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AA ends North American Gateway Stopover for International Awards [8 Apr 2014]

AA ends North American Gateway Stopover for International Awards [8 Apr 2014]

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AA Ends International Award Free N. America Gateway Stopover
As of April 8, 2014 - no prior notice given.

● As of 8 April 2014, AA North America to international destination awards no longer offer a voluntary stopover at the N. A. international gateway.

● Stopovers are defined as more than 4 hours for itineraries using an award within/between the U.S./Canada/PR/USVI and more than 24 hours for itineraries using a Mexico, Caribbean or other international award as of 8 Jan 2014. (JonNYC).

● Awards ticketed prior to April 8 can add or change a stopover. Refer the AAgent to the "All Partner Award Guidelines" document which can be found on jetnet at Webref-> jetnet-> aawrcontent-> res-> resstaff-> internal-> AADAP. Giving this to the agent should be enough to find it. This is from the version dated 7/22/2014 with credit to JonNYC:

Tickets issued prior to April 8, 2014, free international stopovers on international awards are allowed at the North American gateway.

●For stopover purposes only, the North American gateway is defined as the passenger's first point of arrival or last point of departure in the U.S./Canada/PR/USVI/Mexico

●Stopovers within/between all other regions require additional awards
●Changes or adding a stopover to this ticket will require a call to Tariff for PQR prior to setting up reissue
This thread is for discussion of the now eliminated international north american gateway stopover on awards.

Other topics that are related may be followed here:

. . . Wiki: AA Quietly Increases AAnytime Award Mileage Charges [8 Apr 2014]

. . . Oneworld Explorer Awards Eliminated -- Effective Immediately [8 Apr 2014]

. . . Wiki: Free Checked Bag / Baggage Changes as of 8 Apr 2014

. . . Angry about AAdvantage devaluation / vent / what can I do? (April 2014, consolidated)
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Old Apr 8, 14, 2:24 am
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AA ends North American Gateway Stopover for International Awards [8 Apr 2014]

I was tipped off by the One Mile at a Time Blog;

1) Free International Gateway Stopovers have been eliminated. Specifically, if you were ticketed before 4/8, you can add the intl stopover; if not you can't.

2) AAdvantage AAnytime Awards are going up and will have more than one level of AAnytime is the discussion thread for that.

I verified both at the Exp desk and re: #1, changed LAX-HKG-HAN to TPA-LAX-HKG-HAN but couldn't change HKG-LAX to HAN-HKG-LAX-MIA (could do HKG-LAX-MIA though). Reason given was HAN would require reticketing.

I added LAX-MIA (now have HKG-LAX-MIA) and will try to add HAN to that later.

Surprised if this is the first post here on it.

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Old Apr 8, 14, 3:06 am
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No international gateway stopover will SUCK.
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Old Apr 8, 14, 3:38 am
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Originally Posted by beachfan View Post
2) Free International Gateway Stopovers have been eliminated. Specifically, if you were ticketed before 4/8, you can add the intl stopover; if not you can't.
This was mentioned in http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/22667686-post6.html. The comments on One Mile at a Time made a reference to it.
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Old Apr 8, 14, 4:00 am
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Any indication whether the new stopover rules apply to a layover under 24 hours even if that is overnight?
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Old Apr 8, 14, 4:05 am
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this is awful.
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Old Apr 8, 14, 4:40 am
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Well here we go... The "American Airlines" US-AIRization begins
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Old Apr 8, 14, 4:57 am
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Explorer Awards also eliminated.
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Old Apr 8, 14, 5:05 am
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Mileage devaluation happens... fact of life. Shame on AA, however, for not providing any advance notice.
This is not the AA I've grown to love over the past 15 years of frequent travel.

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Old Apr 8, 14, 7:49 am
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Old Apr 8, 14, 7:51 am
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Originally Posted by Blueboys999 View Post
Any indication whether the new stopover rules apply to a layover under 24 hours even if that is overnight?
I don't know if this has been mentioned, but an overnight of this sort is not considered a stopover and I doubt that it will be eliminated. I have recently booked award travel involving AB, and a high percentage of their flights requires spending a night in Berlin or Dusseldorf.
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Old Apr 8, 14, 8:03 am
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I am really shocked that this happened without notice, especially the loss of Explorer Awards. I just finished a trip for which I would have had enough miles for a long-planned Explorer award. By the time the miles posted, the ability to book it was gone.

I am really disappointed in how AA handled this. Very poor customer service and treatment of elites, and everyone else. Frankly, I feel a bit insulted.
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Old Apr 8, 14, 8:18 am
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Why even bother keeping the AA name? After taking away everything that makes it AA, they should just call the company US and be done with it.
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Old Apr 8, 14, 8:49 am
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How about throw us a bone and eliminate the stupid routing rules, so we can route through europe for Asia 2 or connect in Aisa 1 or 2 for south pacific. Also easter Island should be part of SA 2.

I currently have a award ticket from OGG- lax stop over for 5 months and the lax on hold... I wonder if i can ticket this.
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Old Apr 8, 14, 8:57 am
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These will be sorely missed; the oneworld Explorer award was an aspirational award for many members.

This also explains why US Airways Dividend Miles members were told these awards were not available to them once US became an affiliate oneworld member (affiliated under American Airlines effective 31 March 2014). The hammer was already in the air an descending.

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Old Apr 9, 14, 10:27 am
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Remember: if you booked an award with North American international gateway stopover prior to 8 April, you are still OK; if you must make changes to the award 8 April or after, it may no longer allow the international gateway stopover, however.
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