AA flights chronically delayed / poor on-time performance
Aug 13, 2016 | 8:28 am
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head-rolling in progress
In the scheduling dept vs. OPs war, OPs has prevailed in making the argument that there's no way to run the schedule the way it is now and that the current state of affairs is scheduling's fault, not OP's.
That view has prevailed, for now, and changes are afoot. If those changes don't help, larger changes (at OPs, then) will quickly follow-- the will to fix and the urgency of same has arrived (later than it should have, ironically
)
That view has prevailed, for now, and changes are afoot. If those changes don't help, larger changes (at OPs, then) will quickly follow-- the will to fix and the urgency of same has arrived (later than it should have, ironically
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Aug 13, 2016 | 8:43 am
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But one way or another, critical mass has been reached.
Aug 13, 2016 | 9:31 am
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OPs argument (which has been accepted-- for now) is that there's no possible way to run the current schedule. That said, it's explicit in this that while OP's argument has been accepted (that this is mostly scheduling's fault, that things are in an absolute shambles) they will have a short time to prove themselves and if they can't run the new schedule after forthcoming adjustments, they'll get sacked too.
But one way or another, critical mass has been reached.
But one way or another, critical mass has been reached.
Aug 13, 2016 | 9:40 am
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I can't tell if the word wholesale applies or not (just trying to stick to what I know vs. what I might assume,) but, yes, I'd certainly assume we'll see large-scale changes.
Aug 13, 2016 | 10:06 am
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In the scheduling dept vs. OPs war, OPs has prevailed in making the argument that there's no way to run the schedule the way it is now and that the current state of affairs is scheduling's fault, not OP's.
That view has prevailed, for now, and changes are afoot. If those changes don't help, larger changes (at OPs, then) will quickly follow-- the will to fix and the urgency of same has arrived (later than it should have, ironically )
That view has prevailed, for now, and changes are afoot. If those changes don't help, larger changes (at OPs, then) will quickly follow-- the will to fix and the urgency of same has arrived (later than it should have, ironically
)One thing I notice besides chronic lack of gates - mechanical things getting discovered shortly before takeoff on planes that had been there for a couple of hours or more.
Aug 13, 2016 | 10:13 am
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This has to be part of it - big time. I cannot fathom which bean counter thought it was a good idea convert ORD ops to 35 minute connections. Would love to know the thought process behind that (actually no I wouldn't - it would be too mind bogglingly stupid to waste brain cells on!). On the bright side, booking it from L10 to G16 in 5 minutes is one hell of a workout!
Aug 13, 2016 | 11:48 am
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Is it the banking changes (I think that was the term) they made last year or just not enough time between flights?
One thing I notice besides chronic lack of gates - mechanical things getting discovered shortly before takeoff on planes that had been there for a couple of hours or more.
One thing I notice besides chronic lack of gates - mechanical things getting discovered shortly before takeoff on planes that had been there for a couple of hours or more.
This has to be part of it - big time. I cannot fathom which bean counter thought it was a good idea convert ORD ops to 35 minute connections. Would love to know the thought process behind that (actually no I wouldn't - it would be too mind bogglingly stupid to waste brain cells on!). On the bright side, booking it from L10 to G16 in 5 minutes is one hell of a workout!
But, certainly as a personal opinion, these opinions sound pretty spot-on.
Aug 13, 2016 | 11:55 am
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The banking of the hubs was the first thing that came to my mind when scheduling has been assigned to try and fix things. It still drives me nuts when a plane comes into the gate perfectly fine but then all of a sudden my outbound flight on the SAME plane all of a sudden has a mx issue out of the blue.
Aug 13, 2016 | 1:12 pm
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This has to be part of it - big time. I cannot fathom which bean counter thought it was a good idea convert ORD ops to 35 minute connections. Would love to know the thought process behind that (actually no I wouldn't - it would be too mind bogglingly stupid to waste brain cells on!). On the bright side, booking it from L10 to G16 in 5 minutes is one hell of a workout!
Aug 13, 2016 | 2:04 pm
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In the scheduling dept vs. OPs war, OPs has prevailed in making the argument that there's no way to run the schedule the way it is now and that the current state of affairs is scheduling's fault, not OP's.
