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JDiver Jan 22, 2016 4:33 pm

ARCHIVE: Which 777-200ER / "772"? J, MCE, PEY, 45J to 37J
 
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NOTE: Which Business seats a particular aircraft has is fairly opaque on aa.com’s seat charts.

If the available (blue) seats have a notch in the front signifying aft (backward) facing seats, it’s a Zodiac “Concept D” Business Suite equipped aircraft.

If the available (blue) seats have NO notch in the front on any seat (are perfectly square, as they all face forward at an angle), it’s a B/E Aerospace Super Diamond Solo equipped aircraft.

Sequentially below:

Zodiac 37 J aircraft cabin.

Zodiac 45 J Business cabin (truncated view; being refitted to 37 J)

Super Diamond 37 J Business cabin

airb330 Dec 29, 2016 8:55 am

Which 777-200ER / "772"? J, MCE refits done. PEY, 45J to 37J under way.
 
^ Thanks for the update!

Looks like my flight to EZE will be on an aircraft with the superdiamond.

I originally picked 1H and 1L assuming the Concept D seats, for the movement issues and the (limited) ability to face my husband versus a stranger.

Should we just move into row 2D/2H? Or go with 1L and 2L? Limited information on the superdiamond, but it seems it's difficult to talk to anyone directly? Even in Envoy (Cirrus) a window, and aisle seat could talk relatively OK.

Flight looks empty so perhaps it won't matter much anyways. Any help is appreciated.

econometrics Dec 29, 2016 9:02 am


Originally Posted by airb330 (Post 27676187)
^ Thanks for the update!

Looks like my flight to EZE will be on an aircraft with the superdiamond.

I originally picked 1H and 1L assuming the Concept D seats, for the movement issues and the (limited) ability to face my husband versus a stranger.

Should we just move into row 2D/2H? Or go with 1L and 2L? Limited information on the superdiamond, but it seems it's difficult to talk to anyone directly? Even in Envoy (Cirrus) a window, and aisle seat could talk relatively OK.

Flight looks empty so perhaps it won't matter much anyways. Any help is appreciated.

I haven't been on the SD seat yet, but from the pictures, it looks like it's very easy to talk to the person next to you in the center seats. ...which is frustrating for solo travelers since the privacy on these seats is very weak for center seats.

And I would definitely move back from the galley into row 2/3.

mcgahat Dec 31, 2016 12:25 pm

I have a couple of questions about my upcoming flight, I am sure they are elementary to the experts on this thread so thanks in advance for the help.

I am on 281 on January 1 from DFW-ICN. It appears to be N753AN https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n753an

1. According to the Wiki, it shows this as the super diamond seats and forward facing but the seat map shows a forward/rear facing config. Is that just a quirk in the seat maps or is is really forward/rear facing?

2. Anyone have experience with internet on the newly configured aircraft? Performance and cost info?

Thanks and appreciate all the good info in this thread, not sure how you guys keep up on all this stuff.

akcae Dec 31, 2016 3:42 pm


Originally Posted by mcgahat (Post 27685193)
I have a couple of questions about my upcoming flight, I am sure they are elementary to the experts on this thread so thanks in advance for the help.

I am on 281 on January 1 from DFW-ICN. It appears to be N753AN https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n753an

1. According to the Wiki, it shows this as the super diamond seats and forward facing but the seat map shows a forward/rear facing config. Is that just a quirk in the seat maps or is is really forward/rear facing?

2. Anyone have experience with internet on the newly configured aircraft? Performance and cost info?

Thanks and appreciate all the good info in this thread, not sure how you guys keep up on all this stuff.

The seat map shown on AA.com should be the final arbiter on what the aircraft is. I would go with what AA shows over what Flight Radar has.

Djokison Jan 1, 2017 11:25 am


Originally Posted by mcgahat (Post 27685193)
I have a couple of questions about my upcoming flight, I am sure they are elementary to the experts on this thread so thanks in advance for the help.

I am on 281 on January 1 from DFW-ICN. It appears to be N753AN https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n753an

1. According to the Wiki, it shows this as the super diamond seats and forward facing but the seat map shows a forward/rear facing config. Is that just a quirk in the seat maps or is is really forward/rear facing?

2. Anyone have experience with internet on the newly configured aircraft? Performance and cost info?

Thanks and appreciate all the good info in this thread, not sure how you guys keep up on all this stuff.

The BE configured planes show a forward/rear facing seats as if it's the Zodiac version on the seatmaps.

