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Meals changes US & AA announced - international and domestic
[Discussion]This thread discusses changes to the combined carrier's meal policy. On Friday, 14 Nov 2014, the following e-mail was sent to AAdvantage frequent flyers:
this after an apparent record of the percentage of complaints received in response to earlier announcements (80% of complaints were about the meal cutbacks),
On Monday, August 4th, 2014, American and US Airways both announced their plans for the final aligned meal service effective September 1st, 2014 for both carriers. This Wiki will touch upon in detail the new meal windows, parameters, and what to expect moving forward.
MEAL WINDOWS:
Up to 699 miles (under 2 hours):
Enjoy a light snack such as a fig bar, cookies or pretzels.
700-999 miles (2 2:45 hours)
A heartier selection of snacks such as sandwiches and fresh fruit is served on most flights (Lite Bites), with exceptions (see below).
1,000 1,298 miles (2:45 3:30 hours)*
Enjoy warmed mixed nuts, followed by a three-course meal including a warm cookie for dessert.
1,299+ miles (over 3:30 hours)*
Enjoy an appetizer paired with your entre followed by cake for dessert. On flights over 2,200 miles and over 4:30 hours, you'll also receive a choice of dessert specialty ice cream or a fruit and cheese plate. Redeye flights in the category of 2,200 miles and above will have a snack basket to begin, then will receive an arrival continental breakfast box. (This does not apply to A321 transcons, listed below.)
*There is no meal service on flights that depart after 8:00pm, only beverages and a snack basket. There is also no meal service on flights that depart before 5:00am.
CERTAIN MARKETS:
A321 Transcontinental Service (JFK-LAX/SFO):
- Refreshing fruit or cucumber-infused water or sparkling wine
- Warm mixed nuts followed by a three-course meal, with a choice of our signature customized sundae or seasonal fruit and cheese
- A snack served shortly before arrival
Note: This focuses specifically on A321 transcontinental service (JFK-LAX/SFO), although some members has clarified that LAX-MIA will continue to receive the same level of service. This still remains to be seen.
Hawaiian Flights:
Between Hawaii and DFW/ORD:
- Full meal with Hawaiian rolls plus two other bread options
- Choice of a customized sundae or a fruit and cheese plate
- Bottle of water
- Selection of snacks prior to arrival
Between Hawaii and LAX/PHX:
- Full meal with Hawaiian rolls plus two other bread options
- Pre-made sundae
- Selection of snacks prior to arrival
EXCEPTION MARKETS:
Exception flights will fall between approximately 600-999 miles. Those flights will receive the same level of service as the published 1000-1299 miles parameters.
- Between DFW and: DTW, ORD, SLC, MEX (Effective 16-Oct-2014)
- Between FLL and: PAP
- Between JFK and: FLL*, MCO, TPA*
- Between MIA and: IAH, PAP, CAP, DCA (Effective 16-Oct-2014), IAD (Effective 16-Oct-2014)
- Between MSP and: CLT, PHL
- Between ORD and: BOS, DCA, DEN, JFK, LGA, RDU, AUS (Effective 16-Oct-2014)
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION:
It was reported from an internal source (but not formally announced) that American Eagle would be discontinuing plated meals and, instead, will offer snack boxes and/or chilled meal boxes on meal flights.
Based on the picture on the websites representing meal service, it is confirmed that American will use US Airways plates, bowls, and other servingware moving forward. Additionally, it has been speculated that tray linens will also be eliminated in lieu of the current US Airways paper tray liner. An AA Twitter representative, however, confirmed that buttonhole napkins would be here to stay.
Additionally on October 1st, American Eagle and US Airways Express flights will follow these same meal time frames with some variations to the service. Flights between approximately 176 and 999 miles will receive snack baskets, and meal flights will feature a chilled gourmet boxed meal. Some popular regional flights between approximately 700 and 999 miles will also receive a chilled gourmet boxed meal.
All information above has been gathered and/or copied from the AA website.
Links:
AA Meal Service
US Meal Service
HISTORICAL INFORMATION:
This section is purely vestigial, primarily concentrating on historical announcements prior to August 4th, showing a path from separate carrier policies to a combined policy.
On February 15, 2014, there was an internal announcement shared here, outlining changes to US Airways' meal policy, as well as a few minor changes on the AA side. The changes would occur in two phases: April and September.