That view has prevailed, for now, and changes are afoot. If those changes don't help, larger changes (at OPs, then) will quickly follow-- the will to fix and the urgency of same has arrived (later than it should have, ironically )
That view has prevailed, for now, and changes are afoot. If those changes don't help, larger changes (at OPs, then) will quickly follow-- the will to fix and the urgency of same has arrived (later than it should have, ironically
)
Aug 13, 2016 | 4:18 pm
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That would be the US Air executives, particularly Scott Kirby, who jumped the gun on rebanking the whole airline without giving any thought to the operational logistics of things like a 35 minute transfer at ORD. Kirby cited too much lost revenue as reasoning for going back to banked hubs.
Banking hubs is a sound strategy. But only if the underlying operation is sound. Banking hubs while running two un-integrated airlines is not the smartest idea and the chickens are coming home to roost.
The reason to bank is because of the way tickets are sold now is by price and trip time (for most people; FTers are a different breed
). By rebanking, AA tried to set itself up to be at the top of most search engines by having the lowest trip time combined with a reasonable fare, as well as to increase utilization of its planes. But if no one believes the trip time/departure time is realistic because AA's ops suck, then what's the point?
Aug 13, 2016 | 9:09 pm
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Have to say, AA's MIA-LHR flights lately aren't exactly on time either. Each time I look lately in the past few weeks, they're averaging 30 minutes to 3 hours late getting off the ground. While I understand we often suffer from WX delays out of MIA, it seems most for these two flights are MX related.
The humorous part being both 56 and 38 were taxiing out one immediately behind the other tonight (just before 11pm)... considering 56 was scheduled at 7:20pm and 38 at 9:15pm... should make for a fun time at LHR T3 baggage claim in the morning (I can only imagine how many people will see AA and MIA listed on the display and completely ignore the actual flight number, waiting for their bags from the wrong flight).
The humorous part being both 56 and 38 were taxiing out one immediately behind the other tonight (just before 11pm)... considering 56 was scheduled at 7:20pm and 38 at 9:15pm... should make for a fun time at LHR T3 baggage claim in the morning (I can only imagine how many people will see AA and MIA listed on the display and completely ignore the actual flight number, waiting for their bags from the wrong flight).
Aug 13, 2016 | 9:19 pm
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Have to say, AA's MIA-LHR flights lately aren't exactly on time either. Each time I look lately in the past few weeks, they're averaging 30 minutes to 3 hours late getting off the ground. While I understand we often suffer from WX delays out of MIA, it seems most for these two flights are MX related.
The humorous part being both 56 and 38 were taxiing out one immediately behind the other tonight (just before 11pm)... considering 56 was scheduled at 7:20pm and 38 at 9:15pm... should make for a fun time at LHR T3 baggage claim in the morning (I can only imagine how many people will see AA and MIA listed on the display and completely ignore the actual flight number, waiting for their bags from the wrong flight).
The humorous part being both 56 and 38 were taxiing out one immediately behind the other tonight (just before 11pm)... considering 56 was scheduled at 7:20pm and 38 at 9:15pm... should make for a fun time at LHR T3 baggage claim in the morning (I can only imagine how many people will see AA and MIA listed on the display and completely ignore the actual flight number, waiting for their bags from the wrong flight).
Aug 14, 2016 | 1:31 pm
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They definitely jumped the gun.
Banking hubs is a sound strategy. But only if the underlying operation is sound. Banking hubs while running two un-integrated airlines is not the smartest idea and the chickens are coming home to roost.
The reason to bank is because of the way tickets are sold now is by price and trip time (for most people; FTers are a different breed). By rebanking, AA tried to set itself up to be at the top of most search engines by having the lowest trip time combined with a reasonable fare, as well as to increase utilization of its planes. But if no one believes the trip time/departure time is realistic because AA's ops suck, then what's the point?
Banking hubs is a sound strategy. But only if the underlying operation is sound. Banking hubs while running two un-integrated airlines is not the smartest idea and the chickens are coming home to roost.
The reason to bank is because of the way tickets are sold now is by price and trip time (for most people; FTers are a different breed
). By rebanking, AA tried to set itself up to be at the top of most search engines by having the lowest trip time combined with a reasonable fare, as well as to increase utilization of its planes. But if no one believes the trip time/departure time is realistic because AA's ops suck, then what's the point?