LAX
If anyone is releasing anything (before or after devaluation) in the last two weeks of December, a PM to me would be most appreciated.
ETA - according to BA.com, they went back into inventory right away
1/1 CX 897 LAX-HKG
1/17 CX 898 HKG-LAX
If anyone is releasing anything (before or after devaluation) in the last two weeks of December, a PM to me would be most appreciated.
ETA - according to BA.com, they went back into inventory right away
Mar 21, 2016, 10:23 am
#1258
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You cannot search with the CX option and expect to book with AA miles. Doing so is like using CX's website searching their own award inventory. You have to use the BA option to get valid results that are bookable with AA. I'm not sure why the QF option showed you anything though, as BA and QF should both see partner award space that AA can. BA is the safer bet.
Mar 21, 2016, 10:31 am
#1259
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Maybe, but I think two things are still more likely: either the space you saw on ba.com was snapped up in the couple of minutes it took to call AA, or you reached an agent who didn't search properly. Today I saw 2 F seats on ba.com for HKG-LAX 3/27, called, and was told no go. Got the usual "different carriers have different availability" line that we know not to be true (and in fact to be a red flag that you're not talking to the best agent). I checked ba.com again to see if the seats had been taken, and saw that they apparently hadn't. Called AA back again and a second agent had no problem seeing the availability. Always HUCA.
Then checking on Award Nexus with BA, JL and QF, only QF show the seat available,
Crosschecking this with EF, no seat has been pre-assigned and it shows F4-A2, then Marco Polo show 2 seats available as well...
I HUCA several time, no luck...
Mar 21, 2016, 10:31 am
#1260
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Thanks all for the great info!
I was able to snag a C r/t LAX-HKG some 330 days out.
Moving that eventually in for desired dates in fall, I was wondering, if there is a pattern of how far out C-seats become available.
Probably a "refresher" question for this thread, but search function did not turn up answer.
I was able to snag a C r/t LAX-HKG some 330 days out.
Moving that eventually in for desired dates in fall, I was wondering, if there is a pattern of how far out C-seats become available.
Probably a "refresher" question for this thread, but search function did not turn up answer.