geepmaley

Suzzin

I was excited for our trip to Tokyo until I started reading about the motion seats. We are scheduled out of DFW to NRT on flight 61, three seats. My original choice was 2D, 2H, and 2L. Will these be the wobble seats? Any way to know if it's rear facing? Two of us are slightly prone to motion sickness, so I'd like to minimize the odds.

I was actually searching for information on this flight vs the JAL flight. If we can do it, would you all recommend that over the AA flight?

lds89

I personally think it's overblown a bit - there are bumps and slight motion when people move so it can disturb you while you sleep but it's not like the seats shake the whole flight or anything. Anyways the short answer is you won't know until the tail is assigned but if it's 45 J it's a front / back seat and if it's 37J, it's more likely a BE/Aerospace seat. Tail numbers that correspond to each are in this wiki up top

On Zodiac equipped airplanes ( the ones that have the bumping problem) - these are the unconnected seats
1 A, D, H ; 7 A, L ; 12 A, L

Austin787

If you can, definitely choose the JAL flight - superior service over AA.

According to seatguru, 2D and 2H are forward facing and 2L is backward facing. And that is assuming you fly on a 772 with backward facing seats - AA also has a 772 version with all forward facing seats. Unfortunately there is no way to know which 772 version will operate your flight so your best bet is choose seats that are guaranteed to be forward facing.

lds89

Sure, the service is better and I did like the seat but JAL cabins are very, very warm. If you're like me and can't sleep in 78 degrees+ (and need to), you choose the AA product every time. I frankly have never liked the food on JAL that much, except for the midflight curries

In economy - totally different story as I won't sleep well anyways, and JAL economy is fantastic - sizeable food, tons of leg room, and service that beats AA J a lot of the time (in Y!)

Djokison

And footrests in Y!

pkerr

How does one go about finding out the tail number of their flight?

ACA321

Entering your flight number in the search field on www.flightradar24.com is one way. The tail numbers are usually assigned 1-2 days out, but can change up until shortly before departure.

fedechat

The first 772 high-J (45J) is in PAE, registration number N788AN and today Gary is reporting they will remove 8 business class seats in order to have an standard configuration, also they will not install new BE Aero Super Diamond seat, it looks like they will keep the same Zodiac seats which means we will ended up with 19 planes with Zodiac seats 28 with Super Diamond seats.

econometrics

^ Few surprises there.

I hope they are finally doing some permanent "fixes" to the motion issues with the Zodiac seats while they're in the hanger. With that taken care of, I actually think the Zodiac seat is just as good as the Super Diamond.

fedechat

I doubt it, they said "we will fix it" a couple of months ago but my last flight on Zodiac seats back in December the issue persisted .

JDiver

I’m not surprised either.

As to quality, I beg to differ: in my experience, the “fit and finish” of the Zodiac Concept D are inferior to the B/E Super Diamond. Add the privacy screen malfunctions and the “motion over the ocean”, and by demanding a modified, one-off seat to save money over buying the Zodiac OEM Cirrus (used with minor modifications on the 77W) AA added a cheaper and inferior seat and Zodiac (previously Weber) overreached on delivery, causing them to be sued for breach of contract on seats delivery. That was followed by a lengthy period as AA searched for a replacement seat and negotiated a deal with B/E Aerospace / Rockwell Collins.

I’m fairly sure the break with Zodiac means AA is on its own getting the privacy screens and “motion over the ocean” issue repaired. The latter will undoubtedly require significant engineering, submission to the FAA for approval and an STC to implement.

pmd5700

I'm getting ready to book a flight from DFW to OGG on a 772. It's showing as 10 "J" rows. My chances of B/E are decent but I know I could still get Zodiac seats. Given that, what would you all recommend given the available options? It's for our honeymoon so I would probably want D & H. I think Rows 1 and 8 would be rear facing if Zodiac, correct?

dc10forlife

Does anyone know the answer to the question as to whether the new row 17 mce is equivalent to the old row 13 mce? I am hoping the answer is "yes".

shimps1

D&H will be ok, but your heads are pretty far apart, considering that the seats are feet-in, meaning your heads are close to the aisle. I would select consecutive windows personally. such as 2A and 3A. Will be hard to talk, but I don't think you'd really get a benefit from the middle seats either.