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Meals changes US & AA announced - international and domestic
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This thread discusses changes to the combined carrier's meal policy. On Friday, 14 Nov 2014, the following e-mail was sent to AAdvantage frequent flyers:


this after an apparent record of the percentage of complaints received in response to earlier announcements (80% of complaints were about the meal cutbacks),

On Monday, August 4th, 2014, American and US Airways both announced their plans for the final aligned meal service effective September 1st, 2014 for both carriers. This Wiki will touch upon in detail the new meal windows, parameters, and what to expect moving forward.

MEAL WINDOWS:

Up to 699 miles (under 2 hours):
Enjoy a light snack such as a fig bar, cookies or pretzels.

700-999 miles (2 – 2:45 hours)
A heartier selection of snacks such as sandwiches and fresh fruit is served on most flights (Lite Bites), with exceptions (see below).

1,000 – 1,298 miles (2:45 – 3:30 hours)*
Enjoy warmed mixed nuts, followed by a three-course meal including a warm cookie for dessert.

1,299+ miles (over 3:30 hours)*
Enjoy an appetizer paired with your entrée followed by cake for dessert. On flights over 2,200 miles and over 4:30 hours, you'll also receive a choice of dessert – specialty ice cream or a fruit and cheese plate. Redeye flights in the category of 2,200 miles and above will have a snack basket to begin, then will receive an arrival continental breakfast box. (This does not apply to A321 transcons, listed below.)

*There is no meal service on flights that depart after 8:00pm, only beverages and a snack basket. There is also no meal service on flights that depart before 5:00am.

CERTAIN MARKETS:

A321 Transcontinental Service (JFK-LAX/SFO):

  • Refreshing fruit or cucumber-infused water or sparkling wine
  • Warm mixed nuts followed by a three-course meal, with a choice of our signature customized sundae or seasonal fruit and cheese
  • A snack served shortly before arrival

Note: This focuses specifically on A321 transcontinental service (JFK-LAX/SFO), although some members has clarified that LAX-MIA will continue to receive the same level of service. This still remains to be seen.

Hawaiian Flights:

Between Hawaii and DFW/ORD:

  • Full meal with Hawaiian rolls plus two other bread options
  • Choice of a customized sundae or a fruit and cheese plate
  • Bottle of water
  • Selection of snacks prior to arrival

Between Hawaii and LAX/PHX:

  • Full meal with Hawaiian rolls plus two other bread options
  • Pre-made sundae
  • Selection of snacks prior to arrival

EXCEPTION MARKETS:

Exception flights will fall between approximately 600-999 miles. Those flights will receive the same level of service as the published 1000-1299 miles parameters.

  • Between DFW and: DTW, ORD, SLC, MEX (Effective 16-Oct-2014)
  • Between FLL and: PAP
  • Between JFK and: FLL*, MCO, TPA*
  • Between MIA and: IAH, PAP, CAP, DCA (Effective 16-Oct-2014), IAD (Effective 16-Oct-2014)
  • Between MSP and: CLT, PHL
  • Between ORD and: BOS, DCA, DEN, JFK, LGA, RDU, AUS (Effective 16-Oct-2014)
*Flights between JFK and TPA/FLL do not currently operate.
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION:

It was reported from an internal source (but not formally announced) that American Eagle would be discontinuing plated meals and, instead, will offer snack boxes and/or chilled meal boxes on meal flights.

Based on the picture on the websites representing meal service, it is confirmed that American will use US Airways plates, bowls, and other servingware moving forward. Additionally, it has been speculated that tray linens will also be eliminated in lieu of the current US Airways paper tray liner. An AA Twitter representative, however, confirmed that buttonhole napkins would be here to stay.

Additionally on October 1st, American Eagle and US Airways Express flights will follow these same meal time frames with some variations to the service. Flights between approximately 176 and 999 miles will receive snack baskets, and meal flights will feature a chilled gourmet boxed meal. Some popular regional flights between approximately 700 and 999 miles will also receive a chilled gourmet boxed meal.

