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AAdvantage Elite Status EXP / Exec. Platinum Challenge/Exception (Executive Platinum
Mar 3, 2011, 5:30 am
#61
Join Date: Dec 2010
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Why do you keep saying it is unconfirmed. I spoke with an AAdvantage Customer Service Supervisor yesterday and she CONFIRMED for me over the phone that those completing the challenge will receive 8 SWUs and those further completing 100k EQMs/EQPs or 100 Segs will ALSO receive another 8 SWUs upon completion of that milestone (as long as it is done in 2011). What else do you need to consider this confirmed?
Ok, sounds like good solid info to me. Can you please give me the phone number, by private email if necessary, so I can talk to them? This deal is too good to miss out on and very doable (ExPlat challenge and ExPlat for real) with my flight schedule through end 2011.
Thanks in advance,
Greg
Mar 3, 2011, 5:40 am
#62
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: ORF
Posts: 1,740
My gripe is that those flying the challenge have the ability to earn as many as 16 SWUs this year while those of us who are already EXP can only earn 8. And that's on the heels of not getting Elite Rewards this year.
AA is making it clear that bringing in new EXPs is more important than providing an even playing field.
And it goes without saying that if AA is trying to attract high value fliers from other programs, why do these fliers need 16 SWUs to begin with?
As I have mentioned previously, I called an AA CS Supervisor and let her know of my displeasure with this new program and specifically the EQP requirement (low IMO) and the SWU issue.
I am all in favor of bringing high value fliers to the daark side. But offering 16 SWUs for meeting the challenge and making EXP will attract many fliers that are the exact opposite of the ones they want...discount economy buyers willing to run for mileage.
I have done my part by speaking to A yesterday. Have you?
AA is making it clear that bringing in new EXPs is more important than providing an even playing field.
And it goes without saying that if AA is trying to attract high value fliers from other programs, why do these fliers need 16 SWUs to begin with?
As I have mentioned previously, I called an AA CS Supervisor and let her know of my displeasure with this new program and specifically the EQP requirement (low IMO) and the SWU issue.
I am all in favor of bringing high value fliers to the daark side. But offering 16 SWUs for meeting the challenge and making EXP will attract many fliers that are the exact opposite of the ones they want...discount economy buyers willing to run for mileage.
I have done my part by speaking to A yesterday. Have you?
I do agree that 16 SWU's would be unfair to existing elites. I am still not sure that is gonna happen, and I will let you know when I cross 100k.
Mar 3, 2011, 5:48 am
#63
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 39
My gripe is that those flying the challenge have the ability to earn as many as 16 SWUs this year while those of us who are already EXP can only earn 8. And that's on the heels of not getting Elite Rewards this year.
AA is making it clear that bringing in new EXPs is more important than providing an even playing field.
And it goes without saying that if AA is trying to attract high value fliers from other programs, why do these fliers need 16 SWUs to begin with?
As I have mentioned previously, I called an AA CS Supervisor and let her know of my displeasure with this new program and specifically the EQP requirement (low IMO) and the SWU issue.
I am all in favor of bringing high value fliers to the daark side. But offering 16 SWUs for meeting the challenge and making EXP will attract many fliers that are the exact opposite of the ones they want...discount economy buyers willing to run for mileage.
I have done my part by speaking to A yesterday. Have you?
AA is making it clear that bringing in new EXPs is more important than providing an even playing field.
And it goes without saying that if AA is trying to attract high value fliers from other programs, why do these fliers need 16 SWUs to begin with?
As I have mentioned previously, I called an AA CS Supervisor and let her know of my displeasure with this new program and specifically the EQP requirement (low IMO) and the SWU issue.
I am all in favor of bringing high value fliers to the daark side. But offering 16 SWUs for meeting the challenge and making EXP will attract many fliers that are the exact opposite of the ones they want...discount economy buyers willing to run for mileage.
I have done my part by speaking to A yesterday. Have you?
Is there any way as a NB but future ExPlat to earn more than 8 SWUs a year. What happens beyond 100k EQMs/EQPs per year? Do you get another 8 SWUs at say 200k and another 8 at 300k, etc?
Thanks for the info so far, looks like I have a bit to learn about the AA ExPlat and beyond program.
Greg
Mar 3, 2011, 5:56 am
#64
Join Date: Aug 2010
Programs: AAdvantage
Posts: 129
I don't have 16 SWU's and AA won't give me a PLT Challenge for free.
