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Old Dec 30, 2016 | 10:15 am
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Originally Posted by EJS464
My parents who live in Los Angeles booked business class award tickets to EZE with the return EZE - JFK and now find themselves needing to purchase a separate ticket from JFK to LAX. I have looked at changing the award tickets so that they include a return all the way to LAX but the saver award to any US gateway is no longer available around their planned travel dates and they do not have enough miles to make the change to a standard award ticket.

They do not have GE (and are not planning on getting it) or any status with AA and they will be checking bags. I have one single personal experience on NZ who connected two separate reservations at check in (ADL-AKL to AKL-LAX) so that the bags were checked through to the final destination with boarding passes issued for all flights. Although I am hopeful that AA might be able to do that during the check-in at EZE, I am not counting on that so worst case scenario is immigration, get bags, customs, check in for JFK - LAX, security, to the gate.

EZE-JFK arrives at 7:33 AM and I can find JFK-LAX options at 10:00 AM or noon. The almost 2h 30m connection to the 10:00 AM flight is reasonably above the 1h 45m MCT but I have no sense of JFK immigration, customs, and security lines since I have never traveled through JFK that way. Looking for some feedback from regular JFK travelers as to the relative risk of booking the 10:00 AM flight in this scenario versus having a planned 4h 30m connection by booking the noon flight. Traveling in March and arriving JFK on a Thursday morning if that has any relevance to an answer.

Thanks in advance for any insight.
I am not a JFK regular, but I would go for the 4h 30m
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Old Dec 30, 2016 | 11:27 am
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Originally Posted by EJS464
My parents who live in Los Angeles booked business class award tickets to EZE with the return EZE - JFK and now find themselves needing to purchase a separate ticket from JFK to LAX. I have looked at changing the award tickets so that they include a return all the way to LAX but the saver award to any US gateway is no longer available around their planned travel dates and they do not have enough miles to make the change to a standard award ticket.

They do not have GE (and are not planning on getting it) or any status with AA and they will be checking bags. I have one single personal experience on NZ who connected two separate reservations at check in (ADL-AKL to AKL-LAX) so that the bags were checked through to the final destination with boarding passes issued for all flights. Although I am hopeful that AA might be able to do that during the check-in at EZE, I am not counting on that so worst case scenario is immigration, get bags, customs, check in for JFK - LAX, security, to the gate.

EZE-JFK arrives at 7:33 AM and I can find JFK-LAX options at 10:00 AM or noon. The almost 2h 30m connection to the 10:00 AM flight is reasonably above the 1h 45m MCT but I have no sense of JFK immigration, customs, and security lines since I have never traveled through JFK that way. Looking for some feedback from regular JFK travelers as to the relative risk of booking the 10:00 AM flight in this scenario versus having a planned 4h 30m connection by booking the noon flight. Traveling in March and arriving JFK on a Thursday morning if that has any relevance to an answer.

Thanks in advance for any insight.
That connection on separate tickets is just slightly more complex than such a connection on a single ticket, with the addition of obtaining a new bag tag at JFK transfer desk (rather than just putting it onto the belt with your original tag).

The line for immigration ought to be rather short at that time, but the line for security is usually rather long at that time. If running late, the line minders will usually permit line jumping though. I would take the 10 am, considering the likelihood that AA would rebook in case of delay from EZE on their part.
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Old Dec 30, 2016 | 11:40 am
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Originally Posted by EJS464
My parents who live in Los Angeles booked business class award tickets to EZE with the return EZE - JFK and now find themselves needing to purchase a separate ticket from JFK to LAX. I have looked at changing the award tickets so that they include a return all the way to LAX but the saver award to any US gateway is no longer available around their planned travel dates and they do not have enough miles to make the change to a standard award ticket.