All information above has been gathered and/or copied from the AA website.

Links:
AA Meal Service
US Meal Service

HISTORICAL INFORMATION:

This section is purely vestigial, primarily concentrating on historical announcements prior to August 4th, showing a path from separate carrier policies to a combined policy.

On February 15, 2014, there was an internal announcement shared here, outlining changes to US Airways' meal policy, as well as a few minor changes on the AA side. The changes would occur in two phases: April and September.

April:
US Airways
The meal windows on US Airways has transitioned from the previous 3 1/2 hours and above window as of April 1st; now, they are serving meals on flights that are 2 hours and 45 minutes, and above (specified as 1,000 nautical miles in the announcement). Light snacks on flights under 2:45 hours has been added, featuring breakfast pastries and fresh fruit for morning flights, as well as finger sandwiches on later flights (known as Lite Bites). New meal window tiers has been added to standardize US Airways meal service:

  • Less than an hour: Nut mix
  • 1 - 2 hours: Snack basket
  • 2 - 2:45 hours: Snack basket plus pastries/finger sandwiches (Lite Bites)
  • 2:45 hours - 3 1/2 hours: Meal service, no appetizer
  • 3 1/2 hours - 4 1/2 hours: Full meal, including an appetizer
  • 4 1/2 hours and above: Full meal service, accompanied by the snack basket

American
An expedited service for shorter, eastbound transatlantic flights (JFK-LHR/MAN/DUB) became the only choice in premium cabins. It was also announced that all eastbound transatlantic flights would receive a more streamlined service, but no visible differences has yet to be reported by FT members.

Over the course of this year (but all mentioned changes will discontinue on September 1st, with the exception of A321 transcons receiving three choices, as well as snack & brunch service for redeyes) a few notable improvements were made to transcontinental meal service, such as sorbets being offered as a breakfast/brunch dessert, supper service (an abbreviated dinner service without an appetizer and sundaes) that replaced snack service on redeyes, and three menu choices of entrees being offered instead of the previous two menu choices.

There were also a few cutbacks in the spring: on Flagship Transcontinental service (JFK-LAX/SFO; MIA-LAX), wherein marinated anti-pasto was discontinued in 3-class First Class lunch/dinner service; and in International First Class, where the wine-tasting course, grey placemats, and grey water glasses were eliminated in May.

Historical Weekly Updates (shared from an internal source):
6/14

  • Emphasis on being a leader, not a follower, according to Doug Parker.
  • Catering and cabin equipment review in progress.
  • FA involvement team to be created.
  • US/IB codeshare has started these past few days.
  • Three cycles of the revision for the joint certificate have been approved by the FAA. FAs now have inflight manual revisions.
  • MIA and JFK catering issues are still being addressed.
  • Visual presentation of the beef in the sandwich on the second meal service from Europe to the United States is being reviewed by F&B and catering in Europe.

6/21
  • Leadership conference focused on restoring AA to greatness.

Reply to negative feedback via website form: (3.5 hr flight RNO-ORD)

Thank you for contacting American. We know that meal options are important to our customers, and we appreciate the opportunity to address your comments about the changes we have made to our First Class meal program.

There are no plans to discontinue the signature services that have set American Airlines apart over the years. In fact, we are investing millions in our product. This includes the existing premium transcontinental service on select markets, and the offering of certain elements that customers have come to appreciate over time such as warm mixed nuts on all meal flights, cookies and premium desserts on longer flights.

Our new Domestic First Class service footprint provides opportunities to not only streamline service but also to enhance the quality of current food components: new salads and entrees. Product offerings are be aligned with the length of flight. For example, appetizers have been added on certain flights, and a new snack basket concept has been introduced on shorter flights. New meal tray elements to modernize presentation have been introduced, including new china and a stemless wine glass.

