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AAdvantage Elite Status EXP / Exec. Platinum Challenge/Exception (Executive Platinum
#91
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: ORD
Posts: 654
I'm tempted to call now in case the offer goes away, but definitely would not want to start the challenge until Feb. 2013 expiration is assured.
Is it OK to call now, tell them I won't start the challenge until late June, and get that assurance?
And does "start the challenge" mean take the first trip, or make the first booking?
Thanks......
Is it OK to call now, tell them I won't start the challenge until late June, and get that assurance?
And does "start the challenge" mean take the first trip, or make the first booking?
Thanks......
#92
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: SJC
Programs: AA EXP, BA Silver, Hyatt Globalist, Hilton diamond, Marriott Platinum
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#93
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: SFO
Programs: AC SE, AA EXP MM, UA Gold MM, Hyatt Glob, Marriott Titanium, HH Dia, IHG Plat
Posts: 4,777
My understanding is that completing the challenge only grants you EXP until the end of THIS status year, Feb 29, 2012. If you complete the challenge and in turn complete the regular requirements for EXP before the end of this calendar year, you would have EXP until Feb 28 2013.
#94
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: ORD
Posts: 654
I am not "against" this offer, and I said MY understanding of it, which differs from your understanding. If you can prove without question that your stance is correct, I will happily delete my post.
#95
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Chicago, IL (30 miles North)
Programs: UA - 1k, AA - Platinum, Marriott - Platinum, SPG - Gold,
Posts: 125
There is a Gold (as well as a Plat) challenge. I believe the Plat challenge costs $200 upfront and you have to earn 10K EQPs in the 90-day period, whereas, the Gold requires 5K EQPs.
I'm wondering how many UA 1Ks and DL Diamonds would take them up on this offer since the 25K EQMs would basically require them to fly in coach for that qualification period if they don't purchase e500's (at $30 a pop) or an outright first/business class fare. Then there's the fees and taxes ($500 +) to book an AAward on BA in business or first (Y is about $100 cheaper). Now that's an incentive to rack up them miles!!
I'm wondering how many UA 1Ks and DL Diamonds would take them up on this offer since the 25K EQMs would basically require them to fly in coach for that qualification period if they don't purchase e500's (at $30 a pop) or an outright first/business class fare. Then there's the fees and taxes ($500 +) to book an AAward on BA in business or first (Y is about $100 cheaper). Now that's an incentive to rack up them miles!!
#96
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: ORF
Posts: 1,740
Contacted AA and was essentially told there is no such thing as an Exec Plat Challenge or exception. From there, the agent read the same script as outlined above. Not sure who or who anyone could come from UA as a 1k and get EP status unless you're a CEO or paying top dollar for tickets.
#97
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Up in the Air OR Down to Earth ;)
Programs: XP AA, ◊ HGP, PL SPG, 1K UA
Posts: 1,369
If a conference call would be too awkward, I sugget that you speak to Executive Office yourself. It is only by taking responsibility for what you claim to know, can you actually find out if you are rigt or wrong. Of course it will also take a bit of humilty and honesty to admit that you are not correct. In the meanwhile, defer your judgement to actually those who have received some credible (albeit unconfirmed as everything about this program is unpublished) info. That would be a respectful thing to do.
#98
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Chicago, IL (30 miles North)
Programs: UA - 1k, AA - Platinum, Marriott - Platinum, SPG - Gold,
Posts: 125
yes...multiple times.
#99
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Texas
Programs: AA EXP, UA Premier Plat, Alaska MVP Gold, HHonors Diamond, SPG Platinum, Hyatt Platinum
Posts: 2,053
This would seem to be designed for those who purchase first/business class fares. In that case, you're talking about 16,667 miles, close to the range for a single round trip from DFW to SYD, NRT, DEL, or a trip a month from DFW to LHR and back, etc. Not a whole lot of volume, just money spent on business class fares.
FWIW, my employer authorizes business class for anything over a 10 hour flight. Were I commuting to London each month (or, like a friend, Shanghai every other month for several weeks), I'd easily hit that.
#100
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Los Angeles & Orange County, CA
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EXP challenge is still by invitation only and only given on a case by case basis. As I explained in the thread I started over at UA 5 months ago, you will need to contact AA CS (or if you have a contact elsewhere ) and provide them with whatever information you think that will help your case and have CS forward your information to AA Executive Offices. Only AA Executive Offices can enroll you in the EXP challenge.
There have been a few UA 1Ks and GSs stating that they have been invited to complete the EXP challenge, but my sourse at AA Executive Offices indicated that AA is still looking at each request independently and not every 1K or GS will be invited. The OP basically invited himself to the Executive Offices (but hey, whatever works, right? ) but just note that CS may refuse to transfer you.
Also, I can confirm that challengers will indeed receive 8 eVIPS at the completion of the challenge. However, as far as I know, the EXP status is only valid until Feb 2012, unless challengers have more than 100K EQP/EQM for this calendar year. AA could have a different time frame for challenges starting later this year, but I am unable to confirm that with my source.
There have been a few UA 1Ks and GSs stating that they have been invited to complete the EXP challenge, but my sourse at AA Executive Offices indicated that AA is still looking at each request independently and not every 1K or GS will be invited. The OP basically invited himself to the Executive Offices (but hey, whatever works, right? ) but just note that CS may refuse to transfer you.
Also, I can confirm that challengers will indeed receive 8 eVIPS at the completion of the challenge. However, as far as I know, the EXP status is only valid until Feb 2012, unless challengers have more than 100K EQP/EQM for this calendar year. AA could have a different time frame for challenges starting later this year, but I am unable to confirm that with my source.
A friend contacted AAdvantage CS re EXP challenge. In response, they told him how much they value his loyalty and that the fastest way to EXP is by purchasing premium fares.
So, it looks like you do have to be top-tier elite at another carrier to be offered the challenge.
So, it looks like you do have to be top-tier elite at another carrier to be offered the challenge.
Contacted AA and was essentially told there is no such thing as an Exec Plat Challenge or exception. From there, the agent read the same script as outlined above. Not sure who or who anyone could come from UA as a 1k and get EP status unless you're a CEO or paying top dollar for tickets.
#101
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: San Diego,CA
Posts: 536
If your signature is correct , there is another big caveat to the exception program. That is one must NOT have or had any elite status on AA for 2010 or 2011. If that fits your scenario then indeed the agents you are speaking to are absolutely correct in telling you there is no challenge to EXP.
#102
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: SJC
Programs: AA EXP, BA Silver, Hyatt Globalist, Hilton diamond, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 33,535
Cheers.
Last edited by brp; Mar 4, 2011 at 2:04 pm Reason: Fixed based on post below. It is 2011 at present after all...
#103
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Texas
Programs: AA EXP, UA Premier Plat, Alaska MVP Gold, HHonors Diamond, SPG Platinum, Hyatt Platinum
Posts: 2,053
One would HOPE that the SWU's are only issued at the time of obtaining EXP, once. When you crossed the "real" threshold it wouldn't matter since you were already EXP. One hopes.
#104
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Austin, TX
Programs: AA LT Plat, UA 1k/1mm+, National EE, IC Plat, Bonvoy Gold
Posts: 2,605
CheerfulFlyer doesn't believe that my convo with the agent should be considered confirmation, but that only depositing SWUs accordingly would be. I, for my part, have no reason to believe that the supervisor I spoke with was in the least bit of doubt about the program and its policies.
#105
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Austin, TX
Programs: AA LT Plat, UA 1k/1mm+, National EE, IC Plat, Bonvoy Gold
Posts: 2,605