They do not have GE (and are not planning on getting it) or any status with AA and they will be checking bags. I have one single personal experience on NZ who connected two separate reservations at check in (ADL-AKL to AKL-LAX) so that the bags were checked through to the final destination with boarding passes issued for all flights. Although I am hopeful that AA might be able to do that during the check-in at EZE, I am not counting on that so worst case scenario is immigration, get bags, customs, check in for JFK - LAX, security, to the gate.

EZE-JFK arrives at 7:33 AM and I can find JFK-LAX options at 10:00 AM or noon. The almost 2h 30m connection to the 10:00 AM flight is reasonably above the 1h 45m MCT but I have no sense of JFK immigration, customs, and security lines since I have never traveled through JFK that way. Looking for some feedback from regular JFK travelers as to the relative risk of booking the 10:00 AM flight in this scenario versus having a planned 4h 30m connection by booking the noon flight. Traveling in March and arriving JFK on a Thursday morning if that has any relevance to an answer.

Thanks in advance for any insight.
When I fly in from South America its always on 950 from GRU, and its the first one in. Immigration isn't bad at that time for US citizens (I'm assuming they are) as the 733am is the fourth South American arrival behind the AA GIG and TAM GRU arrivals I believe. It's too early for the Euro flights, and I think the Qatar flight arrives around the same time. However, since your folks aren't buried in Y, I think the ability to make a 10am to LAX with rechecking and passing security again is do-able.
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Old Dec 30, 2016 | 11:45 am
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Separate tickets through JFK

On a Sunday in Feb, arriving into JFK on Caribbean Airlines scheduled at 1:20 PM. Does it make sense for me to book a SEPARATE domestic ticket on AA dep JFK 3:40 PM? That will give me 2:20 to make the change. Haven't done border entry into JFK for a while so don't know how long it might take. It will be easy to have checked in online for the AA flight so will have BP and go straight to gate. I believe I arrive into T4 and the AA flight departs from T8.
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Old Dec 30, 2016 | 12:34 pm
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It only makes sense if you are happy to be meeting the cost of change fees and fare difference in the case where you miss the AA flight

2 hrs 20 is lower than I would be happy to gamble on , when using separate tickets
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Old Dec 30, 2016 | 12:45 pm
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agree with Dave Noble, JFK ?? probably no...
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Old Dec 30, 2016 | 1:18 pm
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Originally Posted by gq_dq
On a Sunday in Feb, arriving into JFK on Caribbean Airlines scheduled at 1:20 PM. Does it make sense for me to book a SEPARATE domestic ticket on AA dep JFK 3:40 PM? That will give me 2:20 to make the change. Haven't done border entry into JFK for a while so don't know how long it might take. It will be easy to have checked in online for the AA flight so will have BP and go straight to gate. I believe I arrive into T4 and the AA flight departs from T8.
When are AA's later departure(s) from JFK to your final destination?
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Old Dec 30, 2016 | 2:24 pm
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Only that one from JFK that day to CVG.

I have ticketed the LGA-CVG at 8:10 PM using BA Avios because there are only a 2:24 PM from LGA to CVG and a 3:10 PM to DAY both of which I will obviously not make.

I suppose I could book the JFK-CVG and cancel the 8:10 PM I am booked on.
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Old Jan 1, 2017 | 5:14 pm
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Originally Posted by gq_dq
Only that one from JFK that day to CVG.

I have ticketed the LGA-CVG at 8:10 PM using BA Avios because there are only a 2:24 PM from LGA to CVG and a 3:10 PM to DAY both of which I will obviously not make.

I suppose I could book the JFK-CVG and cancel the 8:10 PM I am booked on.
or you could keep the LGACVG as a backup in case you miss the 3.30 of JFK. 2.5 hours seems a bit tight to me, but I'd feel better about it with the LGA backup.