A component of these changes is to make consistent between American and US Airways the length of flight where a full meal service is offered. Effective September 1, traditional meal service is offered in First Class on flights operated by American that are 2:45 or longer. While this has removed the traditional meal service from some markets served by American, the changes implemented at US Airways earlier this year added meals to many US Airways markets that traditionally have not offered a full meal service.

On flights from 2 hours to 2:45 in length we offer our customers a "Lite Bites" basket with a variety of food options including tea sandwiches, fresh fruit, breakfast breads and sweet and savory snacks. We will, of course, continue to offer complimentary beverages and snacks for our First Class customers on all of our flights, including beer, spirits and our award-winning wine selection.
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Old Aug 24, 2015, 12:02 am
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Question about transcon J red-eye snack service (JFK-LAX) flying out at 9:30 pm in late September.

A few days ago was able to reserve the entree (had a choice of fruit/cheese plate, grilled halibut, or truffled mac & cheese). Now when I go back, that segment is gone.

Does that mean AA just cancelled the meal service on that flight or is that simply a bug? Is the snack service usually anything substantial?

Edit: Yep glitch indeed. Thanks Cmd320.

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Old Aug 24, 2015, 7:04 am
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Originally Posted by supermintyfresh
Question about transcon J red-eye snack service (JFK-LAX) flying out at 9:30 pm in late September.

A few days ago was able to reserve the entree (had a choice of fruit/cheese plate, grilled halibut, or truffled mac & cheese). Now when I go back, that segment is gone.

Does that mean AA just cancelled the meal service on that flight or is that simply a bug? Is the snack service usually anything substantial?
It's just a typical pre-order glitch. Should be restored in a few hours/days.
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Old Sep 14, 2015, 3:24 pm
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Redeye Meal Service or lack there of!

I flew LAX to CLT on US Airways Metal on Friday evening departing LAX at 10:40p and arriving CLT at 6:25am the next morning. Served PDB and beverages in flight along with one service of warmish nuts and that was all. From the WIKI posted at the top of this thread I thought we'd get the following...

"1,299+ miles (over 3:30 hours)*
Enjoy an appetizer paired with your entrée followed by cake for dessert. On flights over 2,200 miles and over 4:30 hours, you'll also receive a choice of dessert – specialty ice cream or a fruit and cheese plate. Redeye flights in the category of 2,200 miles and above will have a snack basket to begin, then will receive an arrival continental breakfast box. (This does not apply to A321 transcons, listed below.)"

Was I wrong to expect that?
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Old Sep 14, 2015, 3:31 pm
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Originally Posted by coswellnc
I flew LAX to CLT on US Airways Metal on Friday evening departing LAX at 10:40p and arriving CLT at 6:25am the next morning. Served PDB and beverages in flight along with one service of warmish nuts and that was all. From the WIKI posted at the top of this thread I thought we'd get the following...

"1,299+ miles (over 3:30 hours)*
Enjoy an appetizer paired with your entrée followed by cake for dessert. On flights over 2,200 miles and over 4:30 hours, you'll also receive a choice of dessert – specialty ice cream or a fruit and cheese plate. Redeye flights in the category of 2,200 miles and above will have a snack basket to begin, then will receive an arrival continental breakfast box. (This does not apply to A321 transcons, listed below.)"

Was I wrong to expect that?
Yep, AA inherited the after 8pm US meal service which includes... well nothing. Red-eye standard transcons get a snack basket (if you're lucky) and a breakfast box, that's about it.
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Old Sep 14, 2015, 3:34 pm
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Originally Posted by cmd320
Yep, AA inherited the after 8pm US meal service which includes... well nothing. Red-eye standard transcons get a snack basket (if you're lucky) and a breakfast box, that's about it.
Yea, that was my question...we didn't get a snack basket or breakfast box. Just beverages and one serving of nuts. Was wondering if the WIKI is wrong or was the plane mis-catered.
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Old Sep 14, 2015, 3:40 pm
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Originally Posted by coswellnc
Yea, that was my question...we didn't get a snack basket or breakfast box. Just beverages and one serving of nuts. Was wondering if the WIKI is wrong or was the plane mis-catered.
Sounds like it could possibly have been a miscater or equally likely, a lAAzy crew.
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Old Sep 14, 2015, 4:27 pm
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While the response from AA below was quick, it is the typical canned response which leads me to believe my concern wasn't even read. I think they just pushed a button for a pre-written response. I'll try again.

