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Requests for MileSAAver inventory from RM / QMAX limitations
As of 8 April 2014, AA was said to no longer permitting telephone agents make requests for award inventory to be released. This used to be an undocumented benefit for EXPs and was a request to Revenue Management via the QMAX system. This was in error.
slight clarification:
The QMAX Shopping Requests guidelines have been modified to reflect the correct policy. The only scenarios that apply when shopping via QMAX are: This includes Z/U/T inventories. See AADAVAIL for guidelines.
The automated system will have an immediate answer and/or PNR documentation either confirming or denying the shopping request. If the above scenarios are denied, contact RSD for assistance. QMAX Appeals Requests is still being reviewed.
- Update 1710CT/23MAY QSDLFC
The QMAX Shopping Requests guidelines have been modified to reflect the correct policy. The only scenarios that apply when shopping via QMAX are:
- To complete a party
- To complete an itinerary
- Schedule Changes
- Medical or Death
- To correct AA error
The automated system will have an immediate answer and/or PNR documentation either confirming or denying the shopping request. If the above scenarios are denied, contact RSD for assistance. QMAX Appeals Requests is still being reviewed.
Updated 16 Jun 2017
Requests for MileSAAver inventory from RM / QMAX limitations
#226
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 336
Yes, it is. Nice to hear that. I thought those days were gone, but I am definitely going to try it. Appreciate the advice!
#227
Join Date: Apr 2008
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#228
Join Date: Jun 2012
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THANKS!
#229
Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: Sacramento, CA
Programs: AA Exec Plat, Hyatt,Marriott,BA,AS
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Hi, I wanted to ask another question about the reservations agent contacting revenue management. When I called, the reservations agent had never heard of this and had never requested it (I remember the old days when this was common practice), which made me hesitant, so I decided to hang up and will call again. Just wanted any tips or advice on what I should say on the next call or if there's someone else I need to ask for, etc..
THANKS!
THANKS!
#230
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Hi, I wanted to ask another question about the reservations agent contacting revenue management. When I called, the reservations agent had never heard of this and had never requested it (I remember the old days when this was common practice), which made me hesitant, so I decided to hang up and will call again. Just wanted any tips or advice on what I should say on the next call or if there's someone else I need to ask for, etc..
THANKS!
THANKS!
Requests for MileSAAver inventory from RM / QMAX limitations
#231
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: TPA
Programs: oneworld Rusty Iron; Starwood Aluminum
Posts: 217
usually referenced as QMAX (TCP and TCI.) It's far more limited than the posts in this thread might leave as an impression. In fact it was reported as "dead" a few years ago. That report was erroneous, but -is- very, very limited.
Requests for MileSAAver inventory from RM / QMAX limitations
Requests for MileSAAver inventory from RM / QMAX limitations
I called this am, day 4 of a held reservation on JL for 2 pax in J, to make a request for our final leg (ORD-CVG). After mentioning the above about rev mgmt and QMAX, the rep stated she had no ability to request seats that aren't there. I explained a bit of my frustration that looking at almost any month prior to May '18 and you see almost full saaver availability Tue-Sun and likely would see the same for our date in the coming months. Nada
#232
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You'll see people post success stories every now and then, so it happens. But more likely to succeed within a (very) few days of the flight.
#233
Join Date: Aug 2004
Programs: AA (EP), Hilton (Diamond), Marriott Bonvoy (Titanium)
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Likely you reached a LUS agent (or a fairly new agent), who is unfamiliar with QMAX. when I get an agent who says it doesn't exist, I say "Oh, sorry, thanks" and politely end the call, then call back.
#234
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Ireland
Programs: BA: GOLD, MARRIOTT: TITANIUM, IHG: PLAT, HILTON: GOLD
Posts: 491
Back in 2014 I was booking awards for the family fly LHR-LAS-HKG-ADL-SIN-LHR in business.
Getting 4 seats on any flight was impossible but I had it all planned with 2 + 2, we all left on the same day, just on different flights. One of the flights I had booked was LHR-DEN-???-LAS however the last flight only had one first seat so I asked if another could be opened. She put me on hold, then came back and said someone would call me back.
A few hours later someone from the EXP desk called back and had changed all my planned flights and got us all together on all flights. The LHR-DEN-???-LAS, changed to LHR-DFW-LAS all on AA metal, in the new J seats. Through their liaison they'd also got us 4 seats on the HKG-ADL CX flight, only two had been available for awards.
Getting 4 seats on any flight was impossible but I had it all planned with 2 + 2, we all left on the same day, just on different flights. One of the flights I had booked was LHR-DEN-???-LAS however the last flight only had one first seat so I asked if another could be opened. She put me on hold, then came back and said someone would call me back.
A few hours later someone from the EXP desk called back and had changed all my planned flights and got us all together on all flights. The LHR-DEN-???-LAS, changed to LHR-DFW-LAS all on AA metal, in the new J seats. Through their liaison they'd also got us 4 seats on the HKG-ADL CX flight, only two had been available for awards.
#236
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 1,263
To follow-up to my early question, I'm trying to complete a HSV to ADL trip and all legs are available at the Saaver level, except for DFW to LAX. I was shot down multiple times when trying to get them to put in a request to have a seat made available at the Saaver level on DFW to LAX. Very surprising there are absolutely no lower level awards since there are so many daily flights between that city pair and all are at the Anytime level.
These AA miles are getting harder and harder to use...
These AA miles are getting harder and harder to use...
#237
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As far as your experience with them not being able to secure additional award seats via QMAX request, as I posted above-- trust me-- despite a few reports in this thread, it's very uncommon and failure is by FAR the majority experience.
#238
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 336
Economy SAAvers Only?
Hi,
We have 2 international Business Class MileSAAver tickets for an upcoming trip. The domestic portion was originally only available in Economy and today one First Class seat opened up. We were able to get one of our tickets changed to the First Class seat.
When I inquired, the agent had never heard of QMAX, but said she'd ask her Help Desk if she could request another First Class seat to complete a party. The Help Desk told her QMAX is only done now for Economy MileSAAvers. Is that correct, or should I call back?
THANKS!
We have 2 international Business Class MileSAAver tickets for an upcoming trip. The domestic portion was originally only available in Economy and today one First Class seat opened up. We were able to get one of our tickets changed to the First Class seat.
When I inquired, the agent had never heard of QMAX, but said she'd ask her Help Desk if she could request another First Class seat to complete a party. The Help Desk told her QMAX is only done now for Economy MileSAAvers. Is that correct, or should I call back?
THANKS!
#240
Join Date: Sep 2009
Programs: AA
Posts: 14
An agent with a good deal of seniority on the AA side noted today that effective March, 2017 QMAX will simply not respond back to requests for inventory in premium classes so those agent requests won't actually return anything (not even remarks) while coach cabin requests will continue to be processed within the current request type parameters (i.e. TCP/TC). Apparently "qualified" premium cabin award space requests are to be channeled via RSD but it's unclear what that qualified means in that context unless it's to fix an error or something along those lines.
Couldn't find anything more substantial to back this up but in the past two attempts in recent months, it could why an answer never came back for premium inventory requests of any kind via the Q system (neither in the affirmative nor in the negative). If it is accurate, it might be worth updating the Wiki.
Couldn't find anything more substantial to back this up but in the past two attempts in recent months, it could why an answer never came back for premium inventory requests of any kind via the Q system (neither in the affirmative nor in the negative). If it is accurate, it might be worth updating the Wiki.