April:
US Airways
The meal windows on US Airways has transitioned from the previous 3 1/2 hours and above window as of April 1st; now, they are serving meals on flights that are 2 hours and 45 minutes, and above (specified as 1,000 nautical miles in the announcement). Light snacks on flights under 2:45 hours has been added, featuring breakfast pastries and fresh fruit for morning flights, as well as finger sandwiches on later flights (known as Lite Bites). New meal window tiers has been added to standardize US Airways meal service:
- Less than an hour: Nut mix
- 1 - 2 hours: Snack basket
- 2 - 2:45 hours: Snack basket plus pastries/finger sandwiches (Lite Bites)
- 2:45 hours - 3 1/2 hours: Meal service, no appetizer
- 3 1/2 hours - 4 1/2 hours: Full meal, including an appetizer
- 4 1/2 hours and above: Full meal service, accompanied by the snack basket
American
An expedited service for shorter, eastbound transatlantic flights (JFK-LHR/MAN/DUB) became the only choice in premium cabins. It was also announced that all eastbound transatlantic flights would receive a more streamlined service, but no visible differences has yet to be reported by FT members.
Over the course of this year (but all mentioned changes will discontinue on September 1st, with the exception of A321 transcons receiving three choices, as well as snack & brunch service for redeyes) a few notable improvements were made to transcontinental meal service, such as sorbets being offered as a breakfast/brunch dessert, supper service (an abbreviated dinner service without an appetizer and sundaes) that replaced snack service on redeyes, and three menu choices of entrees being offered instead of the previous two menu choices.
There were also a few cutbacks in the spring: on Flagship Transcontinental service (JFK-LAX/SFO; MIA-LAX), wherein marinated anti-pasto was discontinued in 3-class First Class lunch/dinner service; and in International First Class, where the wine-tasting course, grey placemats, and grey water glasses were eliminated in May.
Historical Weekly Updates (shared from an internal source):
6/14
- Emphasis on being a leader, not a follower, according to Doug Parker.
- Catering and cabin equipment review in progress.
- FA involvement team to be created.
- US/IB codeshare has started these past few days.
- Three cycles of the revision for the joint certificate have been approved by the FAA. FAs now have inflight manual revisions.
- MIA and JFK catering issues are still being addressed.
- Visual presentation of the beef in the sandwich on the second meal service from Europe to the United States is being reviewed by F&B and catering in Europe.
6/21
- Leadership conference focused on restoring AA to greatness.
Reply to negative feedback via website form: (3.5 hr flight RNO-ORD)
Thank you for contacting American. We know that meal options are important to our customers, and we appreciate the opportunity to address your comments about the changes we have made to our First Class meal program.
There are no plans to discontinue the signature services that have set American Airlines apart over the years. In fact, we are investing millions in our product. This includes the existing premium transcontinental service on select markets, and the offering of certain elements that customers have come to appreciate over time such as warm mixed nuts on all meal flights, cookies and premium desserts on longer flights.
Our new Domestic First Class service footprint provides opportunities to not only streamline service but also to enhance the quality of current food components: new salads and entrees. Product offerings are be aligned with the length of flight. For example, appetizers have been added on certain flights, and a new snack basket concept has been introduced on shorter flights. New meal tray elements to modernize presentation have been introduced, including new china and a stemless wine glass.
A component of these changes is to make consistent between American and US Airways the length of flight where a full meal service is offered. Effective September 1, traditional meal service is offered in First Class on flights operated by American that are 2:45 or longer. While this has removed the traditional meal service from some markets served by American, the changes implemented at US Airways earlier this year added meals to many US Airways markets that traditionally have not offered a full meal service.
On flights from 2 hours to 2:45 in length we offer our customers a "Lite Bites" basket with a variety of food options including tea sandwiches, fresh fruit, breakfast breads and sweet and savory snacks. We will, of course, continue to offer complimentary beverages and snacks for our First Class customers on all of our flights, including beer, spirits and our award-winning wine selection.
Meals changes US & AA announced - international and domestic [Discussion]
#722
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: RDU
Posts: 5,258
Can anyone help me figure out if there are Meals for Purchase on flights from MIA-CUR (Curacao)? Specifically on AA 977 MIA-CUR (afternoon flight) and AA 910 CUR-MIA (morning flight probably not). According to the AA website it looks like their should be food for purchase. I booked this itinerary on Orbitz and it only shows "Meals for Purchase" on the segment MIA-RDU. Itinerary is RDU-MIA-CUR and back.