There, I griped.
There, I griped.
Mar 3, 2011, 8:27 am
#65
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 170
My gripe is that those flying the challenge have the ability to earn as many as 16 SWUs this year while those of us who are already EXP can only earn 8. And that's on the heels of not getting Elite Rewards this year.
AA is making it clear that bringing in new EXPs is more important than providing an even playing field.
And it goes without saying that if AA is trying to attract high value fliers from other programs, why do these fliers need 16 SWUs to begin with?
As I have mentioned previously, I called an AA CS Supervisor and let her know of my displeasure with this new program and specifically the EQP requirement (low IMO) and the SWU issue.
I am all in favor of bringing high value fliers to the daark side. But offering 16 SWUs for meeting the challenge and making EXP will attract many fliers that are the exact opposite of the ones they want...discount economy buyers willing to run for mileage.
I have done my part by speaking to A yesterday. Have you?
AA is making it clear that bringing in new EXPs is more important than providing an even playing field.
And it goes without saying that if AA is trying to attract high value fliers from other programs, why do these fliers need 16 SWUs to begin with?
As I have mentioned previously, I called an AA CS Supervisor and let her know of my displeasure with this new program and specifically the EQP requirement (low IMO) and the SWU issue.
I am all in favor of bringing high value fliers to the daark side. But offering 16 SWUs for meeting the challenge and making EXP will attract many fliers that are the exact opposite of the ones they want...discount economy buyers willing to run for mileage.
I have done my part by speaking to A yesterday. Have you?
Mar 3, 2011, 9:08 am
#66
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Mar 3, 2011, 9:18 am
#67
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Why do you keep saying it is unconfirmed. I spoke with an AAdvantage Customer Service Supervisor yesterday and she CONFIRMED for me over the phone that those completing the challenge will receive 8 SWUs and those further completing 100k EQMs/EQPs or 100 Segs will ALSO receive another 8 SWUs upon completion of that milestone (as long as it is done in 2011). What else do you need to consider this confirmed?
Cheers.
Mar 3, 2011, 9:22 am
#68
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: New York City
Programs: American Airlines EXP 1.99 MM, Marriott Plat Premier, HH Diamond, IHG Plat Ambassador, UA 1K
Posts: 231
Cheerful, or not so much?
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In response to those losing ability to use current swus, that's unfortunately one of the risks that one takes when switching carriers. I have no problem with the challenge- my problem lies solely in the fact that EXP challenge qualifiers will receive SWUs for doing so. I would not expect any other carrier to grant me full benefits (including swus) simply due to completion of a challenge. Others have actually met the requirements by normal means and should reap the benefits of doing so.
In response to those losing ability to use current swus, that's unfortunately one of the risks that one takes when switching carriers. I have no problem with the challenge- my problem lies solely in the fact that EXP challenge qualifiers will receive SWUs for doing so. I would not expect any other carrier to grant me full benefits (including swus) simply due to completion of a challenge. Others have actually met the requirements by normal means and should reap the benefits of doing so.
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Mar 3, 2011, 9:33 am
#69
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Austin, TX
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As I noted in the other thread, you have to provide proof of status, and then go through an approval process to even be eligible, so I don't think it's really a bunch of discount economy buyers flooding the program.
I do agree that 16 SWU's would be unfair to existing elites. I am still not sure that is gonna happen, and I will let you know when I cross 100k.
I do agree that 16 SWU's would be unfair to existing elites. I am still not sure that is gonna happen, and I will let you know when I cross 100k.
Mar 3, 2011, 9:36 am
#70
Join Date: Oct 2009
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Hi,
Is there any way as a NB but future ExPlat to earn more than 8 SWUs a year. What happens beyond 100k EQMs/EQPs per year? Do you get another 8 SWUs at say 200k and another 8 at 300k, etc?
Thanks for the info so far, looks like I have a bit to learn about the AA ExPlat and beyond program.
Greg
Is there any way as a NB but future ExPlat to earn more than 8 SWUs a year. What happens beyond 100k EQMs/EQPs per year? Do you get another 8 SWUs at say 200k and another 8 at 300k, etc?
Thanks for the info so far, looks like I have a bit to learn about the AA ExPlat and beyond program.
Greg
Mar 3, 2011, 9:37 am
#71
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: DFW
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There is a Gold (as well as a Plat) challenge. I believe the Plat challenge costs $200 upfront and you have to earn 10K EQPs in the 90-day period, whereas, the Gold requires 5K EQPs.