Dear Mr. Coswellnc:

Thank you for contacting Customer Relations at American Airlines.
I'm sorry you were disappointed that a meal wasn't served on your flight to Charlotte. After reading your letter, it's easy to see why you expected to eat on board -- and understand your being unhappy when you didn't get a meal. In addition to our apology, I'd like to explain.

Given that most of our customers make a connection on their trip, we believe it makes sense to serve meals only during set mealtimes, in order to avoid offering food on both legs of a connecting trip, and to customers who have already eaten before boarding or have special plans to eat when they reach their destination. Much of what we previously served outside normal meal times was simply wasted.

I hope this information helps you in planning your next trip. If you are unsure about whether or not a meal will be served on your flight, just call us or your travel professional. We'll be glad to look up your flight and let you know. We value you as our customer and don't want to disappoint you again. Thanks for flying with us.


Sincerely,

Axxxxxx Exxxxxxxx
Customer Relations
American Airlines
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Old Sep 14, 2015, 4:27 pm
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Originally Posted by cmd320
Yep, AA inherited the after 8pm US meal service which includes... well nothing. Red-eye standard transcons get a snack basket (if you're lucky) and a breakfast box, that's about it.
There seem to be a whole lot of exceptions to their stated policy. For example, breakfast flights from so-called "out-stations", of which there seem to be many, consists of cold cereal. AA is even so deceptive as to show these flights as breakfast flights until 30 days before departure when they change to "continental breakfast".
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Old Sep 14, 2015, 6:35 pm
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Now, if you read right under the header of Dinning InFlight you would have seen this....

When planning your travel, please keep in mind that we serve meals in First and Business Class between 5 a.m. and 8 p.m. Meals are also determined by flight miles, so time-ranges are approximate.


It's not like AA was hiding anything it was in plane (pun) sight...

Originally Posted by coswellnc
I flew LAX to CLT on US Airways Metal on Friday evening departing LAX at 10:40p and arriving CLT at 6:25am the next morning. Served PDB and beverages in flight along with one service of warmish nuts and that was all. From the WIKI posted at the top of this thread I thought we'd get the following...

"1,299+ miles (over 3:30 hours)*
Enjoy an appetizer paired with your entrée followed by cake for dessert. On flights over 2,200 miles and over 4:30 hours, you'll also receive a choice of dessert – specialty ice cream or a fruit and cheese plate. Redeye flights in the category of 2,200 miles and above will have a snack basket to begin, then will receive an arrival continental breakfast box. (This does not apply to A321 transcons, listed below.)"

Was I wrong to expect that?
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Old Sep 14, 2015, 7:22 pm
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Originally Posted by FlightNurse
Now, if you read right under the header of Dinning InFlight you would have seen this....

When planning your travel, please keep in mind that we serve meals in First and Business Class between 5 a.m. and 8 p.m. Meals are also determined by flight miles, so time-ranges are approximate.


It's not like AA was hiding anything it was in plane (pun) sight...
Except that OP didn't receive the snack basket or the breakfast box. Both of which should have been offered.
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Old Sep 14, 2015, 8:22 pm
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This thread was started at a time the meals situation was dynamic and changes were announced.

It has now proceeded to discussions about what meals are served, meal hours, sundaes, etc.

These are best discussed in the existing threads about domestic and international meals, as information fragmentation and diversion of information better posted in those threads has sometimes been posted here.

Please continue your domestic and international meals and menu discussions here:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...solidated.html

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...er-thread.html


Thank you,

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