I have a friend who is a little cranky about taking an evening flight, especially if there might not be any food on the plane!
I have a friend who is a little cranky about taking an evening flight, especially if there might not be any food on the plane!
#723
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: High Point, NC
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Posts: 9,171
What does the AA website show?
Jim
Jim
#724
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Dallas, Texas
Programs: AA, Southwest, Hilton, Hyatt
Posts: 237
There are quite a few markets that will are long enough for service and will now get a snack basket. How unbelievably tacky and what is a flight attendant going to do for 2:30hrs? Many end up spending half the flight on the jump seat as it is.
The ones that jump out at me are:
DFW - PHX, CUN, PVD, MEX, SDF, MSP, DEN, COS, EGE, ASE, MKE, CLT, ATL
MIA - RDU, DCA, IAD, SDQ
LAX - DEN, SEA
I'm not as familiar with US's system but I imagine there are quite a few flights that fall into this window.
The ones that jump out at me are:
DFW - PHX, CUN, PVD, MEX, SDF, MSP, DEN, COS, EGE, ASE, MKE, CLT, ATL
MIA - RDU, DCA, IAD, SDQ
LAX - DEN, SEA
I'm not as familiar with US's system but I imagine there are quite a few flights that fall into this window.
#726
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: RDU
Posts: 5,258
The flight MIA-CUR is just right at 3 hours. I'm not sure whether it qualifies for food for purchase, items like sandwiches or just snacks.
https://www.aa.com/i18n/travelInform...ealService.jsp
https://www.aa.com/i18n/travelInform...ealService.jsp
#727
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Dallas, TX
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Posts: 177
I'm not at all surprised to hear this is confirmed. I called this when they first announced the US Airways changes.
I am sure AA will announce it and claim that based on the "positive customer feedback" on the Lite Bites it is being implemented systemwide. It is so poorly executed. The FAs hand you a sandwich wrapped in a plastic bag but don't bother to give you and napkins. If you have a banana in the morning, they dont want to touch the peel so you have to put it in the trash for them. How very first class...
#728
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: High Point, NC
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Posts: 9,171
Note: food for purchase is about all any airline is going to have in coach. Getting a free meal in coach has all but disappeared.
Jim
#730
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Dallas, Texas
Programs: AA, Southwest, Hilton, Hyatt
Posts: 237
I'm not at all surprised to hear this is confirmed. I called this when they first announced the US Airways changes.
I am sure AA will announce it and claim that based on the "positive customer feedback" on the Lite Bites it is being implemented systemwide. It is so poorly executed. The FAs hand you a sandwich wrapped in a plastic bag but don't bother to give you and napkins. If you have a banana in the morning, they dont want to touch the peel so you have to put it in the trash for them. How very first class...
I am sure AA will announce it and claim that based on the "positive customer feedback" on the Lite Bites it is being implemented systemwide. It is so poorly executed. The FAs hand you a sandwich wrapped in a plastic bag but don't bother to give you and napkins. If you have a banana in the morning, they dont want to touch the peel so you have to put it in the trash for them. How very first class...
What is airlines and flight attendants aversion to proper food on short flights?!
#731
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#732
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#733
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What a complete and total joke: Here is a meeting topic from 6/21 "Leadership Conference" - I copied it directly from the sticky at top of thread.
what nerve...
6/21
Leadership conference focused on restoring AA to greatness.
what nerve...
6/21
Leadership conference focused on restoring AA to greatness.
#734
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: USA
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Posts: 4,165
Here's what doesn't make sense:
Earlier this year, AA actually added F meals to a few short-haul flights, such as RDU-ORD and DEN-DFW (both didn't have meals previously, even though the opposite direction did).
Why would AA add meal service on those flights, then quickly rescind meals September? The meal changes were done after the merger, too.
Earlier this year, AA actually added F meals to a few short-haul flights, such as RDU-ORD and DEN-DFW (both didn't have meals previously, even though the opposite direction did).
Why would AA add meal service on those flights, then quickly rescind meals September? The meal changes were done after the merger, too.