​​​​​​Obviously that safety net would cost 7.5k avios but depending on your balance that may be worth it.
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Old Jan 2, 2017 | 3:43 pm
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Originally Posted by TravellingSalesman
​​​​​​Obviously that safety net would cost 7.5k avios but depending on your balance that may be worth it.
7,500 Avios is not a big issue. But just as an aside since this is the completely wrong forum for this, if I actually make it on the JFK flight, what's the cancellation policy for BA Avios anyway? Anytime before flight departure? That way I might just get back my 7,500 for the LGA flight. If it's like Delta which is 48 hours before, then I'll just forget the 7.5k.
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Old Jan 3, 2017 | 8:31 pm
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Clt-jfk (aa) jfk-doh (qr)

Flying tomorrow on separate ITN...

CLT-JFK (AA) - booked via AA
JFK-DOH (QR) - booked via AY, separate ITN.

We are checked in/pre-check to JFK. 5-hour layover in JFK. Plan to hang at the new FC lounge.

"Checked in" to DOH, but do not have BPs. Printout says to go to check-in counters no later than 2 hours before scheduled departure. We have no plans to exit security just to pick up BPs.

Can AA at FCL do check-in for QR? Anyone have experience here?

(Did a search in this thread and did not find an answer.)
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Old Jan 4, 2017 | 10:57 am
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Originally Posted by gq_dq
7,500 Avios is not a big issue. But just as an aside since this is the completely wrong forum for this, if I actually make it on the JFK flight, what's the cancellation policy for BA Avios anyway? Anytime before flight departure? That way I might just get back my 7,500 for the LGA flight. If it's like Delta which is 48 hours before, then I'll just forget the 7.5k.
cancellable until 24 hours before departure, then completely inflexible.

So if you're going to use it as a backup you won't be able to get the avios back.
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Old Jan 4, 2017 | 11:33 am
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Originally Posted by Global321
Flying tomorrow on separate ITN...

CLT-JFK (AA) - booked via AA
JFK-DOH (QR) - booked via AY, separate ITN.

We are checked in/pre-check to JFK. 5-hour layover in JFK. Plan to hang at the new FC lounge.

"Checked in" to DOH, but do not have BPs. Printout says to go to check-in counters no later than 2 hours before scheduled departure. We have no plans to exit security just to pick up BPs.

Can AA at FCL do check-in for QR? Anyone have experience here?

(Did a search in this thread and did not find an answer.)
You can get it at the gate. You only need to check at least 2 hours if you're needing to go to the ticketing desk. The QR contracted staff leave to go work the flight at a certain point. Thus there no one to check you in. I just did this a week ago. Came in on AA from LAX with 1.5hr layover before QR flight. Gate simply issued BPS and checked me in no issues.

BTW Which QR flight are you on? The evening flight departs from T8. However the morning flight departs from T7. Thus if the morning you do need to check in at the front counter to get BP.
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Old Jan 4, 2017 | 1:06 pm
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Originally Posted by flyerCO
You can get it at the gate. You only need to check at least 2 hours if you're needing to go to the ticketing desk. The QR contracted staff leave to go work the flight at a certain point. Thus there no one to check you in. I just did this a week ago. Came in on AA from LAX with 1.5hr layover before QR flight. Gate simply issued BPS and checked me in no issues.

BTW Which QR flight are you on? The evening flight departs from T8. However the morning flight departs from T7. Thus if the morning you do need to check in at the front counter to get BP.

Thank you.

We are on the evening flight tonight, sitting in the FCL now. Called QR before seeing your response and received the same response - ignore the "two-hour" requirement, do NOT go back out past security (their advice ) and go to the gate a little early to pick up boarding passes.
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Old Jan 4, 2017 | 3:10 pm
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Originally Posted by Global321
Thank you.

We are on the evening flight tonight, sitting in the FCL now. Called QR before seeing your response and received the same response - ignore the "two-hour" requirement, do NOT go back out past security (their advice ) and go to the gate a little early to pick up boarding passes.
For future reference - how did you get into the lounge without a qualifying boarding pass? Did you show them your itinerary or something?
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