Smiley90 Jan 1, 2017 1:03 pm

Having flown the Refurb&77W back to back... I actually liked the Refurb better. Call me crazy.

More privacy in the reverse. the only downside is that the screen is further away.

mcgahat Jan 1, 2017 2:30 pm

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Originally Posted by Djokison (Post 27688743)
The BE configured planes show a forward/rear facing seats as if it's the Zodiac version on the seatmaps.

Yes, I am on the plane now and it is definitely forward facing even though it shows rear facing seats on the seat map. I like the setup with the exception of two things. First, the tray table even when pulled all the way forward is too high to work from comfortably. Second, it doesnt appear that you can move the seat forward independently without reclining the seat back or raising the leg rest. I like to sit mostly upright and use the stationary foot rest but cant find any way of getting it to that position. The seat is very comfortable from a cushion perspective though so when I get ready to take a nap I am sure it will be great. Internet is $19 by Panasonic and it kind of sucks, basic browsing only.

econometrics Jan 1, 2017 3:21 pm


Originally Posted by Smiley90 (Post 27689089)
Having flown the Refurb&77W back to back... I actually liked the Refurb better. Call me crazy.

More privacy in the reverse. the only downside is that the screen is further away.

I flew the 772 Zodiac a lot this summer and came to the same conclusion.

But then I had a few 77W flights this fall and changed my mind. 77W is my preferred.

I do like flying backwards, though. I seem to sleep better in the reverse seats, for some reason. :confused:

econometrics Jan 1, 2017 3:22 pm


Originally Posted by mcgahat (Post 27689415)
Yes, I am on the plane now and it is definitely forward facing even though it shows rear facing seats on the seat map. I like the setup with the exception of two things. First, the tray table even when pulled all the way forward is too high to work from comfortably. Second, it doesnt appear that you can move the seat forward independently without reclining the seat back or raising the leg rest. I like to sit mostly upright and use the stationary foot rest but cant find any way of getting it to that position. The seat is very comfortable from a cushion perspective though so when I get ready to take a nap I am sure it will be great. Internet is $19 by Panasonic and it kind of sucks, basic browsing only.

Thanks for the pics! Hope you had a comfortable flight.

Were you in a center seat? Let us know what you thought about the privacy (or presumptive lack thereof) when you have a chance.

socalterp Jan 1, 2017 6:12 pm


Originally Posted by mcgahat (Post 27689415)
Yes, I am on the plane now and it is definitely forward facing even though it shows rear facing seats on the seat map. I like the setup with the exception of two things. First, the tray table even when pulled all the way forward is too high to work from comfortably. Second, it doesnt appear that you can move the seat forward independently without reclining the seat back or raising the leg rest. I like to sit mostly upright and use the stationary foot rest but cant find any way of getting it to that position. The seat is very comfortable from a cushion perspective though so when I get ready to take a nap I am sure it will be great. Internet is $19 by Panasonic and it kind of sucks, basic browsing only.

We flew DFW-NRT on 61 on 12/18, and it was a refurb cabin that was definitely all forward facing. Hard product is great. Terrific AVOD system with the huge screen and really good picture quality, and tons of selection. Overall, liked the seats themselves a lot.

Also did find that it was hard to reach the footrest without reclining. There was no fwd/back adjustment like there is on the CX seat, for example. And because the screen is stationary and does't flip out like the CX version, it creates a fully enclosed cubby for your feet when in bed position.

Even though our flight came about because of a missed connection to JL11 the prior day, had a really good overall experience. Meals were decent, very good crew and a great hard product.

nyc6035 Jan 4, 2017 4:28 am

N793AN returned to the active fleet on Jan 4 while N775AN made its way to HKG bringing the refurb completion rate to 60%.

Infinite1K Jan 4, 2017 11:14 am

The seats are generally fine. However not being able to completely tuck away the table was bothersome.

hamburgler Jan 4, 2017 7:40 pm

Am on N765AN now and can sadly note that it is a Concept D 37J bird, not the BE seats... thankfully 7L is a great seat in either config but really missing the storage of the BE seats.

airb330 Jan 5, 2017 5:11 am


Originally Posted by econometrics (Post 27689626)
Thanks for the pics! Hope you had a comfortable flight.

Were you in a center seat? Let us know what you thought about the privacy (or presumptive lack thereof) when you have a chance.

Flew this last week. It was private enough but strange they didn't put in a divider. My husband kept saying "no they wouldn't be that stupid" but relented they indeed were. He loved the seat, I thought it was nice. A little tight getting in/out but the TV and seat comfort were great. Also a great crew MIA-EZE.


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