I'm wondering how many UA 1Ks and DL Diamonds would take them up on this offer since the 25K EQMs would basically require them to fly in coach for that qualification period if they don't purchase e500's (at $30 a pop) or an outright first/business class fare. Then there's the fees and taxes ($500 +) to book an AAward on BA in business or first (Y is about $100 cheaper). Now that's an incentive to rack up them miles!!
I'm wondering how many UA 1Ks and DL Diamonds would take them up on this offer since the 25K EQMs would basically require them to fly in coach for that qualification period if they don't purchase e500's (at $30 a pop) or an outright first/business class fare. Then there's the fees and taxes ($500 +) to book an AAward on BA in business or first (Y is about $100 cheaper). Now that's an incentive to rack up them miles!!
I am currently Gold (last two years almost all personal and not business. I'm back in the business-travel mode, and it looks like I will ultimately make Platinum this year. Is there a way to short-circuit the process with a Challenge? Is it worth doing?
thanks,
Jeff
Mar 3, 2011, 9:39 am
#72
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The emphasis here is on EQPs. High EQMs, in an of themselves, don't help. It's the EQP (and ratio) that seem to matter in this case. Basically, this is one place where higher revenue fliers get some favored treatment relative to the bottom-dweller EXPs qualifying on EQM (myself included ).
Cheers.
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Mar 3, 2011, 9:39 am
#73
Join Date: Oct 2009
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Allow me to give you the other side's point of view. I am DM and have been top tier on Delta for the past five years. Before that, I was EP and I am lifetime AA Platinum. If I switch, I give up three months of unlimited free Delta upgrades while only an AA Platinum and the 12 SWU's I have in my Delta account today and 4 more SWU's I will get as I have already requalified for Delta Platinum next year. Seems to me that AA is just trying to minimize my loss if I switch back to them. Seriously, if they didnt the offer would not be attractive.
And your DL SWUs are nothing like the SWUs that you would get from AA since those are good on ALL fare classes...so no having to buy a higher fareclass only to waste that money if the upgrade request doesn't go through...
Mar 3, 2011, 9:42 am
#74
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I haven't seen quite the same question in this thread, but if anybody knows, I'd appreciate your feedback:
I am currently Gold (last two years almost all personal and not business. I'm back in the business-travel mode, and it looks like I will ultimately make Platinum this year. Is there a way to short-circuit the process with a Challenge? Is it worth doing?
thanks,
Jeff
I am currently Gold (last two years almost all personal and not business. I'm back in the business-travel mode, and it looks like I will ultimately make Platinum this year. Is there a way to short-circuit the process with a Challenge? Is it worth doing?
thanks,
Jeff
Cheers.
Mar 3, 2011, 10:08 am
#75
Join Date: Aug 2010
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Interesting as it is not that easy when flying to and from and around Australia. AA has much better $/SC than Australians flying with Qantas as you have shown. Trust me getting Platinum flying with Qantas and their fair structure is not that easy but your example is VERY interesting.
Just checked and the Qantas web site (AU and US) will not let me book Nyc/Lax rtn or 1 way or the other way even through QF does fly Nyc/Lax. Also the QF points calculator will not show Lax/Nyc SCs.
Syd/Lax/Syd on QF will earn 180 QF SCs and cost $4,185 per deep discount Premium Economy trip. That is 7 trips at $29,295 to get 1,260 SCs and maintain QF Platinum (OW Emerald, AA Exec Platinum). Not cheap.
Thanks for that feedback,
Greg
Just checked and the Qantas web site (AU and US) will not let me book Nyc/Lax rtn or 1 way or the other way even through QF does fly Nyc/Lax. Also the QF points calculator will not show Lax/Nyc SCs.
Syd/Lax/Syd on QF will earn 180 QF SCs and cost $4,185 per deep discount Premium Economy trip. That is 7 trips at $29,295 to get 1,260 SCs and maintain QF Platinum (OW Emerald, AA Exec Platinum). Not cheap.
Thanks for that feedback,
Greg
http://www.qantas.com.au/fflyer/dyn/...rican-airlines
Note: it's not effective to book JFK-LAX, it's more effective to book for JFK-LAS via ORD or DFW (420 SC rt), i.e don't do direct JFK-LAS (240 SC rt).
Easy to achieve the LT status as well. 14000 SC