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AB / airberlin "Air Berlin" award issues (by 28 Oct 2017 winds down ops)

AB / airberlin "Air Berlin" award issues (by 28 Oct 2017 winds down ops)

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Currently (24 Sep 2017): airberlin has filed for insolvency, and announced they will wind down all operations by 28 October 2017. As of 15 Oct 2017 discontinued all long haul operations. Link to Forbes Magazine article.

Previously:

NOTE: change may be in the air.

Originally Posted by spongenotbob View Post
http://aviationweek.com/awincommerci...ses-us-partner
http://www.aero.de/news-25278/Americ...ir-Berlin.html
http://www.tt.com/home/12164834-91/a...nes-bangen.csp

The end is nigh...

Should be interesting for those holding award seats on airBerlin... (that would include me).
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Old Nov 15, 15, 6:42 am
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Exclamation AB / airberlin "Air Berlin" award issues (by 28 Oct 2017 winds down ops)

Trying to book TXL-DUS on 1/24 on AB. There are 4 available award flights open for almost every day till Jan 3 and from then on, nothing is available on any AB flight, anywhere. The Qantas site shows availability on AB, so I thought for sure that if I call AA it will be available. I spoke to 5 AA agents and all that they can say is "Sorry sir, there are no available flights on AB
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Old Nov 15, 15, 6:42 am
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No AB / Air Berlin award availability on AA after 3 Jan 2016?

Trying to book TXL-DUS on 1/24 on AB. There are 4 available award flights open for almost every day till Jan 3 and from then on, nothing is available on any AB flight, anywhere. The Qantas site shows availability on AB, so I thought for sure that if I call AA it will be available. I spoke to 5 AA agents and all that they can say is "Sorry sir, there are no available flights on AB
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Old Nov 15, 15, 6:54 am
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Most likely just a glitch, AA sometimes does systems & schedule updates on Saturday nights / Sunday mornings. I wouldn't worry.

FYI, you can buy the flight for $86, or take the train for $21.
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Old Nov 15, 15, 7:06 am
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Most likely just a glitch, AA sometimes does systems & schedule updates on Saturday nights / Sunday mornings. I wouldn't worry.

FYI, you can buy the flight for $86, or take the train for $21.
Thanks for you reply. I am trying since Wednesday.
I was trying book other flights as well. like DUS-CUN. I gave the example TXL-DUS because that is usually always available.
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Old Nov 15, 15, 7:17 am
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I see AB space--for example, JFK-DUS on 1/13. That being said, it seems a lot of people have been having issues booking awards online.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...stem-down.html
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Old Nov 15, 15, 11:26 am
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Anyone have any luck further out? Trying to get TXL or DUS to a US gateway in July 16 and AA.com is pushing everything to BA via LHR. Not a single AB result. The QF website is showing availability, though...
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Old Nov 15, 15, 11:50 am
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Anyone have any luck further out? Trying to get TXL or DUS to a US gateway in July 16 and AA.com is pushing everything to BA via LHR. Not a single AB result. The QF website is showing availability, though...
No luck here. It's very strange that the QF and BA sites are showing availability and you can't even book it by phone. What's even stranger that until Jan 3rd there is availability on almost every flight and after that it's dead.
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Old Nov 15, 15, 3:09 pm
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I noticed this a week ago and initially attributed it to the website issues. However, Even short hops that were always avaable (zrh txl) are zeroed out now for months in a row. There is nothing avil from germany to greece for summer 2016 on airberlin (only on niki)
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Old Nov 15, 15, 3:26 pm
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Originally Posted by sosfo View Post
Anyone have any luck further out? Trying to get TXL or DUS to a US gateway in July 16 and AA.com is pushing everything to BA via LHR. Not a single AB result. The QF website is showing availability, though...
Originally Posted by lagvod View Post
No luck here. It's very strange that the QF and BA sites are showing availability and you can't even book it by phone. What's even stranger that until Jan 3rd there is availability on almost every flight and after that it's dead.
It does look like AB is not showing up when searching FROM Europe. I see AB availability TO Europe. However, I am not seeing AB on BA.com either, even when searching something as simple as DUS-TXL. On a different note, I am seeing options on AA metal, e.g. AA 241 ORD-DUS 1 seat in J on 7/16/16.
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Old Dec 3, 15, 1:23 pm
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No AB / airberlin availability for 2016 issues - no space or engine trouble?

I was looking to see if there was any availability on AirBerlin NYC-DUS for early July, and there was none on AA or BA.
Looking at many alternate dates - no availability at all, for any dates, in any class.

I find it difficult to believe that there isn't a single ticket available for the whole summer.
Could this be a search engine fluke?
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Old Dec 3, 15, 1:54 pm
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Originally Posted by stevento View Post
I was looking to see if there was any availability on AirBerlin NYC-DUS for early July, and there was none on AA or BA.
Looking at many alternate dates - no availability at all, for any dates, in any class.

I find it difficult to believe that there isn't a single ticket available for the whole summer.
Could this be a search engine fluke?
I've been searching from early November, for flights US-EU between June-September, nothing came up at all for Airberlin (in contrast, i found a lot of availability with Airberlin in 2015 when i searched and booked them in 2014)... my gut feeling is, AA is shutting down almost all award availability till devaluation takes place (i really hope I'm wrong in this aspect)
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Old Dec 3, 15, 2:03 pm
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my gut feeling is, AA is shutting down almost all award availability till devaluation takes place (i really hope I'm wrong in this aspect)
OP said they searched on BA.com; I don't think AA has the power to "shut down" what BA.com sees...
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Old Dec 3, 15, 2:13 pm
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Originally Posted by arlflyer View Post
OP said they searched on BA.com; I don't think AA has the power to "shut down" what BA.com sees...
well as i said, it was just a gut feeling.. I do search on BA as well, but since both AA/BA are devaluing their program, it is possible that both AA/BA are "shutting down" or limiting award availability till their devaluation is complete.. .. But again hope i'm wrong and perhaps it is just Airberlin not giving out any awards out so far ahead..
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Old Dec 3, 15, 2:16 pm
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Originally Posted by arlflyer View Post
OP said they searched on BA.com; I don't think AA has the power to "shut down" what BA.com sees...
well as i said, it was just a gut feeling.. I do search on BA as well, but since both AA/BA are devaluing their program, it is possible that both AA/BA are "shutting down" or limiting award availability till their devaluation is complete.. .. But again hope i'm wrong and perhaps it is just Airberlin not giving out any awards out so far ahead..
BA is devaluing its program too?
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Old Dec 3, 15, 2:20 pm
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Qantas is showing the same, FWIW.

I went back to see what the latest Airberlin availability is

Jan 1 out - Jan 22 in...and nothing after that.
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